Completionist and Warlock

[beta1]

I have a question that I'm sure has been answered in the past when new classes are added. If I have a completionist toon who has taken the completionist feat the day before a new class is released what happens to me? Do I keep the feat until I reincarnate? (I am assuming that since I start at level 1 when I LR, TR or ER and rebuild my toon, if I do any of them after the new class is released I can't take completionist again until I run a life on the new class.)

Thanks

[HastyPudding]

I don't know, although I'd sure be interested in what the Warlock past life passive would entail.

- +1 UMD and +1 spellcraft?
- +2 stacking MRR?
- +2 universal spellpower?

[Vellrad]

same as when they added artificer and droid, u will receive free respec and completionist will deactivate

[Ayseifn]

same as when they added artificer and droid, u will receive free respec and completionist will deactivate

If you had completionist at the time of the release of druids and artificers you got the class for free too, wonder if that'll happen this time.

[axel15810]

same as when they added artificer and droid, u will receive free respec and completionist will deactivate

Yep, this.

[fmalfeas]

I don't know, although I'd sure be interested in what the Warlock past life passive would entail.

- +1 UMD and +1 spellcraft?
- +2 stacking MRR?
- +2 universal spellpower?

I suspect something like +1 to charisma skills in general (warlocks can speak with the silver tongue of devils). With the active likely giving a boost to universal spellpower, and either a fiendish resiliance 1/day power (short term 'fast healing') or a use of something like Dark One's Own Luck (+6 profane bonus to reflex or will, chosen when cast).

[Oxarhamar]

I don't know, although I'd sure be interested in what the Warlock past life passive would entail.

- +1 UMD and +1 spellcraft?
- +2 stacking MRR?
- +2 universal spellpower?

I doubt it will be UMD as that's Arti passive already.


to the OP you will lose Completionist until you complete Warlock. Expect to see a good influx of exCompletionists running Warlock in Heroics when it is added.

[Uska]

I doubt it will be UMD as that's Arti passive already.


to the OP you will lose Completionist until you complete Warlock. Expect to see a good influx of exCompletionists running Warlock in Heroics when it is added.

Yup and if the past is an indicator +hearts and Xp stones won't work on them for a while

[slarden]

Yup and if the past is an indicator +hearts and Xp stones won't work on them for a while

There is always iconics :)

[Angelic-council]

I don't know, although I'd sure be interested in what the Warlock past life passive would entail.

- +1 UMD and +1 spellcraft?
- +2 stacking MRR?
- +2 universal spellpower?

Uh.. That's a tricky one. Warlocks specialized in the dark arts, soul manipulation.. I was originally thinking maybe it has something to do with summoning, but that is already taken by the druids... It has to fit warlocks roll.. Like, sorcerers are evocation masters = 1 DC, Wizards are spell masters = spell pen etc. Now, how about warlocks then.

- + 1 necro DC (maybe not)
- + 2 incorporeality
- Unconscious extend

Not 100% accurate, but something like that: Life and death, darkness related passive feat? It's possible.

[Uska]

There is always iconics :)

bet they lock those out as well no short cuts at first for a new class and nor should there be.

[depositbox]

bet they lock those out as well no short cuts at first for a new class and nor should there be.

Iconic isnt a shortcut. You have to reach 28 to get that. Im sure most people would realize the shortcut would be otto's. But some people are really special snowflakes that die in wilderness zones, so

[Atremus]

Iconic isnt a shortcut. You have to reach 28 to get that.

This will be the first time a new class has been released since the Iconic's so what ever happens will set the precedent for future class releases if we ever get anymore. I personally think that we will be able to TR/LR+1 into Iconic's so that all of us can discover new/unexpected bugs with all of the races.

This new class will be very interesting. Some sort of ranged class with arcane blast powers...

[Lonnbeimnech]

The shortcut is to be sitting at level 12, 1 xp from level 14 on a 6/6 build the day warlock comes out, then take the last 8 levels as warlock and TR.

[Ayseifn]

The shortcut is to be sitting at level 12, 1 xp from level 14 on a 6/6 build the day warlock comes out, then take the last 8 levels as warlock and TR.

And used a heroic Otto's box before the update.

[Uska]

Iconic isnt a shortcut. You have to reach 28 to get that. Im sure most people would realize the shortcut would be otto's. But some people are really special snowflakes that die in wilderness zones, so

It is a short cut you can get 14 levels of the class without playing it I say 14 because the first lvl is preset and I don't think +hearts will work at first. Hopefully it will be like Artie's and Druids and everyone will have to play from lvl 1 for at least the first six months

[Uska]

The shortcut is to be sitting at level 12, 1 xp from level 14 on a 6/6 build the day warlock comes out, then take the last 8 levels as warlock and TR.

I hope they block that nonsense as well

[depositbox]

It is a short cut you can get 14 levels of the class without playing it I say 14 because the first lvl is preset and I don't think +hearts will work at first. Hopefully it will be like Artie's and Druids and everyone will have to play from lvl 1 for at least the first six months
Ok, so what about the 14 levels you have to play?

[the_one_dwarfforged]

i hope iconics can be used with warlock.

i really really dont want to play a caster.

[EllisDee37]

Not sure about druid, but I remember when artificer was first released, the only way to play it was to start as an artificer at level 1 and play it from there. No vet status, no multiclassing into it after level 1. I expect something similar:

- No vet status
- No multiclass into warlock
- No otto's boxes

[larry73]

I think that when they release warlocks they should also create a new race "an old one" like gnomes

[Lonnbeimnech]

Not sure about druid, but I remember when artificer was first released, the only way to play it was to start as an artificer at level 1 and play it from there. No vet status, no multiclassing into it after level 1. I expect something similar:

- No vet status
- No multiclass into warlock
- No otto's boxes

With druid I was waiting at lvl 12, 1xp from 14 as a monk/ranger. When druid came out it bought it and immediately took a level of druid.

[Uska]

Ok, so what about the 14 levels you have to play?

your not playing the majority of the class and a new class you should

[Uska]

Not sure about druid, but I remember when artificer was first released, the only way to play it was to start as an artificer at level 1 and play it from there. No vet status, no multiclassing into it after level 1. I expect something similar:

- No vet status
- No multiclass into warlock
- No otto's boxes

that's the way it was but Iconics weren't around yet.

[depositbox]

your not playing the majority of the class and a new class you should

im playing exactly 50% of the class. Where do you get these rules from? And I cant multiclas? that went out the window with druids. If theyre the same as past precedent then otto's, multiclass and iconic will all work. As they should WAI

[Oxarhamar]

im playing exactly 50% of the class. Where do you get these rules from? And I cant multiclas? that went out the window with druids. If theyre the same as past precedent then otto's, multiclass and iconic will all work. As they should WAI

Surely the only classes I ever players pure were my first fighter life back when leveling sigils still existed & my fighter Artificer life by choice.

Majority levels in a class are required for PL feat not some imaginary player purest restrictions.

[Uska]

im playing exactly 50% of the class. Where do you get these rules from? And I cant multiclas? that went out the window with druids. If theyre the same as past precedent then otto's, multiclass and iconic will all work. As they should WAI

Partially wrong when the pervious classes were added you couldn't use an otto box at first nor could you use a +heart and Iconics didn't exist when they came out I hope they stick to the same rules and prevent the cheating

[Oxarhamar]

Partially wrong when the pervious classes were added you couldn't use an otto box at first nor could you use a +heart and Iconics didn't exist when they came out I hope they stick to the same rules and prevent the cheating

Your idea of cheating does not hold over the WAI in game mechanics.

[slarden]

your not playing the majority of the class and a new class you should

Alot of people did ran most of their lives 9 druid 2 monk 9x so they could use the same gear most lives. The path of least resistance is the most worn trail in this game.

[Munkenmo]

Alot of people did ran most of their lives 9 druid 2 monk 9x so they could use the same gear most lives.

Ooh, I know that build!

[Oxarhamar]

Alot of people did ran most of their lives 9 druid 2 monk 9x so they could use the same gear most lives. The path of least resistance is the most worn trail in this game.

Yep I run a similar Artifer based build.

Just use all my existing gear take a few Arti levels & enough class levels to get past life with a sprinkle of whatever other class I deam appropriate to fill in the gaps and its on.

[Uska]

With druid I was waiting at lvl 12, 1xp from 14 as a monk/ranger. When druid came out it bought it and immediately took a level of druid.

Multiclass yes, iconic or +heart no you still were a 1st lvl Druid who didn't cheat to do more, I,have nothing against that but if you have any warlock,lvls it should lock out xp stones I know that Druid lvls and Artie lvls did make those not work on characters with those classes at first

[Uska]

Your idea of cheating does not hold over the WAI in game mechanics.

Umm wrong again xp stones didn't work on Druids or Artie's when they were first released so,I am right not you

[Uska]

Alot of people did ran most of their lives 9 druid 2 monk 9x so they could use the same gear most lives. The path of least resistance is the most worn trail in this game.

Chessy and boring as hell but those are power leveling players that I don't see how they can really be having fun rushing to the end for no purpose. I would be happy to,have a new class to play on my main if it was a class I wanted and I would take my time and enjoy it but warlock I will wait until xp stones work and skip it

[Oxarhamar]

Umm wrong again xp stones didn't work on Druids or Artie's when they were first released so,I am right not you

That didn't limit multi classing or the other topics you claim to cheating in the quoted comment.

[Oxarhamar]

Chessy and boring as hell but those are power leveling players that I don't see how they can really be having fun rushing to the end for no purpose. I would be happy to,have a new class to play on my main if it was a class I wanted and I would take my time and enjoy it but warlock I will wait until xp stones work and skip it

So you'll wait until the method you call cheating works then in your own words cheat.

[IronClan]

Uska you have a really terrible habit of thinking that the way you play is the way everyone should be forced to play. Might want to look into that, it's the MMO equivalent of trying to project your religious or moral believes onto other people who do not believe what you do. In other words it is an ethically bankrupt and intellectually inferior position.

[Uska]

So you'll wait until the method you call cheating works then in your own words cheat.

Yes I will be cheating and I do,step back slightly on my other chest comment taking a lvl without xp stone or + heart isn't cheating and I hope all forms are blocked on warlocks for at least 6 months

[Uska]

Uska you have a really terrible habit of thinking that the way you play is the way everyone should be forced to play. Might want to look into that, it's the MMO equivalent of trying to project your religious or moral believes onto other people who do not believe what you do. In other words it is an ethically bankrupt and intellectually inferior position.

Whatever my main point is a new class should be played for the main part before it can be bypassed and that Druid and Artie were that way and hopefully the garbage that is warlock will have to be as well even though it means giving up my completionist feat for however long it is since I refuse to fully play that class. Only class I have banned from my 5e gsme I have started

[Oxarhamar]

Yes I will be cheating and I do,step back slightly on my other chest comment taking a lvl without xp stone or + heart isn't cheating and I hope all forms are blocked on warlocks for at least 6 months

Neither Druid or Artificer were restricted that heavily for that long so don't get your hopes up.

[EllisDee37]

Neither Druid or Artificer were restricted that heavily for that long so don't get your hopes up.Druid was restricted much less than artie (you could multiclass into druid) but even the artie restrictions only lasted until the first patch/update after release, IIRC. So agreed, whatever restrictions there may be, it won't be more than a couple/few weeks at most.