Aasimar and Tiefling playable races

[Rofaust]

28 point build comparable to drow. Rogueish/assassin type enhancements for tiefling, perhaps an improved invisibility type ability (adapted from darkness and a spell-like ability); and, holy/light based enhancements for Aasimar (maybe new uses for turn undead, increase lvl or times per day). I think the +2dex/+2int/-2cha and the +2wis/+2cha would be far more desirable to builds than the drow's +2dex/-2con/+2int/+2cha at the cost of a 32point build. Racial enhancement points in wis and cha are a niche divine casters have yet to see and would be a step in the direction of reinvigorating the favored soul class.

[Karadon_II]

28 point build comparable to drow. Rogueish/assassin type enhancements for tiefling, perhaps an improved invisibility type ability (adapted from darkness and a spell-like ability); and, holy/light based enhancements for Aasimar (maybe new uses for turn undead, increase lvl or times per day). I think the +2dex/+2int/-2cha and the +2wis/+2cha would be far more desirable to builds than the drow's +2dex/-2con/+2int/+2cha at the cost of a 32point build. Racial enhancement points in wis and cha are a niche divine casters have yet to see and would be a step in the direction of reinvigorating the favored soul class.

I think an Aasimar Favored Soul would make a fantastic Iconic character to introduce especially for the new Shav content announced. But a lot more people really want Gnomes for some unfathomable reason so they should have their way first.

[FranOhmsford]

Can we please get the Humanoid races before we move into Planetouched, Draconic etc!

Zilargo Gnomes
Svirfneblin {Use 2nd Ed. Stats buffed up to DDO standards!}
Kobolds {Dex 2, Cha 2, Str -2, Wis -2}
Hobgoblins {Str 2, Wis 2, Int -2, Cha -2}
Gnoll: Flinds {Str 2, Dex 2, Int -2, Cha -2}
Sylvan Elves {Proper Sylvan Elves - Don't do a Morninglord on them like you did with Grey Elves Devs!}
Mountain Dwarves {Wis 2, Con 2, Dex -2, Cha -2}
Kalashtar {With Psionics added!}

With H-Orc already in game Orc doesn't really have a place.
Minotaur would be insanely OP!
BUT
I'd take both long before Aasimar or Tiefling or Shifter or Dragontouched et al!

[vfreeze_31]

This all sounds great to me. I live the variety and diversity available in DDO and adding more classes and races all help to enhance the experience of the game.

Personally, I think the +2dex/+2int/-2cha stats would help greatly for a ranged Artificer, maybe mixed with a bit of Ranger.

[Braegan]

I think by now I should just have a Vote Yes to Aasimar sign made up. :)

[Powerhungry]

Personally I would rather see dev time spent fixing bugs, lag and rework Cannith crafting before they add more races.

[Zachski]

Can we please get the Humanoid races before we move into Planetouched, Draconic etc!

Zilargo Gnomes
Svirfneblin {Use 2nd Ed. Stats buffed up to DDO standards!}
Kobolds {Dex 2, Cha 2, Str -2, Wis -2}
Hobgoblins {Str 2, Wis 2, Int -2, Cha -2}
Gnoll: Flinds {Str 2, Dex 2, Int -2, Cha -2}
Sylvan Elves {Proper Sylvan Elves - Don't do a Morninglord on them like you did with Grey Elves Devs!}
Mountain Dwarves {Wis 2, Con 2, Dex -2, Cha -2}
Kalashtar {With Psionics added!}

With H-Orc already in game Orc doesn't really have a place.
Minotaur would be insanely OP!
BUT
I'd take both long before Aasimar or Tiefling or Shifter or Dragontouched et al!

Aasimar are a core race in Eberron, like Artificer is a core class.

[SirValentine]

With H-Orc already in game Orc doesn't really have a place.
Minotaur would be insanely OP!
BUT
I'd take both long before Aasimar or Tiefling or Shifter or Dragontouched et al!


What do you have against Shifter? It's a core Eberron player character race, and, with Gnome, belongs way higher on the list than all those monster-race monstrosities.

Since all the low-level content is Eberron, any "basic" race needs to fit Eberron lore. Things you're more likely to find in Forgotten Realms, or beyond, should probably be introduced as Iconics. Can't say I'd hate having a +Wisdom race Iconic around, be it Aasimar or what have you.

[SirValentine]

Aasimar are a core race in Eberron, like Artificer is a core class.

I'm looking at the Eberron Campaign Setting book, and it says basic Player Handbook races (we have all but Gnome), plus these 4: Warforged (got it), Shifter, Changling, and Kalashtar. No mention of Aasimar.

[salmag]

Gnomes, Kalashtar, and Shifters are core races in Eberron, like Artificer is a core class. Aasimars are not a core race in Eberron

Fixed it for you.

[FranOhmsford]

What do you have against Shifter? It's a core Eberron player character race, and, with Gnome, belongs way higher on the list than all those monster-race monstrosities.

Since all the low-level content is Eberron, any "basic" race needs to fit Eberron lore. Things you're more likely to find in Forgotten Realms, or beyond, should probably be introduced as Iconics. Can't say I'd hate having a +Wisdom race Iconic around, be it Aasimar or what have you.

I've explained my hatred of Changelings, Shifters, Doppelgangers and Lycanthropes many times!

They are NOT Player Races no matter what WotC says!


Kobolds, Hobgoblins, Gnolls and Orcs fit Eberron Lore just fine - These races are all more civilized in Eberron than in any other setting!

Kalashtar are of course an Eberron specific race AND the easiest to bring in to DDO as they're little more than Humans in looks {Just requires Psionicist to be added at the same time!}.

Zilargo Gnomes = Eberron Gnomes!

Sylvan Elves, Mountain Dwarves and Svirfneblin are all FR specific in DDO but available in all Worlds except Athas!



EDIT: Oh and Minotaurs in Eberron are much closer to Minotaurs on Krynn than the Savage Monsters of Oerth or Toril!

[JOTMON]

I would like to see Aasimar and Tiefling as race options.
They both have interesting lineages..

and with all these shape shifting Dragons around you would think there would be more of those dragonborn/blooded.

Iconic's could be greatly expanded with blood linages of elves, dwarves druger, and a multitude of more variants...

[FranOhmsford]

and with all these shape shifting Dragons around you would think there would be more of those dragonborn/blooded.

Not likely as the Dragons of Argonnessen are highly prejudiced against cross-breeding with the Lesser Races!

[fmalfeas]

Aasimar are a core race in Eberron, like Artificer is a core class.

No, Aasimar are core in Forgotten Realms, as per the Forgotten Realms Players Handbook 3.5, along with Genasi. /However/ they are recommended to be limited by region. Some parts of Faerun have lots of them, some have nearly none. Just like how in Rasheman, Hagspawn are a normal (if disliked) thing to see, along with Grey Orcs (a +wis race, btw). Yet on Evermeet, only Sun, Moon, Green, Star, and Wild elves would be considered 'core' and anything else besides Seldarine and Eladrin would be...well, probably a very, very high level invader to even get there. And very, very short lived, once the Queen or the Tower of the High Magi noticed them...and if they actually injured the queen, all bets are off. Bad, bad news.

Aasimar are most common in the Damaran region, most especially Tantras. Tieflings...they're fairly widespread, but places like Thay and Zhentil Keep tend to have more of them. Genasi show up most often down around Calimshan.

Svirfneblin pretty much never leave the Underdark, much like the Deep Imaskari, Derro, and Orogs. (In the case of the Derro, that's much to the relief of everyone who's aware of them.)

[ToastyFred]

Can we please get the Humanoid races before we move into Planetouched, Draconic etc!

Zilargo Gnomes - NO!
Svirfneblin - NO!
Kobolds - Maybe
Hobgoblins - NO!
Gnoll: Flinds - NO!!
Sylvan Elves - NO
Mountain Dwarves - NO
Kalashtar YES!

Comments



I would like to see Aasimar and Tiefling as race options.
They both have interesting lineages..
YES!!

[Wonedream]

I like new races.. new options. So I wouldnt be opposed to this at all :D

[JOTMON]

No, Aasimar are core in Forgotten Realms, as per the Forgotten Realms Players Handbook 3.5, along with Genasi. /However/ they are recommended to be limited by region. Some parts of Faerun have lots of them, some have nearly none. Just like how in Rasheman, Hagspawn are a normal (if disliked) thing to see, along with Grey Orcs (a +wis race, btw). Yet on Evermeet, only Sun, Moon, Green, Star, and Wild elves would be considered 'core' and anything else besides Seldarine and Eladrin would be...well, probably a very, very high level invader to even get there. And very, very short lived, once the Queen or the Tower of the High Magi noticed them...and if they actually injured the queen, all bets are off. Bad, bad news.

Aasimar are most common in the Damaran region, most especially Tantras. Tieflings...they're fairly widespread, but places like Thay and Zhentil Keep tend to have more of them. Genasi show up most often down around Calimshan.

Svirfneblin pretty much never leave the Underdark, much like the Deep Imaskari, Derro, and Orogs. (In the case of the Derro, that's much to the relief of everyone who's aware of them.)

In Eberron the Aasimar were recognized as Deva's

Saw this interesting read from the pathfinder variant of DnD..

With the nature of the cosmos what it is, individuals whose blood and souls are marked by planar essence are not as uncommon as might otherwise be the case. Microcosmic manifest zones are strewn through-out the world, too tiny to noticeably affect the flow of the material plane but just big enough for the warping influence of the outside planes to affect those nearby. The presence of great planar evils sealed up beneath one's feet can warp and twist reality, causing mutations and transformations that would normally be "impossible." And of course, it is far easier for inter-planar travel to take place in Eberron than in other worlds – simply find one of the many permanent links between two planes, or wait until a plane becomes coterminous with Eberron once more, and you have a two-way door that allows for near effortless communication of creatures and materials. All of these traits make Eberron a land that is full to the brime with individuals of planar ancestry – humas marked and changed from the womb by exposure to planar power. Known as the planetouched collectively, they are often outsiders in their own right but still human enough to remain among their people.

The most common among the planetouched are the aasimars and the tieflings. These beings of inherent goodness and evil, respectively, are distantly descended from the coupling of a celestial or fiend and a human; the original spawn of such unions are typically half-celestials or half-fiends, but as those individuals continue to breed with common humans the power of that alien blood eventually dilutes into the distant echo that is the aasimar or tiefling. Still, enough of that power remains to very obviously mark the individual and grant him or her wondrous power beyond the ken of mortal men.

[Aelonwy]

Yes to Aasimar. They would end up looking human, maybe with pointy elven-like ears, but would have special eye, skin and hair colors not typical for humans. I'm talking violet, sea-green, gold, white, unusual eye colors, similar hair colors possibly also including a variety of blues and some atypical skin colors for humans like pale green, pale lavender, and pale blue. They should have at least one hair option that has feathers along the hairline, or feathers instead of hair.

Yes to Tiefling. No tails please. Yes to a variety of horns, go ahead and cover them with helms if need be. If I want to see my horns, I'll toggle helms off tyvm. They will need the option to have red glowing eyes. Tieflings can have all the regular human hair/eye/skin colors plus some extra red and black varieties.

[ToastyFred]

Yes to Aasimar. They would end up looking human, maybe with pointy elven-like ears, but would have special eye, skin and hair colors not typical for humans. I'm talking violet, sea-green, gold, white, unusual eye colors, similar hair colors possibly also including a variety of blues and some atypical skin colors for humans like pale green, pale lavender, and pale blue. They should have at least one hair option that has feathers along the hairline, or feathers instead of hair.

Yes to Tiefling. No tails please. Yes to a variety of horns, go ahead and cover them with helms if need be. If I want to see my horns, I'll toggle helms off tyvm. They will need the option to have red glowing eyes. Tieflings can have all the regular human hair/eye/skin colors plus some extra red and black varieties.

Good stuff.

[Ialzret]

28 point build comparable to drow. Rogueish/assassin type enhancements for tiefling, perhaps an improved invisibility type ability (adapted from darkness and a spell-like ability); and, holy/light based enhancements for Aasimar (maybe new uses for turn undead, increase lvl or times per day). I think the +2dex/+2int/-2cha and the +2wis/+2cha would be far more desirable to builds than the drow's +2dex/-2con/+2int/+2cha at the cost of a 32point build. Racial enhancement points in wis and cha are a niche divine casters have yet to see and would be a step in the direction of reinvigorating the favored soul class.









So Tieflings are my personal favorite d&d race when I first came into the ddo comunity i was very dissapointed with the reaces making me not play for several years my faily members played without me and I felt left out, then the Dragonborn got reeleased and with my money i got the race and love it so if they add a tiefling to ddo i dont think I would ever stop playing. I do think they should make an ability to make him do more damage when enemies are below a certain amount of hit points I know this IS OP but it shouldnt have to be a thing. but the tiefling appearance should give a hellish vibe not a rogueish vibe it shoould have good stats in couple of things but sense the tiefling in d&d people think they cant trust them so their charisma will be quit **** but i do think their best classes will be sorcerer, wizard, rogue, if the damage boost is a thing then barbs, and fighters.

[Ialzret]

Yes to Aasimar. They would end up looking human, maybe with pointy elven-like ears, but would have special eye, skin and hair colors not typical for humans. I'm talking violet, sea-green, gold, white, unusual eye colors, similar hair colors possibly also including a variety of blues and some atypical skin colors for humans like pale green, pale lavender, and pale blue. They should have at least one hair option that has feathers along the hairline, or feathers instead of hair.

Yes to Tiefling. No tails please. Yes to a variety of horns, go ahead and cover them with helms if need be. If I want to see my horns, I'll toggle helms off tyvm. They will need the option to have red glowing eyes. Tieflings can have all the regular human hair/eye/skin colors plus some extra red and black varieties.









you ruin the tiefling if you remove the tails glowing eyes well hell yeah horns well of course but the tails need to be a thing maybe the could use the tail for an ability maybe

[Igrovin]

you ruin the tiefling if you remove the tails glowing eyes well hell yeah horns well of course but the tails need to be a thing maybe the could use the tail for an ability maybe

I'd rather the tail be an option. I don't like 4e and onward's versions of Tieflings looking like Hellboy characters.

My 3.5 tieflings would usually have goat like legs, and sometimes a tail and little horns, looking something like a satyr or somesuch.

[Aelonwy]

you ruin the tiefling if you remove the tails glowing eyes well hell yeah horns well of course but the tails need to be a thing maybe the could use the tail for an ability maybe

There are no enemy tieflings that we fight in the game (DDO) with tails, ergo PC tieflings with tails isn't necessary. Also my Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting and Races of Faerun books indicate that while a tail is an option for tieflings by no means does every or even most tieflings have a tail.

Options for Tieflings using DDO images and Photoshop:

http://i.imgur.com/kQjSYrG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kEfqmXf.jpg

Options for Aasimar using a combination of DDO images and some feather images and Photoshop:

http://i.imgur.com/9e6ySei.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Jb95ZRd.jpg

[Sunnie]

I'm not a big fan of tieflings, but there's one thing they should have that would make me warm up to them: The Orthon Dance.

[FranOhmsford]

Tiefling
http://oi59.tinypic.com/waq1k6.jpg

Not the Tiefling
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x4NpNTZAEuU/maxresdefault.jpg

[Steve_Howe]

That Neverwinter Tiefling looks just awful.

[Igrovin]

Its a product of the 4e graphic update of tiefling where they all look like low level buffy the vampire demons.