Druid 9 / monk 9 / fighter 2 hints

[giluke]

Hi everyone

asking you some advice for my 2nd life as druid/monk/fighter 9/9/2 after a rogue life.
Progression atm will be 9 druid, 9 monk, 2 fighter
Idea is to run around in wolf form, hoping it should have enough survivability even I've not so many gear to buff him. I do not wnat to solo EE content but at least to end with not to many death in that kind of difficulty

Feats are
Druid 1 Empower healing
Druid 3 Quicken spell
Druid 6 TWF
Druid 9 Natural fighting
Monk 1 Toughness ??
Monk 2 Dodge ??
Monk 3 Natural fighting and monk path
Monk 6 Mobility and master of forms
Monk 9 Improved critical Bludgeoning
Fight 1 ITWF
Fight 2 GTWF
then on epic, overwhelming critical + natual fighting + PTWF and first blood ??

Some question
1- feat with ?? are not yet sure, any hint ? Is stunning fist a better option or Wisdom requirement are too high keeping in mind I need always Str to hit/damage ?
2- Basic and advanced Ninja training can help at least to reduce ability investment leaving STR at 13 ? Is it working with Wild Shape ?
3- if not, having to keep STR high is not better to go Half orc to get 2 str point ? Or better to go human to get another feat ? To be invested in ?


Many thanks

[unbongwah]

Adv Ninja Training does not apply to unarmed atks, which includes animal forms. So STR-based is your only DPS option.

If you take a rgr splash instead of ftr, you can take SWF+TWF feats, as long as you take SWF before rgr 2. SWF atk speed bonus applies to wolf druids as long as you meet the equipment pre-reqs; in the case of a Drunken Wolf, you need a 1H ki weapon in your mainhand and your offhand empty (handwraps and staves don't work). Feats get pretty tight, though, if you're trying to squeeze in both chains and Natural Fighting.

[Munkenmo]

You should find a template that covers this split fairly well if you google pastlifenmo.

[giluke]

Adv Ninja Training does not apply to unarmed atks, which includes animal forms. So STR-based is your only DPS option.

If you take a rgr splash instead of ftr, you can take SWF+TWF feats, as long as you take SWF before rgr 2. SWF atk speed bonus applies to wolf druids as long as you meet the equipment pre-reqs; in the case of a Drunken Wolf, you need a 1H ki weapon in your mainhand and your offhand empty (handwraps and staves don't work). Feats get pretty tight, though, if you're trying to squeeze in both chains and Natural Fighting.


I prefer not to go TWF and SWF toghether, I believe soon the possibility to get both will be removed, so not playing so often I prefer to avoid the risk my feat need a restyling while I'm playing it.
Thanks for yuor answer confirming some of my fears.

[giluke]

You should find a template that covers this split fairly well if you google pastlifenmo.

ok, found
thanks for the reply

[giluke]

Again me

is stunning blow working with handwraps and wild wolf shape ?

[Munkenmo]

Again me

is stunning blow working with handwraps and wild wolf shape ?

I assume you mean stunning fist. As discussed in pastlifenmo, wolf attacks are considered unarmed regardless of what weapons you have equipped (that's why you use improved critical bludgeoning). So, as long as you are centered (eg I use kamas) you can have any weapon equipped and still use all monk unarmed abilities freely.

[Toro12]

Does the flame blade wisdom att/dmg mod transfer to wolf form?
I've never had any interest in Druids to bother testing.

If so is it possible to cast flame blade , go wolf form get WIS to damage and since it is considered unarmed still use stunning fist.

But like I said , I know nothing about Druids

[unbongwah]

Does the flame blade wisdom att/dmg mod transfer to wolf form?
No.

[giluke]

So to end the dicussion

Stunning blow => useless in wolf form
Stunnin fist => hard to get a valid DC due to the fact that you need str to hit and damage and stunning fist is WIS based

Correct or I miss something ?

[unbongwah]

Stunning blow => useless in wolf form
Stunning Blow works on any melee atk. Whether you can hit useful DCs is another matter.

Stunnin fist => hard to get a valid DC due to the fact that you need str to hit and damage and stunning fist is WIS based
Which is the same problem every unarmed monk has, so it's WAI. The only silver lining, like fTdOmen said, is that Stunning Fist will work with any ki weapon in animal form; while regular monks have to equip handwraps to use S.Fist.

[Munkenmo]

stunning fist is generally worth picking up, because it has a lower cooldown than stunning blow, and a better base formula for your initial DC before stat mod.

Stunning blow = 10+ stat mod
Stunning fist = 10 + (1/2*character level) + stat mod.

[giluke]

stunning fist is generally worth picking up, because it has a lower cooldown than stunning blow, and a better base formula for your initial DC before stat mod.

Stunning blow = 10+ stat mod
Stunning fist = 10 + (1/2*character level) + stat mod.

Again, thanks a lot