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Cordovan
01-13-2015, 03:41 PM
UPDATE: The worlds have reopened! Thank you for your patience, and we will see you in the game!

The DDO Game Servers will be brought down on Wednesday, January 14th from 9:00 AM - 12:00 PM Eastern (-5 GMT) for an update to the game. Thanks for your patience, and we'll see you back in the game soon! Patch notes will be available during the downtime.

FYI, this is for Update 24 Patch 1. We'll have Release Notes tomorrow, but we can say that the patch will introduce Mysterious Fragments to the game (Monster Champion rewards), in addition to bug fixes and some tweaks to barbarian enhancements.

GoldyGopher
01-13-2015, 03:46 PM
FYI, this is for Update 24 Patch 1. We'll have Release Notes tomorrow, but we can say that the patch will introduce [b]Mysterious Fragments[b] to the game (Monster Champion rewards), in addition to bug fixes and some tweaks to barbarian enhancements.

Just Saying
There better be some great stuff on that list and these Fragments better stack a mile high in a bag.

Impaqt
01-13-2015, 03:48 PM
Just Saying
There better be some great stuff on that list and these Fragments better stack a mile high in a bag.

Or what?

o.O

Loromir
01-13-2015, 03:50 PM
Just Saying
There better be some great stuff on that list and these Fragments better stack a mile high in a bag.

I would be happy with things like Deathward Pots, Mana Pots, GH Pots, rare arcane and divine scrolls. And maybe some new Pots like, FOM pots and True Seeing Pots. Even some Heal Pots, similar to the heal spell would be nice.

Ladywolf
01-13-2015, 03:53 PM
The DDO Game Servers will be brought down on Wednesday, January 14th from 8:00 - 11:00 AM Eastern (-5 GMT) for an update to the game. Thanks for your patience, and we'll see you back in the game soon! Patch notes will be available during the downtime.

FYI, this is for Update 24 Patch 1. We'll have Release Notes tomorrow, but we can say that the patch will introduce Mysterious Fragments to the game (Monster Champion rewards), in addition to bug fixes and some tweaks to barbarian enhancements.

By chance will this also fix the lag that seems to be creeping since server reset...it was back enough for us to have to cancel the rest of our monday night raid night (since half the party was stuck, or stuck in load screen or in cleaning up old connections...)

Livmo
01-13-2015, 03:57 PM
I would be happy with things like Deathward Pots, Mana Pots, GH Pots, rare arcane and divine scrolls. And maybe some new Pots like, FOM pots and True Seeing Pots. Even some Heal Pots, similar to the heal spell would be nice.

Eternal Wand of Bacon with epic level heals like ham that have a level restriction so it can't be used by non-epic toons.

MOAR BACON!

and

MOAR SHARN!

PS or it can be an Eternal Bacon Maple Bar with epic heals similar to heroic ham with a level restriction so heroic toons cannot abuse:

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608030381549948415&pid=15.1&P=0

UurlockYgmeov
01-13-2015, 04:02 PM
Eternal Wand of Bacon with epic level heals like ham that have a level restriction so it can't be used by non-epic toons.

MOAR BACON!

and

MOAR SHARN!

PS or it can be an Eternal Bacon Maple Bar with epic heals similar to heroic ham with a level restriction so heroic toons cannot abuse:

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608030381549948415&pid=15.1&P=0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUnB846aB4I

MOAR BACON!

Gratch
01-13-2015, 04:09 PM
Really hope they fixed the instances sticking around and upping server lag as described by Steelstar.

Also hope they put +1 LR Hearts into a possible reward of Mysterious Fragments. Having to LR+1 many iconic builds really sucks given current heart drop rates and store cost of said hearts.

cherokee83pride
01-13-2015, 04:11 PM
in addition to bug fixes and some tweaks to barbarian enhancements.


What are these so called *Tweaks* going to be????

Iaga
01-13-2015, 04:17 PM
The DDO Game Servers will be brought down on Wednesday, January 14th from 8:00 - 11:00 AM Eastern (-5 GMT) for an update to the game. Thanks for your patience, and we'll see you back in the game soon! Patch notes will be available during the downtime.

FYI, this is for Update 24 Patch 1. We'll have Release Notes tomorrow, but we can say that the patch will introduce Mysterious Fragments to the game (Monster Champion rewards), in addition to bug fixes and some tweaks to barbarian enhancements.I was able to get off the boat in a little under 90 minutes the other day - obviously the lag isn't strong enough and these new features are being introduced to bring the lag to the levels we were all able to enjoy over the holidays.

Livmo
01-13-2015, 04:23 PM
What are these so called *Tweaks* going to be????


We'll have Release Notes tomorrow, but we can say that the patch will introduce Mysterious Fragments to the game (Monster Champion rewards), in addition to bug fixes and some tweaks to barbarian enhancements.

Hopefully they will good changes!

Cordovan
01-13-2015, 04:32 PM
Just a note that we've shifted our downtime out an hour, so the new time is 9:00 AM - 12:00 PM Eastern.

barecm
01-13-2015, 07:20 PM
Hopefully they will good changes!

Which game have you been playing? Tweaks is Dev speak for nerfs that will make you want to TR into something else.... before that gets tweaked. I for one am getting a little fed up with how things are going lately. As soon as something gets fun to play like pally + orb and now a barb (which has never been fun to play btw) they go ahead and ruin it. This is getting too much the norm rather than the exception.

Wait.... unless you play a caster. Those have been way overpowered since forever, but remain untouchable for whatever reason. Frustrating is the only word I can come up with without garnering a forum ban or whatever you get for voicing a contrary opinion.

Faltout
01-13-2015, 07:24 PM
What are these so called *Tweaks* going to be????


Here are the specific changes we are considering:

~ Greater Rage (the level 11 barbarian class feat) gains the following additional effects:
While raging your Melee Power increases by 10.
While raging if you are wearing medium armor your Physical Resist Rating increases by 10.

Ravager
~ Pain Touch should not have a cooldown. We will look into this bug.
~ Mutilate bane damage added to Hate increased to +2d6/4d6/6d6
~ Laughter now adds 10 Melee Power when Slaughter hits (as opposed to only when it crits)

Frenzied Berserker
~ Accelerate Metabolism healing increased to 3d6. It also adds +20 Healing Amplification while raging.

Occult Slayer
~ Fix Mind Over Magic bug when Constitution changes.
~ One Spirit. Now costs 100 Weapon Bond, and heals for base 400 (4 per Bond expended).

Sev~


Our current thinking for Barbarian updates:

* We'll still put in most of the previously proposed changes (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/453511-Barbarians-The-Follow-Up-Thread?p=5510199&viewfull=1#post5510199) (possibly not changing Laughter's melee power boost, for instance).
* Storm's Eye activated stacking bonuses simply start at 25 stacks and fade away over time, functioning somewhat similarly to Divine Crusader's core capstone, Zeal of the Righteous. We'd examine the cooldown of the stacks and the ability itself, with this updated functionality.
* Additionally, we'll look into Visage of Terror to check reports that it stops working after a while. (If you have additional information on this to help narrow down when this happens, that's great!)

There you go.

HastyPudding
01-13-2015, 07:28 PM
What are these so called *Tweaks* going to be????

It was a typo. Cordovan meant to say they're adding 'twinks' to the barbarian enhancements. From now on you have the option to change your manly barbarian into a taut, 18 year old eliminate boy that yells out 'boink' every time he hits a mob in a fabulously awesome way. Also, rainbow capes.





Sorry, we're out of coffee. *rubs eyes*

Calinthus
01-13-2015, 09:41 PM
I would be happy with things like Deathward Pots, Mana Pots, GH Pots, rare arcane and divine scrolls. And maybe some new Pots like, FOM pots and True Seeing Pots. Even some Heal Pots, similar to the heal spell would be nice.

And, I say to that. Please, Mister/Miss/Misses Dev/Producer/Exec., please bring back Mabar. Had the DW pots, Resto pots, and, maybe, you can add something like, Goggles of Midnight- True seeing, ghostly, spot, search, and Bane damage to any undead. Scaled, of course, to match the level tiers.

ImanCarrot
01-14-2015, 04:31 AM
Can you please not make the future downtimes more than 10pm?... I live in the UK and subtracting 5 hours from 12pm resulted in me having to remove my socks 'cos I only have 10 fingers to subtract 5 from 12 :)

96th_Malice
01-14-2015, 08:06 AM
It was a typo. Cordovan meant to say they're adding 'twinks' to the barbarian enhancements. From now on you have the option to change your manly barbarian into a taut, 18 year old eliminate boy that yells out 'boink' every time he hits a mob in a fabulously awesome way. Also, rainbow capes.*

Wholly **** did that make me laugh !!

Erik_Loki
01-14-2015, 08:07 AM
By chance will this also fix the lag that seems to be creeping since server reset...it was back enough for us to have to cancel the rest of our monday night raid night (since half the party was stuck, or stuck in load screen or in cleaning up old connections...)

We've found a method to reenter in game quicly after being stuck in "clean up old connection"... Disconnect ethernet cable for 40-50 seconds (or the wifi) so game kick you out from the server then you 'll reconnect immediately.

The problem that cause to be stuck in "clean up old connection" is that for DDO you are still connected in game and can't connect again. That's all.

Greetins

Marco

cdbd3rd
01-14-2015, 08:14 AM
Can you please not make the future downtimes more than 10pm?... I live in the UK and subtracting 5 hours from 12pm resulted in me having to remove my socks 'cos I only have 10 fingers to subtract 5 from 12 :)

That's why girls have an advantage in math. They don't have to resort to the socks until 13. :p



** ^^ that's just me waiting on the 'notes. ;)

mna
01-14-2015, 08:37 AM
That's why girls have an advantage in math. They don't have to resort to the socks until 13. :p

Oh, just switch to binary and count to 1024 on your fingers.

("There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those who don't.")


Actually, there's also an old merchant's method for counting to 144 on your fingers, it involves using thumbs as pointers to finger joints in base 12.

Kuttamia
01-14-2015, 08:46 AM
I've always wanted a naked halfling, with its hands and legs chained up, following you around as a pet. Can i have it please through fragment trade?

cdbd3rd
01-14-2015, 08:50 AM
I've always wanted a naked halfling, with its hands and legs chained up, following you around as a pet. Can i have it please through fragment trade?

Number 3 on the list of, "Things To NEVER Mention To Your Shrink."

:p

Loromir
01-14-2015, 08:52 AM
OK...guess I will ask since no one else has. Where are the release notes?

Nefatron
01-14-2015, 08:55 AM
I'm really excited about these champion fragments.. This can be a really good thing... or really lame thing

I like the idea about being able to turn in for +1 hearts. Although the turn in rate would be insane.. But for something like that ya'll can hike it up a bit.

As far as turn ins for heroism and deathward pots.. nah im good on that There is already ALOT of places that you can turn in stuff to get them kinds of pots..

Idk though. I been letting my imagination run a bit wild thinking of what possibly could the turn in gives us!

Time will tell..

What's some of your guys thoughts on the turn in rewards?

Alkusoittow
01-14-2015, 08:55 AM
OK...guess I will ask since no one else has. Where are the release notes?

They usually don't post them until the server is ready to come up. You can expect to wait another 2 hours or so

Feal
01-14-2015, 08:55 AM
would like lag to be fixed, especially in thunderholme

the guy who said more chance for LH+1, i'm with him, pls do it

about champs, i see some time they are tougher then normal... i don't know what is this thing you wanna add about them, but for this toughest champ i would like to receive some Xp

please fix the ladder bug, i can't play prove your worth for that :)

Folker
01-14-2015, 09:10 AM
OK...guess I will ask since no one else has. Where are the release notes?

Release notes please, we were promised we could view them during the downtime.

LXP
01-14-2015, 09:15 AM
would like lag to be fixed, especially in thunderholme

the guy who said more chance for LH+1, i'm with him, pls do it

about champs, i see some time they are tougher then normal... i don't know what is this thing you wanna add about them, but for this toughest champ i would like to receive some Xp

please fix the ladder bug, i can't play prove your worth for that :)

Never had a ladder bug happen in prove your worth. :)

SiliconScout
01-14-2015, 09:16 AM
Kind of disappointing to see yet another ingredient being added to the game because I expect it will have to do with epic green steel and a bunch MORE ingredients for a whole new crafting system.... honestly that isn't one of DDO's weak points. It's probably got as many crafting systems as build options really.

Here's hoping it stacks to 9999 and DOES NOT go in a bag. If it goes in a bag at some time it's likely to be duped from what I am told. The only thing worse than adding yet another crafting system to the game would be to have a new crafting system rendered pointless shortly after release because it's materials were duped.

SiliconScout
01-14-2015, 09:19 AM
Release notes please, we were promised we could view them during the downtime.Where on earth did they say THAT?? Not in this thread, it only states they would be available today.

???

Typically they come out when the announcement of the worlds being back up comes out. That announcement typically has a link to said notes.

XodousRoC
01-14-2015, 09:21 AM
Never had a ladder bug happen in prove your worth. :)

I've never had the ladder bug happen anywhere!

*Now excuse me whilst I away to my plastic surgeon. These nose reduction surgeries are getting out of hand...

donblas
01-14-2015, 09:24 AM
Where on earth did they say THAT?? Not in this thread, it only states they would be available today.

???

Typically they come out when the announcement of the worlds being back up comes out. That announcement typically has a link to said notes.

Cordovan said in the OP:
"Patch notes will be available during the downtime."

But there may be a slight difference between patch notes and release notes.

Impaqt
01-14-2015, 09:27 AM
o.O some of you folks have strange memories....

Jerry usually gets us the release notes early in the downtime. but hes never "Promised" them at a specific time.

Seamonkeysix
01-14-2015, 09:36 AM
It would seem that everything that is going into this update would be easily available to put out in release notes at any time.

That being said, I can only speculate that from time to time, things that were intended to go into the update don't work out during the process of adding them, and are removed prior to the game going back live. (IOW - the devs don't want to tell us we are getting something in the update that doesn't actually materialize).

It would be nice to see what this update is bringing...exactly.

Nefatron
01-14-2015, 09:44 AM
You guys are crying about release notes already?

Every Hotfix, Update ive been around for the release notes get dropped at the same time or moments prior to the servers going back live.
Go play some farmville or something and we will get the info soon.

96th_Malice
01-14-2015, 09:46 AM
They usually don't post them until the server is ready to come up. You can expect to wait another 2 hours or so

Or 4

hehe

tinnertaz
01-14-2015, 09:59 AM
FYI, this is for Update 24 Patch 1. We'll have Release Notes tomorrow, but we can say that the patch will introduce Mysterious Fragments to the game (Monster Champion rewards), in addition to bug fixes and some tweaks to barbarian enhancements.[/QUOTE]

so how bout them release notes jerry

Cordovan
01-14-2015, 09:59 AM
Release Notes (https://www.ddo.com/en/update-24-patch-1-release-notes) are now available.

jayne1973
01-14-2015, 10:00 AM
Release Notes (https://www.ddo.com/en/update-24-patch-1-release-notes) are now available.

hmmm.. page not found

kauetomaz
01-14-2015, 10:00 AM
Release Notes (https://www.ddo.com/en/update-24-patch-1-release-notes) are now available.

404 - not found, also game is patching already woooooo woooo

Astarii
01-14-2015, 10:01 AM
having same issue

Loromir
01-14-2015, 10:07 AM
You guys are crying about release notes already?

Every Hotfix, Update ive been around for the release notes get dropped at the same time or moments prior to the servers going back live.
Go play some farmville or something and we will get the info soon.


Then your memory is failing....we frequently have release notes within an hour or so of downtime. Granted...you've only been around for about a year.


And....by the way, I don't play farmville.

Cordovan
01-14-2015, 10:10 AM
Are folks still having a problem reading the release notes? They're published, and - should - be available.

kauetomaz
01-14-2015, 10:12 AM
Are folks still having a problem reading the release notes? They're published, and - should - be available.

yeah i can see them alright, do i like them? thats a different question altogether (hint: NO)

moomooprincess
01-14-2015, 10:13 AM
404 - not found, also game is patching already woooooo woooo

You could have patched around 40 minutes ago, but the servers are still closed anyway

cdbd3rd
01-14-2015, 10:13 AM
Are folks still having a problem reading the release notes? They're published, and - should - be available.

Working now. https://www.ddo.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.png

LXP
01-14-2015, 10:14 AM
Release Notes (https://www.ddo.com/en/update-24-patch-1-release-notes) are now available.

Thanks for the info. Link works now.

moomooprincess
01-14-2015, 10:15 AM
yeah i can see them alright, do i like them? thats a different question altogether (hint: NO)

Whew, Panther Cat Family is now Great Cat. Huge relief. :o

drathdragon
01-14-2015, 10:16 AM
misterious fragments ??? O_o

i fall like a bad apple from the tree...

sounds interesting..

Loromir
01-14-2015, 10:17 AM
Whew, Panther Cat Family is now Great Cat. Huge relief. :o


Yea...I was really worried about that. Was starting to feel like the ladder bug.

Zoda
01-14-2015, 10:17 AM
Release Notes (https://www.ddo.com/en/update-24-patch-1-release-notes) are now available.

Nice... so can I have a free tr back to paladin? I renewed my subscriprion just to get nerfed and sick of this game again. Well played.

moomooprincess
01-14-2015, 10:18 AM
Monster Champions

Monster Champions no longer spawn in quests below level 5. Quests which are level 3 on Normal would not have Champions on Hard, but would on Elite, since Elite difficulty would bring the quest level to 5.
The chance for epic monsters to ignore ability score damage has been reduced from 90% down to 33% on Epic Hard and 50% on Epic Elite. This chance remains zero percent on Epic Casual and Epic Normal.
Champions have had their chance to gain True Sight reduced.
Champions now have a greater chance to See Invisible.
The amount of hit point buffs for Monster Champions has been reduced for most levels.
The triggered buff from Second Wind has been reduced from nine seconds to six seconds.

Bummer, I rather enjoyed seeing Champions in Korthos. But I understand that it is rather unfair to new players to see a rather massive meat locker in front of them.

Astarii
01-14-2015, 10:18 AM
all is good

kauetomaz
01-14-2015, 10:18 AM
Whew, Panther Cat Family is now Great Cat. Huge relief. :o

yep that was definitely the most pressing thing to address and spend time/resources on, whenever i got stuck on lag with a panther besides me the only thing i could think about was "when will the fix the panther family to great cat?"

WhiiteWolf
01-14-2015, 10:20 AM
Hello Everyone,

As to updates and such to the game, I my self would like to see something done with the lag on the server(s) which IMHO seems to be linked to the higher amount of Population on a given server, I'm not sure if it is possible but if there is a sweet spot for this then instead of packing people in to max, leave a little head-room to alleviate this. This Lag/spiking/ wouldn't irritate me so bad but when it happens my toon can be hit/killed, buffs still count down etc. and I can't do a thing, this happened to me last evening, and when the lag/spike finished I came back dead. I will keep a better eye on the server but I can say that this happens less on lower populated servers, IMHO. I notice this issue even when viewing vendors, the list seems to take forever to populate and/or receive your plat when you sell items.

On a side note, and if any Devs read these posts, could you make another type of " character path " so if one chooses, they can take advantage of the wilderness slayer counts, that literally if you completed them, you could just max level from doing that but you don't really get anything out of it other then satisfaction and/or you say to yourself, " Am I really getting that bored in DDO that I have to do slayers, to feel like this is the only way I can get XP " That I don't need because my toon is capped already.

Even starting players when they get enough favor they get an extra bag for inventory, what does one receive for actually grinding the slayers to completion? they may get some xp early on, but after that it's just to say they completed it, if they bother with that at all. So why make these slayers so many to get, GiantHold was my first real wilderness slayer completion, and it was just exhausting, and what did Devs do bring out Heroic/Epic versions like that's just what I needed to want to do it all over again, but at least for a little while it made sense as there were destinies to level up, but what does one do when they have the destinies done and there still more slayer areas to finish if one chooses?

DDO is still a great game but the endless grinding of anything and everything is really too too much, with no real reward for actually having the intestinal fortitude to complete them..

Cheers, thanks for taking the time to read this.

Sincerely, W.W.

Question? Are completionist players required to do these to have the benefits?

RotR
01-14-2015, 10:20 AM
The DDO Game Servers will be brought down on Wednesday, January 14th from 9:00 AM - 12:00 PM Eastern (-5 GMT) for an update to the game. Thanks for your patience, and we'll see you back in the game soon! Patch notes will be available during the downtime.

FYI, this is for Update 24 Patch 1. We'll have Release Notes tomorrow, but we can say that the patch will introduce Mysterious Fragments to the game (Monster Champion rewards), in addition to bug fixes and some tweaks to barbarian enhancements.


Are they going to fix the Silver flame amulet, mine doesn't seem to work on two different toons. Put in a work odrer but haven't heard back.

axel15810
01-14-2015, 10:22 AM
One item that stuck out like a sore thumb from the release notes:

"Mysterious Fragments can only appear if the difficulty-modified quest level is equal to our higher than the player character's level that killed the Champion."

I really don't like this. Makes sense in heroics, but in epics why are we still basing things like this on character level? All the power is in epic destinies, level 20s in their main destinies are more powerful than level 28s who aren't. This just gives players even less incentive to stay at cap.

Our drops shouldn't be penalized for gaining character levels.

Now we have one more item to add the huge number of reasons why there is no purpose in staying at level 28.

Devs will you please give me a reason to stay at level 28? And something to do while I'm there? Farming mysterious fragments could have given me a reason to stay at level 28. I don't want to ETR all the time but there's nothing else to do.

Thlargir
01-14-2015, 10:23 AM
Release Notes (https://www.ddo.com/en/update-24-patch-1-release-notes) are now available.

"Mysterious Fragments can only appear if the difficulty-modified quest level is equal to our higher than the player character's level that killed the Champion."

Can we assume that this will mean that we will see lfms posted by high level farmers of Mysterious Fragments in low level quests requesting low level characters to perform killing blows?

Vargouille
01-14-2015, 10:25 AM
("There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary and those who don't.")

There are 10 kinds of people - those who use binary, those who don't, and those who start counting at zero.

Cordovan
01-14-2015, 10:28 AM
The worlds have reopened! Thank you for your patience, and we will see you in the game!

Tesrali
01-14-2015, 10:34 AM
no scrolls for us:

Inventory error.
Placement failed!


Still testing but appears to be all scrolls. You can't put em in your hand.

Revolted
01-14-2015, 10:34 AM
"Fire on Thunder Peak
The weather is now nicer, and filled with less particles."

Yes finally won't have to take my backpack full of antihistaminics to do that quest!

Eryhn
01-14-2015, 10:34 AM
just logged into argo

worlds open I suppose?

just a thought on mythic fragment rare pets: can we have a mimic pet? it can hold 10 slots of additional invent following you through quests and all (and having those items accessible midquest) - however it has a 1 in 200 chance to *digest* any given item you put into it - in return it has a 1 in 500 chance to *burp up* a valuable random item that belonged to its previous owner.

it is a small mimic, a petish one, so it only holds 10 items ...however, players can purchase the pet hat of the crowned mimic for the same price an additional character invent slot would cost.

doing that allows the pet to over time grow into a full fledged mimic champion. growth tier 2: holds 15 items, growth tier 3: holds 20 items, final tier 4: mimic is well trained and will no longer randomly eat your stuff. the growth rate is tied to the amount of loot it ate away from you, every 25 consumed items it levels up one tier.

I think this would be a nice *mythic* pet ...

it also should have nice pet talk - like "feed me one of those annoying talking parrots or I eats your shinies"

Erofen
01-14-2015, 10:35 AM
there are 10 kinds of people - those who use binary, those who don't, and those who start counting at zero.haha! ;)

Clarkie
01-14-2015, 10:37 AM
Try to equip a scroll:

Inventory Error
Placement failed!

Erofen
01-14-2015, 10:37 AM
One item that stuck out like a sore thumb from the release notes:"Mysterious Fragments can only appear if the difficulty-modified quest level is equal to our higher than the player character's level that killed the Champion."I really don't like this. Makes sense in heroics, but in epics why are we still basing things like this on character level? All the power is in epic destinies, level 20s in their main destinies are more powerful than level 28s who aren't. This just gives players even less incentive to stay at cap.Our drops shouldn't be penalized for gaining character levels.Now we have one more item to add the huge number of reasons why there is no purpose in staying at level 28. Devs will you please give me a reason to stay at level 28? And something to do while I'm there? Farming mysterious fragments could have given me a reason to stay at level 28. I don't want to ETR all the time but there's nothing else to do.I noticed this too. In Epics this is a major bummer because most quests are in the 21-25 range.

Cordovan
01-14-2015, 10:39 AM
Try to equip a scroll:

Inventory Error
Placement failed!

We are investigating.

zaphear
01-14-2015, 10:39 AM
Bring it back down, you broke scrolls

Eryhn
01-14-2015, 10:41 AM
Try to equip a scroll:

Inventory Error
Placement failed!

confirmed: on ship/at harbor/inquest for heal/ressurect/restore/teleport/greater teleport/fireshield.

aka in all likelyhood scroll use 100% broken.

you can take the servers down again, I'll check in 3h again.

need I say this is one of those bugs that is extremely efficient in spreading positive feels?

axel15810
01-14-2015, 10:42 AM
I noticed this too. In Epics this is a major bummer because most quests are in the 21-25 range.

Exactly my thoughts - Level 28's can only gain mysterious fragments from a small percentage of epic content, while lower level epic characters can farm them from all of it. That's not right.

zaphear
01-14-2015, 10:44 AM
They should of made all eh/ee lvl 21+ quest champions drop them instead of at level.

Also, since the vendors are up and that the rewards aren't all that.. not a big deal if they drop more.

Revolted
01-14-2015, 10:46 AM
One item that stuck out like a sore thumb from the release notes:

"Mysterious Fragments can only appear if the difficulty-modified quest level is equal to our higher than the player character's level that killed the Champion."

I really don't like this. Makes sense in heroics, but in epics why are we still basing things like this on character level? All the power is in epic destinies, level 20s in their main destinies are more powerful than level 28s who aren't. This just gives players even less incentive to stay at cap.

Our drops shouldn't be penalized for gaining character levels.

Now we have one more item to add the huge number of reasons why there is no purpose in staying at level 28.

Devs will you please give me a reason to stay at level 28? And something to do while I'm there? Farming mysterious fragments could have given me a reason to stay at level 28. I don't want to ETR all the time but there's nothing else to do.

^ This!

Erofen
01-14-2015, 10:46 AM
They should of made all eh/ee lvl 21+ quest champions drop them instead of at level.Also, since the vendors are up and that the rewards aren't all that.. not a big deal if they drop more./signed

Kristii
01-14-2015, 10:49 AM
Looks like Champions were nerfed again. That's disappointing. I liked that I had a harder time soloing quests that were above my level (only on my third life btw).

Eryhn
01-14-2015, 10:53 AM
Exactly my thoughts - Level 28's can only gain mysterious fragments from a small percentage of epic content, while lower level epic characters can farm them from all of it. That's not right.

and since you have to take it down again why dont you fix this incarnation of unreasonableness right away anyways? I overread this earlier but this is just stingy. If you absolutely feel like you have to prevent capped toons from grinding mythic fragments on EE saga tours like mad make it a +4 to character level like the heroic power level treshhold ... and that's still an unreasonable nuissance to some, mind

Roland_D'Arabel
01-14-2015, 10:54 AM
They should of made all eh/ee lvl 21+ quest champions drop them instead of at level.


^This!

Cordovan
01-14-2015, 10:56 AM
We are aware of an issue that can prevent the proper usage or inventory re-placement of stackable items, and are working on a hotfix.

kauetomaz
01-14-2015, 11:00 AM
We are aware of an issue that can prevent the proper usage or inventory re-placement of stackable items, and are working on a hotfix.

how about instead of working on a hotfix you dont release bugs that are so easy to test in a closed server... ohh wait that would imply there was any testing done for a change, how naive of me

LightSteel
01-14-2015, 11:05 AM
Anyone else stuck on Installing Pre-Reqs?

Erofen
01-14-2015, 11:05 AM
So Tawny Lion Cub pet is a snow panther with yellow painted on its top half... yay? Don't get me wrong I will definitely try and get it, but with 10k frags cost? Ew... motes are easier to get than that and those are tradable.

RedOrm
01-14-2015, 11:10 AM
I noticed this too. In Epics this is a major bummer because most quests are in the 21-25 range.

Have to agree: this sucks. Haven't seen the reward options yet, but yea, this makes champion drops largely a waste of space.
I hate TRing, so I will rarely see them. Which sucks.

Greetz,
Red Orm

Erofen
01-14-2015, 11:13 AM
Have to agree: this sucks. Haven't seen the reward options yet, but yea, this makes champion drops largely a waste of space. I hate TRing, so I will rarely see them. Which sucks.Greetz,Red Orm1 Pet, 1 Lasting potion of whatever type, 1 heal/harm scroll, 1 potion of haste, waterbreathing, jump? all for ridiculous prices. Yah double whammy on 28s.

RedOrm
01-14-2015, 11:23 AM
1 Pet, 1 Lasting potion of whatever type, 1 heal/harm scroll, 1 potion of haste, waterbreathing, jump? all for ridiculous prices. Yah double whammy on 28s.

Thanks. Might want the pet if it's one I don't have yet, the rest they can keep. Which is good I suppose, I won't feel like I'm missing out on anything. But I'd have preferred the chests.

Greetz,
Red Orm

Seamonkeysix
01-14-2015, 11:27 AM
As far as scrolls go...at least a temporary work around. If you get rid of old scrolls and buy new ones, they work. FYI

TheStog
01-14-2015, 11:28 AM
Thanks. Might want the pet if it's one I don't have yet, the rest they can keep. Which is good I suppose, I won't feel like I'm missing out on anything. But I'd have preferred the chests.

Greetz,
Red Orm

Did they removed chests from them at the same time? If that true now champions are guaranteed to be unrewarding, at least the chests had a chance to drop something useful.

TheStog
01-14-2015, 11:28 AM
As far as scrolls go...at least a temporary work around. If you get rid of old scrolls and buy new ones, they work. FYI

Reports are this only works until you unequip them. Then they bug out...so not a viable option.

Seamonkeysix
01-14-2015, 11:29 AM
Reports are this only works until you unequip them. Then they bug out...so not a viable option.

You are correct. I just learned this, as well. Expensive lesson.

RotR
01-14-2015, 11:31 AM
Try to equip a scroll:

Inventory Error
Placement failed!
Tried to move an item in inventory and got similar response, wont let me move item, inflict wounds potion for my Pale master

TheStog
01-14-2015, 11:33 AM
Tried to move an item in inventory and got similar response, wont let me move item, inflict wounds potion for my Pale master

These are all the real mysterious remnants of this update.

RedOrm
01-14-2015, 11:35 AM
Did they removed chests from them at the same time? If that true now champions are guaranteed to be unrewarding, at least the chests had a chance to drop something useful.

That is how I understood things, that the fragments would replace the chests. Of course, I may have misunderstood (or they may have changed it between then and now), and I really, really hope that is the case!

Greetz,
Red Orm

Erofen
01-14-2015, 11:35 AM
These are all the real mysterious remnants of this update.:p

Psiandron
01-14-2015, 11:37 AM
There are 10 kinds of people - those who use binary, those who don't, and those who start counting at zero.

Win!!

;D

apacheizm23
01-14-2015, 11:47 AM
The worlds have reopened! Thank you for your patience, and we will see you in the game!

The game is unplayable for me at least. I can't equip any of my scrolls at all. This is a big deal, I am playing two heroic characters at the moment that rely on some scroll use and I guess I won't play till its fixed. I have shi! to do anyway so I guess I'll go shopping instead.

Please fix this ASAP thank you..

slarden
01-14-2015, 11:52 AM
Release Notes (https://www.ddo.com/en/update-24-patch-1-release-notes) are now available.

"Lasting Ability Score potions (like Bull's Might, Fox's Cunning, etc.) now have a one hour duration and pause in public areas, and have been renamed "Long Lasting"."

I predict you will sell more of these now.

brian14
01-14-2015, 11:55 AM
That is how I understood things, that the fragments would replace the chests. Of course, I may have misunderstood (or they may have changed it between then and now), and I really, really hope that is the case!

Release Notes: "Players can find Mysterious Fragments in some chests when encountering minibosses, and can sometimes find them on the ground when defeating regular Champions."

Champion minibosses were the ones that (sometimes) dropped extra chests before, but minibosses usually have chests to begin with; so the above quote is not clear. Has anyone seen a champion chest yet since the update?

brian14
01-14-2015, 11:56 AM
Can we assume that this will mean that we will see lfms posted by high level farmers of Mysterious Fragments in low level quests requesting low level characters to perform killing blows?
Quite likely, if Mysterious Fragments are unbound.

Are they unbound?

DrRomz
01-14-2015, 12:01 PM
Release Notes: "Players can find Mysterious Fragments in some chests when encountering minibosses, and can sometimes find them on the ground when defeating regular Champions."

Champion minibosses were the ones that (sometimes) dropped extra chests before, but minibosses usually have chests to begin with; so the above quote is not clear. Has anyone seen a champion chest yet since the update?

Yes I've seen 3 or 4 usually with around 10 Mysterious Fragments, however I did get 38 in one.

Edit: I have also seen a fragment stack drop without a chest, not in a bag or anything just a puck-like disk on the ground that everyone in the party get to loot like a bag.

Is it just me, or do the shadow auras seem to be quite intense again?

apacheizm23
01-14-2015, 12:10 PM
As far as scrolls go...at least a temporary work around. If you get rid of old scrolls and buy new ones, they work. FYI

Is that right?? Thanks for the info. Can anyone else confirm this? I'll try it out later when I get back in.

RedOrm
01-14-2015, 12:12 PM
Release Notes: "Players can find Mysterious Fragments in some chests when encountering minibosses, and can sometimes find them on the ground when defeating regular Champions."

Champion minibosses were the ones that (sometimes) dropped extra chests before, but minibosses usually have chests to begin with; so the above quote is not clear. Has anyone seen a champion chest yet since the update?

Thanks, my mistake then. SO we get to keep the chests, and if the quest is at or above my level there may be fragments as well? That's better. Still won't see many shards, but hey I only want the pet anyway.
Edit: 10.000 fragments?!! Ok... nvm then, fragments are now officially useless clutter.
Edit 2: /insert lengthy, highly ticked off rant about there being all of ONE. Single. Quest. that capped, non-EE players can get drops from, and a whopping TWO quests total for the EE folks. Urgh.
And sure, More Quests Will Be Added... But even so: for anyone that actually wants a lion pet, Farmville is by far the better option. Or a ticket for the zoo.

/rant off.
/Zennnnn
/back to playing the game in the happy knowledge there will be no fragments cluttering up my backpack.

Greetz,
Red Orm

FestusHood
01-14-2015, 12:13 PM
Yes I've seen 3 or 4 usually with around 10 Mysterious Fragments, however I did get 38 in one.

Edit: I have also seen a fragment stack drop without a chest, not in a bag or anything just a puck-like disk on the ground that everyone in the party get to loot like a bag.

Is it just me, or do the shadow auras seem to be quite intense again?

What level quest were you running? I did Stromvauld's Mine and got 3,3,1 fragments from chests. Apparently the level of the quest is related to how many you get.

apacheizm23
01-14-2015, 12:15 PM
Reports are this only works until you unequip them. Then they bug out...so not a viable option.

Ohh ^%$# thanks for the info. I was gonna log in later and buy new scrolls for my toons. Oh well I am out till they come up with a hot fix than.

horriblescarz
01-14-2015, 12:16 PM
Is that right?? Thanks for the info. Can anyone else confirm this? I'll try it out later when I get back in.

just tested.. bought 1 scroll used it successfully, bought 2 scrolls equipped and used, then unequipped and tried to re-equip the remaining scroll.. PLACEMENT ERROR.

the suggested workaround is only a semi workaround.. unless im doing it wrong

Seamonkeysix
01-14-2015, 12:24 PM
just tested.. bought 1 scroll used it successfully, bought 2 scrolls equipped and used, then unequipped and tried to re-equip the remaining scroll.. PLACEMENT ERROR.

the suggested workaround is only a semi workaround.. unless im doing it wrong

Nope. You're correct. You just did it the smart way...mine cost me a buncha plat ;)

Clarkie
01-14-2015, 12:28 PM
Where is the vendor for mysterious remants?

DrRomz
01-14-2015, 12:31 PM
What level quest were you running? I did Stromvauld's Mine and got 3,3,1 fragments from chests. Apparently the level of the quest is related to how many you get.

I as running a level 15 quest "Disciples of Shar" on elite with 3 level 17 characters in the party.

Scndncmnd
01-14-2015, 12:41 PM
My Stones of XP are missing!!

Maelphistez
01-14-2015, 12:42 PM
I'm not usually one to jump on the "beat up on the Devs" bandwagon, but this is just ridiculous. Can't move scrolls, thieves tools, potions, etc around in my inventory. Scrolls completely unusable. I find it incredibly unlikely that no QA tester noticed these huge problems, reinforcing the belief that this ridiculous mess was coded and dropped onto Live servers with zero testing. Why would you do this?

Knock, knock, knock... Programming 101 is calling to remind you of a basic lesson: Don't release untested code.

TPICKRELL
01-14-2015, 12:51 PM
Where is the vendor for mysterious remants?

Hall of Heroes

RedOrm
01-14-2015, 12:52 PM
Where is the vendor for mysterious remants?

In the Hall of Heroes. Kinda fitting...

Greetz,
REd Orm

axel15810
01-14-2015, 01:11 PM
I'm not usually one to jump on the "beat up on the Devs" bandwagon, but this is just ridiculous. Can't move scrolls, thieves tools, potions, etc around in my inventory. Scrolls completely unusable. I find it incredibly unlikely that no QA tester noticed these huge problems, reinforcing the belief that this ridiculous mess was coded and dropped onto Live servers with zero testing. Why would you do this?

Knock, knock, knock... Programming 101 is calling to remind you of a basic lesson: Don't release untested code.

A lot of bugs they can't detect internally. I'm sure they would have noticed this.

Lots of things can happen once updates hit live that are unexpected.

jayd6974
01-14-2015, 01:14 PM
My only question is when is it going to be fixed?

Systern
01-14-2015, 01:37 PM
Exalted Angel's Purity of Essence now gives the correct values of Healing Amplification - 6/12/20 total.
Yaaa!


Epic Destinies:


NEW: Exalted Angel's Purity of Essence has not been upgraded to the new Healing Amplification system, and continues to produce its previous effects.

Huh?



Cordovan, I don't want to seem like I'm flaming or bashing on you guys... Regarding Mysterious Fragment vendor's "updated in the future" wares...

Commendations of Valor have not been maintained. They were supposedly created as THE new currency for the future, and yet, here's Mysterious Fragments... another new "currency".
Skill Augments have not been maintained. They are not available from vendors or even the DDO store.
Monster Manuals have not been updated. I really want Drow expertise at the very least. It's kind of irritating to have some mobs have expertise available and not all of them.
Cannith Crafting is out of date, as commented on in the producer's letter.

Historically, you guys don't have the best track record of "get this unfinished system out the door and we'll come back to it later."

Cordovan
01-14-2015, 01:54 PM
We are currently working on a hotfix, and will have more information about an exact downtime when we know more. The goal is to get the hotfix out as soon as possible.

RedOrm
01-14-2015, 01:59 PM
Commendations of Valor have not been maintained. They were supposedly created as THE new currency for the future, and yet, here's Mysterious Fragments... another new "currency".

Here's a thought... How about replacing the Mysterious Fragments with cov's? Or if that's a problem due to duping, replace cov's with fragments?
That way we have one currency instead of 2, and a better list of stuff to choose from (yes the 2 lists combined). (and yes those of us that have come to dislike TRing would have something to spend those cov's on...)

Greetz,
Red Orm

warioman91
01-14-2015, 02:11 PM
Ya those Barb trees that got tweaked are disabled.... devs prolly already know that and did that on purpose but ...ya cant do anything with those

Vargouille
01-14-2015, 02:37 PM
Ya those Barb trees that got tweaked are disabled.... devs prolly already know that and did that on purpose but ...ya cant do anything with those

If your Barbarian enhancements got reset, you should be able to immediately put points back into them.

If you are unable to use any Barbarian enhancements, that's an issue we haven't been seeing and would love more information to figure out what's going on.

lyrecono
01-14-2015, 05:01 PM
Nice... so can I have a free tr back to paladin? I renewed my subscriprion just to get nerfed and sick of this game again. Well played.

agreed, i would like a free tr too, barbarians still aren't where they are supposed to be.


Hello Everyone,

As to updates and such to the game, I my self would like to see something done with the lag on the server(s) which IMHO seems to be linked to the higher amount of Population on a given server, I'm not sure if it is possible but if there is a sweet spot for this then instead of packing people in to max, leave a little head-room to alleviate this. This Lag/spiking/ wouldn't irritate me so bad but when it happens my toon can be hit/killed, buffs still count down etc. and I can't do a thing, this happened to me last evening, and when the lag/spike finished I came back dead. I will keep a better eye on the server but I can say that this happens less on lower populated servers, IMHO. I notice this issue even when viewing vendors, the list seems to take forever to populate and/or receive your plat when you sell items.

On a side note, and if any Devs read these posts, could you make another type of " character path " so if one chooses, they can take advantage of the wilderness slayer counts, that literally if you completed them, you could just max level from doing that but you don't really get anything out of it other then satisfaction and/or you say to yourself, " Am I really getting that bored in DDO that I have to do slayers, to feel like this is the only way I can get XP " That I don't need because my toon is capped already.

Even starting players when they get enough favor they get an extra bag for inventory, what does one receive for actually grinding the slayers to completion? they may get some xp early on, but after that it's just to say they completed it, if they bother with that at all. So why make these slayers so many to get, GiantHold was my first real wilderness slayer completion, and it was just exhausting, and what did Devs do bring out Heroic/Epic versions like that's just what I needed to want to do it all over again, but at least for a little while it made sense as there were destinies to level up, but what does one do when they have the destinies done and there still more slayer areas to finish if one chooses?

DDO is still a great game but the endless grinding of anything and everything is really too too much, with no real reward for actually having the intestinal fortitude to complete them..

Cheers, thanks for taking the time to read this.

Sincerely, W.W.

Question? Are completionist players required to do these to have the benefits?

lag due to high population? hahahahahahahaha, we used to have more then double the population and less then half this lag.
You're proberbly new here but we used to have so much more people on the servers, the problem lies on turbines end, something about their routing that messes things up.
As for the slayers, you are aware that in heroics, quests yield far more exp/min? only the last 2 slayer area's yeild a lot of exp. were you looking for a cosmetic title? slayer of shadows (thunderholme) or silver flame hunter (necro 4)? a reward for a pointless endavor?
what do you mean by "Are completionist players required to do these to have the benefits?" what benefits are you talking about?


1 Pet, 1 Lasting potion of whatever type, 1 heal/harm scroll, 1 potion of haste, waterbreathing, jump? all for ridiculous prices. Yah double whammy on 28s.
I saw the list, the only person who was happy with them in guild was the necro wiz, that untill he noticed the scroll bug XD


If your Barbarian enhancements got reset, you should be able to immediately put points back into them.

If you are unable to use any Barbarian enhancements, that's an issue we haven't been seeing and would love more information to figure out what's going on.

why were these pushed on us, it's not like we (the paying customers, who's feedback was asked yet ignored) agreed upon them, the capstone is now nutered.


as for the release notes:

Classes

Characters with Greater Rage, gained at barbarian level 11, now get +10 Physical Resistance Rating when wearing Medium armor.
What barbarian wanting to survive doesn't equip a platemail? it's still superiour to the medium one even with this change


DDO Store

Lasting Ability Score potions (like Bull's Might, Fox's Cunning, etc.) now have a one hour duration and pause in public areas, and have been renamed "Long Lasting".
The "Panther Cub" family of Creature Companions has been renamed to "Great Cat."
The Panther Creature Companion's "Teach Bat with Paw" treat has been renamed to "Great Cat Treat - Teach Bat with Paw".
Enhancements

so glad this got priority....

Barbarian Frenzied Berserker's Storm's Eye now costs 1 Action Point, and has had its functionality updated to read:
Activate: You gain 25 stacks of Storm's Eye. Cooldown is 150 seconds.
Storm's Eye: +1 melee damage. One stack fades away every three seconds.
Passive: +4 Constitution, +10 Melee Power. When raging your melee attacks have a 5% chance to deal 400 bludgeoning damage. This damage scales with 100% Melee Power.
so half the enhancements but even less the functionality, what a waste of time, not just of the programer but also ours for the ignored feedback.


Monster Champions no longer spawn in quests below level 5. Quests which are level 3 on Normal would not have Champions on Hard, but would on Elite, since Elite difficulty would bring the quest level to 5.
The chance for epic monsters to ignore ability score damage has been reduced from 90% down to 33% on Epic Hard and 50% on Epic Elite. This chance remains zero percent on Epic Casual and Epic Normal.
Champions have had their chance to gain True Sight reduced.
Champions now have a greater chance to See Invisible.
The amount of hit point buffs for Monster Champions has been reduced for most levels.
The triggered buff from Second Wind has been reduced from nine seconds to six seconds.

so a minor speedbumb to tr vets with more inventory clogging ingredients that give nothing of value besides harm scrolls for the necro wiz. stuff is overpriced anyway.
How about an opt out check box turbine?


so all in all this patch gave us more stuf we didn't asked for and broke stackeble equipeble items, sigh....

Nubom70
01-14-2015, 10:07 PM
They broke XP potions, too. Awesome, I can't even move it into my INV to use one.