Poll: Whats the most dangerous boss

[Loromir]

Who in your opinion would you say is the Toughest / Most Dangerous at level Boss in DDO? I'm not talking about the toughest quest...but who is the toughest boss (Epic Elite Version or Heroic Elite if Epic not availabe)?

Some honorable mentions from my opinion:

Arraetrikos
Horoth
Cholthulzz
Raiyum
Khaszlokhar - From Reclaiming the Rift
Demon Queen

And Finally Bloodknuckles from Kobolds Ring Leader. He's probably killed more unsuspecting noobs than any other boss in the game.


All of these could easily take you out in very short order if your not well prepared. I know there are others...what are your thoughts.

[Devilteck]

Barnizidu for A New Invasion

Pit Fiend with fast healing FTW.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Barnizidu

[Bolo_Grubb]

LAG

and then waggro

[Monkey-Boy]

in the current game? I can't think of any.

The "challenge" comes from the waves of (often red-named) trash and other junk like the "blue stuff" in Mark of Death. There isn't a badassed boss anymore.

Glad you mentioned KNRL . . . that ogre scared the heck out of me the first time I saw him.

[Wipey]

Artifact "boosted" Nev or Tharaxata.
elite Aurgloroasa
elite Karleth
marilith Aurelia in Pop and EE Lailat.
EE mod Deathknights
Edgar in Fleshmaker and named Draegloth in Broken chains can hit quite hard too.

But since everybody ( including myself ) plays broken 200 prr, 1200 hp and 70 saves pally now, "risk" is greatly reduced.

[Loromir]

in the current game? I can't think of any.

The "challenge" comes from the waves of (often red-named) trash and other junk like the "blue stuff" in Mark of Death. There isn't a badassed boss anymore.

Glad you mentioned KNRL . . . that ogre scared the heck out of me the first time I saw him.


I doubt many people can stand toe to toe with Epic Elite Demon Queen.

[Wipey]

EE Lailat can't kill afking capped Paladin in Shadow plate good sir.

[Grailhawk]

IMO at the time he was introduced LOB, hes not what he used to be do to power creep but if they uped his damage to EE level 30 he would be a beast.

Next up would be DQ, but same issue.

[Monkey-Boy]

I doubt many people can stand toe to toe with Epic Elite Demon Queen.

ANYTHING in heavy armor will make her your $#^&@. She's a pushover now, my light-armor ranger EE at level laughed it off

[JOTMON]

Lord of Blades - his whirlwind attack packs a punch.

[Mercureal]

Early in my game play, the most dangerous boss I remember was Whisperdoom on elite in the level 11 free to play quest. Massive resistance to everything (it seemed), moved around a lot, big AOE attack that you couldn't evade (Horrid Wilting, I think), high damage and fast regeneration. She slaughtered several full parties I was in, sometimes more than once when we did the recall-re-entry thing just trying to complete. She became less fearsome over the years, of course.

The Barnizidu fight is still quite difficult at level, and almost certain to kill some of the group if multiple people go down. The Marilith at the end of Bastion of Power has always killed at least a few people whenever I've run it.

[cdbd3rd]

Not an uber leet raid boss or anything, but Desaga from Enter the Kobold.

From his natural kobold jumping anti-grav skill where he jumps out over the lava and hangs out there, to his knack for jumping INTO the lava every time you about have him killed so that he 'dies' and repops at full health, he can be frustrating.

[Lechesis]

at level - maybe Karas. He's sort of DDO's sweeny todd with his caster meat pies.

[bennyson]

ANYTHING in heavy armor will make her your $#^&@. She's a pushover now, my light-armor ranger EE at level laughed it off

Guess the Demon Queen isn't so much of a queen after all.

[Theolin]

Raiyum

^^ This guy that dang disintegrate will kill you if you fail that save, boom splat.

[moo_cow]

The tree at the end of overgrowth. The one after you beat down the dryad.

[Panzermeyer]

My vote actually goes to Xy'zzy. Recently even tried this again at level. And party wipe.

She is nasty.

And true true part of her nastiness is the friends that she has around her that make her hard.

[psykopeta]

for several stated reasons, epic bosses aren't dangerous anymore, but thinking at lvl, heroic and solo (and even grouping sometimes XD), come to my mind:
- dead pyxzyl cause he is lovely, and yaultoon and his minions, cause they are annoying, both in in the flesh
- dead reaver in sos, i mean for the opt chest, cause... well, cause it's annoying to keep the track of which mephits are up lol
- auroa in elite demon's den, cause haven't done it in years, scary memories come to my mind, reaons are obvious: most vets don't know how to run it yet (same as pit fiend in new invasion)
- whisperdoom in tangleroot, cause it's not needed, like the wraith in catacombs, and both are almost unkillable, sigh well designed quests :(
- iron fire bomber in blown to bits depending the build
- that lich in that spiral tower in delera's graveyard with his mantle of invulnerability, i've seen lfm of capped players asking for help in that boss XD


imho the only hard bosses are in old quests and for players who don't know the quest, cause they are unkillable (like yaultoon or aurora when their shield is up) meanwhile, from a point til now, doesn't matter if you don't know the weak point of a boss, you can brute force it and kill it

ofc all i have meant are heroic, and have been killed, wonder how many players have done it solo and elite at lvl w/o twink gear XD

PS: bloodknuckles... he made me run til the shrine on fear, was playing a pure clr my 1st life (with stats as in pnp, so had more dex than con as example lol) and ran out of sp, good old times, when there was something called surprise factor, now we know not only the monsters' location, also their walking route even

[kanordog]

And Finally Bloodknuckles from Kobolds Ring Leader. He's probably killed more unsuspecting noobs than any other boss in the game.



I hoped that he's in...

[FranOhmsford]

Surprised no-one's mentioned the "Summoned Fire Elemental" in Lair of Summoning yet.

That thing is nasty at level when soloing {unless you're on an ice sorc of course!}.

I am assuming of course that the OP wants examples of super dangerous bosses to the unprepared newbie soloing elite at level {Not having the right weapon, Group specced build, someone without shipbuffs!}.


Here's some others:

Archbishop Dryden
Hetman Shaagh
Syndicate Enforcer {Entire End Fight in Come Out and Slay}
Nepenthe's Son
Landslide
Calefax the Mad
R'zzix the Beholder
Adran ir'Karsmore
Brother Nerezza

And a couple that can wipe unprepared groups:

General Xanti'lar
Hound of Madness {If the group even gets that far!}

[Powerhungry]

that contains the evil LAG monster (responsible for more raid wipes than all other bosses combined...

[Sehenry03]

Warlock Cyressy

The rare necro at the end of Butchers Path. You go through the water and open the door under water and swim through. Run down a short tunnel and see a trog.

I remember the first time I found him YEARS ago and charged him and quite abruptly died after he fireballed me LOL

[Eth]

You would probably have a hard time killing the Warforged Titan or Xy'zzy outside of their quest mechanics ;)

EE Raiyum at level 24 can also still pretty tough (those goddamn hex-wraiths).

[the_one_dwarfforged]

my vote is for aurelia. if youre not ready for it she can take you out in under a second, no buffs required (looking at you red dragons...).

demon queen ee is a joke...

[Seikojin]

I haven't faced them all on my own up front. But of the ones I have fought, the Maralith is the hardest.

[JOTMON]

my vote is for aurelia. if youre not ready for it she can take you out in under a second, no buffs required (looking at you red dragons...).

demon queen ee is a joke...


demon queen ee is a joke...

Well she is now for Epic level 28 Destinied toons with TR's and Epic past lives....

Its not really a fair comparison anymore , EDQ is a level 20 endgame raid from 2009..
She was never designed to face a game upgraded to level 28 with epic destinies and such.

All these bosses are more challenging when faced at the difficulty level they were designed for.

To make it a fair comparison, you would need to face off against them with level appropriate toons and gear from the time era...
so no ship buffs either.. or DDO store pots. or any other cheesy bs stuff. (like tornado pots, card items, event items and such)

[MadCookieQueen]

Epic EE Cholthulzz -- seriously...unstoppable -20 CON rays of death and helplessness = the suckage

[the_one_dwarfforged]

Well she is now for Epic level 28 Destinied toons with TR's and Epic past lives....

Its not really a fair comparison anymore , EDQ is a level 20 endgame raid from 2009..
She was never designed to face a game upgraded to level 28 with epic destinies and such.

All these bosses are more challenging when faced at the difficulty level they were designed for.

To make it a fair comparison, you would need to face off against them with level appropriate toons and gear from the time era...
so no ship buffs either.. or DDO store pots. or any other cheesy bs stuff. (like tornado pots, card items, event items and such)

sure its not a fair comparison but it is what it is.

at level im still more afraid of aurelia. currently running low prr build, got hit with all six swords a couple days ago on ee at 25, dead in under a second flat. have a friend with a high prr pally and if it werent for loh hed die in there too occasionally.

lailat just doesnt deal as much damage per hit.

[Loromir]

sure its not a fair comparison but it is what it is.

at level im still more afraid of aurelia. currently running low prr build, got hit with all six swords a couple days ago on ee at 25, dead in under a second flat. have a friend with a high prr pally and if it werent for loh hed die in there too occasionally.

lailat just doesnt deal as much damage per hit.

Just to point out...the OP did say "At Level". I think Demon queen raid is lvl 22 on EE....so against at lvl charcaters, she's pretty nasty. And as said above, she was designed during the pre-epic destiny days.

[Tobril]

A few I still have to pay attention to while fighting at level:



Guy at the end of the dreaming dark chain
In the Flesh end fight
Rainbow wall(s) in Shroud when solo

[Rys]

Optional troglo from Butcher's Path and Sunken Sewer.

[Sir_Chonas]

Lich from Dead Girl if you're melee. Globe of inflict serious wounds or something . . . had to eat aloooottta cake soloing that one on my monk.

[FranOhmsford]

Lich from Dead Girl if you're melee. Globe of inflict serious wounds or something . . . had to eat aloooottta cake soloing that one on my monk.

Dead Girl is the Level 6 quest Valak's Mausoleum.

The Lich you're talking about would be Calliphor Validus from And the Dead Shall Rise {The Spire of Validus} right?

[Loromir]

Dead Girl is the Level 6 quest Valak's Mausoleum.

The Lich you're talking about would be Calliphor Validus from And the Dead Shall Rise {The Spire of Validus} right?



It's not a lich in Dead Girl quest...but a nasty Arcane Skellie.

[brian14]

Worst boss fights tend to be that way not because of the boss himself, but because of the flunkies (In the Flesh, Spinner of Shadows, elite Chronoscope), or because of particularly difficult fight mechanics (Shroud part 4, Temple of the Deathwyrm). Individually awesome end bosses IMO are all mariliths. Several people already mentioned Queen Lailat and Princess Aurelia, but my top choice at-level would be epic Devashta. Put it this way -- I went to the trouble of making a Mineral II Greensteel bow for one of my toons for the express purpose of fighting Devashta.

[TeacherSyn]

At-level? Quite a few named already. My personal beefs, where I bring out my A-game, are:


Karas in "Lords of Dust." Especially on Epic difficulties. You learn why you need more than 100% fortification after he hits you there.
Aarretrikos. Even on Heroic Elite, he's still a poison-immune, death-poison dealing bag of HP that takes even a full over-leveled Epic character party some time to whittle down.
Any beholder. Bane of all players, but a good stun from a Monk and he's a punching bag.
The Devourer of Dreams in "The Dreaming Dark." No escape. No shrine. Stat-draining as well as his minions. A Crystal/Good DR. He's just hard to hurt.
Priestess Vicala in "Impossible Demands": As deadly as she is beautiful. If you leave too much alive in that farmhouse, she'll outlast your party.
Whisperdoom in her named quest. For the unprepared, her Horrid Wilting and strange DR (she's a magical beast, not spider) will stymie parties. Learned happily that she's not poison-immune, and a Ninja Spy turns her into bug jelly fast with Ninja Poison DoTs.
Aurora the marilith in "In the Demon's Den." On Hard and Elite difficulties, she goes on the offensive immediately. You can't kill her until her efreeti are killed, which take time. Combined with plenty of minions in your way, she's a logistical nightmare.


For a very low-level surprise: Kobold Shamans. You forgot to get some Electric Resistance? You won't next time you see these guys. What part of "Kobold hate you" did you not understand?

[Sir_Chonas]

It's not a lich in Dead Girl quest...but a nasty Arcane Skellie.

That's the one.