The Monument in Delera's Graveyard needs another :(

[brian14]

Ralph Baer, the father of video games, has died (http://kotaku.com/the-father-of-video-games-ralph-baer-has-passed-away-1667980395)

[cdbd3rd]

A sad passing, but a bit far removed from us to warrant a shrine.

[Uska]

Sad tidings but not deserving of a monument here only other person who might deserve one on his passing is Lou Zoochi(spelling)

[Powskier]

only if he died playing video games

[PermaBanned]

Gygax's memorial in Delera's Graveyard is fitting. Perhaps - if anything - a dedicated statue in the Hall of Heros would be more fitting here?

[brian14]

Gygax's memorial in Delera's Graveyard is fitting. Perhaps - if anything - a dedicated statue in the Hall of Heros would be more fitting here?
Yes, this sounds more appropriate

[mudfud]

No reason to add monuments or honorable mention more people anywhere. I don't use the game and I'm sure many others don't to see "garbage" like that. Because if we are going to start, then I want to nominate my goldfish who died when I was 4. One of my dogs who passed away when I was 12.

[Xaxx]

No reason to add monuments or honorable mention more people anywhere. I don't use the game and I'm sure many others don't to see "garbage" like that. Because if we are going to start, then I want to nominate my goldfish who died when I was 4. One of my dogs who passed away when I was 12.

If your dog or your goldfish helped to make something, then by all means errect whatever you wish in their honor at that place. Yet as neither had anything to do with gaming, dnd, or computing history, your comments just make you ignorant. I would say troll... but this wasnt even a troll... just ignorant.

Now to comment on the thread that the wannab troll is spoken of. I understand why the current guys are where they are being who they are. Baer didnt really think to much about pong when he created it, and when asked about it later in life just kinda laughed it off. He never really seemed to take true pride in what he started and what it became.. not that I personally ever saw. Not the way Gary and Dave did. You could also say that every video game could owe him hommage. The ones already memorialized mean much to dnd and dnd specifically. If there was a modern pong, thats where Baer deserves to be memorialized, not here. I can see an argument for it, but I dont think he should be.... leave dnd for dnd.

[Rykka]

Sad tidings but not deserving of a monument here only other person who might deserve one on his passing is Lou Zoochi(spelling)

Yeh it's Zocchi and he made some fine dice, but (even if you hated Arduin) Dave Hargrave deserves as much.

[PermaBanned]

If there was a modern pong, thats where Baer deserves to be memorialized......and they could call it "Baer Pong!" :D

[Chauncey1]

No reason to add monuments or honorable mention more people anywhere. I don't use the game and I'm sure many others don't to see "garbage" like that. Because if we are going to start, then I want to nominate my goldfish who died when I was 4. One of my dogs who passed away when I was 12.

That is really cold.

[mudfud]

If your dog or your goldfish helped to make something, then by all means errect whatever you wish in their honor at that place. Yet as neither had anything to do with gaming, dnd, or computing history, your comments just make you ignorant. I would say troll... but this wasnt even a troll... just ignorant.

Now to comment on the thread that the wannab troll is spoken of. I understand why the current guys are where they are being who they are. Baer didnt really think to much about pong when he created it, and when asked about it later in life just kinda laughed it off. He never really seemed to take true pride in what he started and what it became.. not that I personally ever saw. Not the way Gary and Dave did. You could also say that every video game could owe him hommage. The ones already memorialized mean much to dnd and dnd specifically. If there was a modern pong, thats where Baer deserves to be memorialized, not here. I can see an argument for it, but I dont think he should be.... leave dnd for dnd.


That is really cold.

It's not ignorant or cold. I know who he is, and just don't care enough for there to be a monument to him. And it's not a troll either. We've seen this before as stated from the Boston Memorial they had in the marketplace. Why have that? It had nothing to do with people who play ddo in other countries, but yet, I understand why it was done, and how Turbine is based there. And then what happens when people from other countries want memorials to somebody or something that effected there lives. Where is our memorial for what happened in Japan since I know we have Japanese players. It's not a place for that in ddo, shouldn't become a thing like that in ddo. You want to pay homage to somebody, go form a party, make a thread on your server or multiple server forums, gather together and pay your homage in general chat. It's been done before with events like memorial day and other holidays special to people.
And if something like that would even be considered my goldfish and my dog are both as deserving of that right for a monument because of what they mean to me and my gaming experience.

Edit: On further thought Chauncey it probably can be considered cold, but I still feel the same way, something like that just doesn't belong ingame.

[Dragavon]

Edit: On further thought Chauncey it probably can be considered cold, but I still feel the same way, something like that just doesn't belong ingame.

I do agree with you, but I also agree with people that feel your comment was cold. Because it was.

But people that had no part in D&D does not belong in DDO. IMO the only other person that should get a monument is Ed Greenwood (long may he live), and that should be in Eveningstar. It should be in Shadowdale really, but we do not have that in DDO yet :)

[Rykka]

It's not ignorant or cold. I know who he is, and just don't care enough for there to be a monument to him. And it's not a troll either. We've seen this before as stated from the Boston Memorial they had in the marketplace. Why have that? It had nothing to do with people who play ddo in other countries, but yet, I understand why it was done, and how Turbine is based there. And then what happens when people from other countries want memorials to somebody or something that effected there lives. Where is our memorial for what happened in Japan since I know we have Japanese players. It's not a place for that in ddo, shouldn't become a thing like that in ddo. You want to pay homage to somebody, go form a party, make a thread on your server or multiple server forums, gather together and pay your homage in general chat. It's been done before with events like memorial day and other holidays special to people.
And if something like that would even be considered my goldfish and my dog are both as deserving of that right for a monument because of what they mean to me and my gaming experience.

I think it matters more what people mean to people. You probably are just a younger player. Zocchi was bit of an institution, hard selling his high impact dice on the floor in gaming conventions. I still have a Zocchi set of dice from the late 80s. Unlike the Collectors Card d20 they'll still work in future years.

[Uska]

Yeh it's Zocchi and he made some fine dice, but (even if you hated Arduin) Dave Hargrave deserves as much.

I had forgotten him and no I liked Arduin just haven't touched it in 30 years or more

[Kawai]

...jabber jabber jabber durka durka...

Lake Stormreach is looking mighty inviting this time o' year.
*hint: Put on you're heaviest armor, & nosedive.

[Chauncey1]

It's not ignorant or cold. I know who he is, and just don't care enough for there to be a monument to him. And it's not a troll either. We've seen this before as stated from the Boston Memorial they had in the marketplace. Why have that? It had nothing to do with people who play ddo in other countries, but yet, I understand why it was done, and how Turbine is based there. And then what happens when people from other countries want memorials to somebody or something that effected there lives. Where is our memorial for what happened in Japan since I know we have Japanese players. It's not a place for that in ddo, shouldn't become a thing like that in ddo. You want to pay homage to somebody, go form a party, make a thread on your server or multiple server forums, gather together and pay your homage in general chat. It's been done before with events like memorial day and other holidays special to people.
And if something like that would even be considered my goldfish and my dog are both as deserving of that right for a monument because of what they mean to me and my gaming experience.

Edit: On further thought Chauncey it probably can be considered cold, but I still feel the same way, something like that just doesn't belong ingame.

But also needlessly rude and absolutely disrespectful. I could go on, but this is the last I will say on this matter.

[Forzah]

But also needlessly rude and absolutely disrespectful. I could go on, but this is the last I will say on this matter.

Still it seems rather arbitrary to add a monument for one person and not another. I don't really find the idea that unique either. People have been studying game theory since the 1940s and games probably for millennia. Computerizing is a simple next step.

[Chauncey1]

Still it seems rather arbitrary to add a monument for one person and not another. I don't really find the idea that unique either. People have been studying game theory since the 1940s and games probably for millennia. Computerizing is a simple next step.

Whether or not Mr. Baer deserves a monument in DDO notwithstanding, there was absolutely no need for such rudeness and disrespect from mudfud.

I don't think a monument is necessarily warranted myself, but I also didn't feel the need to compare the deceased with goldfish and dogs.

[Uska]

Still it seems rather arbitrary to add a monument for one person and not another. I don't really find the idea that unique either. People have been studying game theory since the 1940s and games probably for millennia. Computerizing is a simple next step.

No its not one has something to do with dungeons and dragons the other doesn't. My suggestion was for someone who is considered by most to be the father of modern dice but he shouldn't really qualify yet because he is alive still

[LordKalkin]

No reason to add monuments or honorable mention more people anywhere. I don't use the game and I'm sure many others don't to see "garbage" like that. Because if we are going to start, then I want to nominate my goldfish who died when I was 4. One of my dogs who passed away when I was 12.


+1 googolplex

[salmag]

But people that had no part in D&D does not belong in DDO. IMO the only other person that should get a monument is Ed Greenwood (long may he live), and that should be in Eveningstar. It should be in Shadowdale really, but we do not have that in DDO yet :)

I would add Baker before Greenwood. Eberron was here first.

[oradafu]

It's been over 8 months since Dave A. Trampier died and I've yet to see a nod by DDO to him. If there's three artists that ooze early DDO, they were Dave A. Trampier, David C. Sutherland III and Erol Otus.