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Failedlegend
11-03-2014, 04:23 AM
So yeah pretty much the title I finally finished rebuilding my Wiz-tank (Wizard/Fighter) (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/447520-Dwarven-Death-Knight-%28LR-0-Rebuild%29) and need to do some loot upgrading since it's been lagging FAR behind for a very long time.

Anyways I'll list off my current equipment and my planned equipment and I'd love to get suggestions as my planned equipment is unfnished, note that I am open to basically any suggestions as long as the equipment is not super duper rare (ie. no bloodstones)

Current Equipment: (Will fill out when I get home)

Head: Purple Dragon helm
Neck: +5 Intelligence of Wizardry 6
Trinket: Voice of the Master
Cloak: +6 Charisma
Belt: Epic Spare Hand
Ring1: Ring of really low Nullification
Ring2: +8 Strength, +7 Resistance, -1 Cha
Gloves: Lesser Arcane Casting
Boots: +10 Balance, +5 Dex
Bracers: Parrying IV
Armor: Tier 3 Epic Cavalry Plate w/ -15% ASF Augment
Goggles: Deadly 6 of Resistance 7
Weapon: Tinah, Sword of the Sea
Shield: Fanion

Note: Yep lots of redundancy



Planned Equipment: (Again VERY open to suggestion here)

Head: 24 = ???, 28 = E-Minos
Neck: 24 & 28 = E-Torc
Trinket: 24 & 28 = E-Spyglass w/ VotM Augment (just need worldshaper cloak to create augment)
Cloak: 24 = E-Silver Concord 28 = Deathwyrm Cloak
Belt: 24 = Daggertooth's Belt, 28 = E-Thoughtful Rememberance
Ring1: 24 = ???, 28 = Circle of Malevolence
Ring2: 24 = E-Elemental Essence, 28 = ???
Gloves: 24 = ??? 28 = E-Fanged Gloves
Boots: 24 = Spiked Boots 28 = ???
Bracers: 24 = E-Demon Consort 28 = Guardian Bracers
Armor: 24 = ???, 28 = ???
Goggles: 24 = ???, 28 = ???
Weapon: 24 = ???, 28 = ??? (Any 1-h weapon)
Shield: 24 = ???, 28 = ??? (Large or Tower Depending on ASF)

Failedlegend
11-10-2014, 07:19 AM
No suggestions?

Failedlegend
11-12-2014, 10:28 AM
Filled out "current equipment" section

BigErkyKid
11-12-2014, 01:53 PM
Sorry, it does not seem like a very polished build.

First, you won't have any nice crit profile unless you choose a suboptimal weapon, say mornh.

Then, you have feats all over the place. On a 12 wizard I doubt your spells are very effective.

So all in all this seems more a build for heroics than for epics.

I think forumites aren't investing more time into recommendations because it doesn't look like a serious build.

Failedlegend
11-12-2014, 10:55 PM
Sorry, it does not seem like a very polished build.

First, you won't have any nice crit profile unless you choose a suboptimal weapon, say mornh.

Then, you have feats all over the place. On a 12 wizard I doubt your spells are very effective.

So all in all this seems more a build for heroics than for epics.

I think forumites aren't investing more time into recommendations because it doesn't look like a serious build.

The character was built before epic levels ever existed and I'm trying to slowly drag him to 28 so I can TR him, there's only so much I can do with an LR to improve him.

That said the build is quite effective as an EN tank/hybrid DPS/CC even with outdated equipment. If I could upgrade my Equipment I could at least run EH.

Oxarhamar
11-12-2014, 11:31 PM
The character was built before epic levels ever existed and I'm trying to slowly drag him to 28 so I can TR him, there's only so much I can do with an LR to improve him.

That said the build is quite effective as an EN tank/hybrid DPS/CC even with outdated equipment. If I could upgrade my Equipment I could at least run EH.

The Charicter could probably be adapted to EE though I'm not acustomed to these types of builds.

Derogatory feedback from players who believe only the most OP builds and FOTM are viable is not going to help you.

been playing my Artificer builds in EE while these players have continually insisted Artificers are not viable in EE yet admitting they are incapable of soloing content my Arti had been soloing on EE for ages.

Best to consider feedback from players who run this type of build, maybe best to try searching in the class sub forums.

fmalfeas
11-12-2014, 11:49 PM
The character was built before epic levels ever existed and I'm trying to slowly drag him to 28 so I can TR him, there's only so much I can do with an LR to improve him.

That said the build is quite effective as an EN tank/hybrid DPS/CC even with outdated equipment. If I could upgrade my Equipment I could at least run EH.


28? He doesn't appear to be an Iconic, so you can TR at any point from 20 to 28. Just need a Heroic True Heart of Wood. Epic Reincarnation would just put you back to 20 with an epic past life added, and not being iconic, can't use an iconic heart...and those are the only 2 that require level 28.

So get your Tokens of the Twelve!

Failedlegend
11-13-2014, 02:35 AM
If he was a solo character I totally would but he's part of a static group which includes an iconic so we'd like to ETRR/TR together.

Thats besides the point though I would like some suggestions...would it help if I listed off the effects I'm looking for on items?

Singular
11-13-2014, 06:40 AM
The Charicter could probably be adapted to EE though I'm not acustomed to these types of builds.

Derogatory feedback from players who believe only the most OP builds and FOTM are viable is not going to help you.

been playing my Artificer builds in EE while these players have continually insisted Artificers are not viable in EE yet admitting they are incapable of soloing content my Arti had been soloing on EE for ages.

Best to consider feedback from players who run this type of build, maybe best to try searching in the class sub forums.

ssshhhhhhh! We can't let out how awesome and fun it is to play arties or pretty soon they'll be everywhere! And we won't get the (epic) buffs we deserve!

Singular
11-13-2014, 06:51 AM
So yeah pretty much the title I finally finished rebuilding my Wiz-tank (Wizard/Fighter) (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/447520-Dwarven-Death-Knight-%28LR-0-Rebuild%29) and need to do some loot upgrading since it's been lagging FAR behind for a very long time.

Anyways I'll list off my current equipment and my planned equipment and I'd love to get suggestions as my planned equipment is unfnished, note that I am open to basically any suggestions as long as the equipment is not super duper rare (ie. no bloodstones)

Current Equipment: (Will fill out when I get home)

Head: Purple Dragon helm
Neck: +5 Intelligence of Wizardry 6
Trinket: Voice of the Master
Cloak: +6 Charisma
Belt: Epic Spare Hand
Ring1: Ring of really low Nullification
Ring2: +8 Strength, +7 Resistance, -1 Cha
Gloves: Lesser Arcane Casting
Boots: +10 Balance, +5 Dex
Bracers: Parrying IV
Armor: Tier 3 Epic Cavalry Plate w/ -15% ASF Augment
Goggles: Deadly 6 of Resistance 7
Weapon: Tinah, Sword of the Sea
Shield: Fanion

Note: Yep lots of redundancy



Planned Equipment: (Again VERY open to suggestion here)

Head: 24 = ???, 28 = E-Minos
Neck: 24 & 28 = E-Torc
Trinket: 24 & 28 = E-Spyglass w/ VotM Augment (just need worldshaper cloak to create augment)
Cloak: 24 = E-Silver Concord 28 = Deathwyrm Cloak
Belt: 24 = Daggertooth's Belt, 28 = E-Thoughtful Rememberance
Ring1: 24 = ???, 28 = Circle of Malevolence
Ring2: 24 = E-Elemental Essence, 28 = ???
Gloves: 24 = ??? 28 = E-Fanged Gloves
Boots: 24 = Spiked Boots 28 = ???
Bracers: 24 = E-Demon Consort 28 = Guardian Bracers
Armor: 24 = ???, 28 = ???
Goggles: 24 = ???, 28 = ???
Weapon: 24 = ???, 28 = ??? (Any 1-h weapon)
Shield: 24 = ???, 28 = ??? (Large or Tower Depending on ASF)

Any 1-handed weapon? If you can, for levels 20-22, you probably want a Drow weapon master's weapon. If you're going heavy armor, the easiest way to get a good set is to grab the Purple Dragon Knight set (lvl 20)- maybe grab the long sword, too. The set gives you +9 str, +9 con, +40 false life and heavy fort, plus 30% heal amp. It's a great leveling armor set. You could use it straight up to 28 if you're only running EN and EH.

However, if you're going long term, plan on getting the Flawless Black Dragon armor + helm.

Yeah, Daggertooth is good. The E-thoughtful remembrance is actually lvl 27. Other good belts include fort of dodge or str of dodge or so.

For goggles, I'd look for Deadly of Resistance, as high as you can go for whatever level.

When you reach lvl 26, run the Wheeloon Chain so that you can see each quest reward - pretty good leveling items there, too. The skirmisher's bracers are great (8% doublestrike, and there might be other stuff you like - Sage's Locket for +5 evocation and 15 spellcraft).

For rings...for melee, the EE Ring of Shadow is fantastic - but then you are going to be constantly displaced anyways (although they apparently stack due to a bug). At lvl 26, you can get an EN Consuming Darkness pretty easily (+5 combat mastery, +10 seeker). I'd recommend the Jeweled Cloak from 23 for the EN version and 25, EE. Great leveling gear. If you do challenges, you can farm out an Adamantine cloak of the Wolf - +5 combat mastery and 8% dodge as an alt cloak.

fmalfeas
11-13-2014, 12:29 PM
If he was a solo character I totally would but he's part of a static group which includes an iconic so we'd like to ETRR/TR together.

Thats besides the point though I would like some suggestions...would it help if I listed off the effects I'm looking for on items?

Well, with that taken into account, there's a few things I can think of that could be very valuable for you then, especially considering some of the EK enhancements (like the regenning temp HP with a shield...love that thing).

First one off the top of my head, is Shadowmail. You won't find one in Nullification flavor, I'm afraid, but you can find one for any of the 4 elements or impulse. And the spell failure is basically non-existent from the word go. Restored Elfcraft Plate is another option, being mithral. And of course, Flawless Blue Dragon. Shadow Dragon would be outstanding, and provide valuable gear consolidation, but you'll need to get Shadow Dragon scales, and make it to the Magma Forge.

A sweep through the Stormhorns and Wheloon for end rewards (even the heroic versions) could serve you very well, also. Guardian's Ring is a green slotted ML19 ring with 24 MRR+PRR. Also, those bracers? War Wizard or Sun Soul bracers, most certainly.

Shield-wise, if you can get one, a Purple Dragon shield. You can slot it with -asf or with +spellpower, depending on your needs.

Oxarhamar
11-13-2014, 02:45 PM
ssshhhhhhh! We can't let out how awesome and fun it is to play arties or pretty soon they'll be everywhere! And we won't get the (epic) buffs we deserve!

Your right Arti are total gimp

It's more of thier enhancement trees are trash as well as having no ED thou

Failedlegend
11-13-2014, 06:04 PM
Well, with that taken into account, there's a few things I can think of that could be very valuable for you then, especially considering some of the EK enhancements (like the regenning temp HP with a shield...love that thing).

First one off the top of my head, is Shadowmail. You won't find one in Nullification flavor, I'm afraid, but you can find one for any of the 4 elements or impulse. And the spell failure is basically non-existent from the word go. Restored Elfcraft Plate is another option, being mithral. And of course, Flawless Blue Dragon. Shadow Dragon would be outstanding, and provide valuable gear consolidation, but you'll need to get Shadow Dragon scales, and make it to the Magma Forge.

A sweep through the Stormhorns and Wheloon for end rewards (even the heroic versions) could serve you very well, also. Guardian's Ring is a green slotted ML19 ring with 24 MRR+PRR. Also, those bracers? War Wizard or Sun Soul bracers, most certainly.

Shield-wise, if you can get one, a Purple Dragon shield. You can slot it with -asf or with +spellpower, depending on your needs.

Lemme just reorder this a bit

Armor: Shadowmail, Restored Elfcraft Plate, Flawless Blue Dragon, Shadow Dragon
Ring: Guardian
Bracers: War Wizard, Sun Soul
Shield: PDK
Other: Check out Wheloon/Stormhorns

Anyways I find it really odd that SHADOWmail doesn't offer nullification as an option otherwise it is a pretty cool armor I'll just need to find something with a decent nullification on it

Guardians ring is definitely a great option for a ring

Neither of those bracers interest me much EXCEPT the sun soul bracers parrying effect...so Guardian bracers from Wheloon are perfect.

Shield Wise I'd like to stick to large size shields as the majority of my enhancement points are in Stalwart and Palemaster so my ASF reduction from EK is minimal. Tower only works if the shield has built in ASF reduction.

Your also right about wheloon/stormhorn in general :D

All that said this is a GREAT start thanks man!

Will update the OP shortly but this is what I'm looking at now

Planned Equipment update

Head: 24 = ???, 28 = E-Minos
Neck: Torc (don't really care to epic it)
Trinket: E-Spyglass w/ VotM Augment (just need worldshaper cloak to create augment)
Cloak: 24 = ??? 28 = Deathwyrm Cloak
Belt: 24 = Daggertooth's Belt, 28 = E-Thoughtful Rememberance
Ring1: 24 = ???, 28 = Circle of Malevolence
Ring2: 24 = Guardian's Ring 19 28 = ??? (Sheltering covered by E-Minos)
Gloves: 24 = ??? 28 = E-Fanged Gloves
Boots: 24 = Spiked Boots 28 = ???
Bracers: Guardian's Bracers
Armor: 24 = Shadowmail, 28 = ???
Goggles: Sage's Spectacles
Weapon: 24 = ???, 28 = ??? (Any 1-h weapon)
Shield: 24 = ???, 28 = ??? (Large or Tower Depending on ASF)


Any 1-handed weapon? If you can, for levels 20-22, you probably want a Drow weapon master's weapon. If you're going heavy armor, the easiest way to get a good set is to grab the Purple Dragon Knight set (lvl 20)- maybe grab the long sword, too. The set gives you +9 str, +9 con, +40 false life and heavy fort, plus 30% heal amp. It's a great leveling armor set. You could use it straight up to 28 if you're only running EN and EH.

The PDK stuff might be a nice quick upgrade before looking for more potent but harder to obtain equipment (namely because I have a bunch of commendations in my bank)



+X combat mastery

You mention combat mastery alot, I don't have any tactical abilities so it's not useful to me unfortunately

fmalfeas
11-13-2014, 11:11 PM
Large Shield then, eh? If you're true neutral, it's really hard to go wrong with Light and Darkness, from Mindsunder. Superior Stability, ML18, some DR once upgraded in Dreaming Dark (only useful in raids and on elite, but still...)

For cloak, if you can get your static to run it, I'm a firm believer in the ConOpp cloak. Particularly for the proficient self-healers. I know a paladin with one is nearly indestructible perpetually, I suspect it would be a good boost for you too, not only further recharging your SP, but also tossing temp HP on you, 150 more SP, and all those skill buffs.

Singular
11-14-2014, 12:40 AM
The PDK stuff might be a nice quick upgrade before looking for more potent but harder to obtain equipment (namely because I have a bunch of commendations in my bank)

You mention combat mastery alot, I don't have any tactical abilities so it's not useful to me unfortunately

I made a mistake - the adamantine cloak of the wolf is actually +5 exceptional seeker! Sorry about that. So, with consuming darkness, you can get up to +17. It's quite useful if your blade has high crit range.

BD_
11-14-2014, 12:55 AM
Oathblade from PDK coms will beat or almost any other lvl 20 weapon out there - it's about as good as most CitW weapons. need to be lawful or have 20 UMD. Khopesh from cannith challenges is one of the better lvl 20 weapons out there too - if you can use it, and it's easy to get if you're only doing EN and EH the improved paralyzing will be great too. Guardian ring from heroic stormhorns was already mentioned. In general for easy to get lvl 20 gear Cannith challenge and Estar com gear is tough to beat.

Singular
11-14-2014, 07:14 AM
Oathblade from PDK coms will beat or almost any other lvl 20 weapon out there - it's about as good as most CitW weapons. need to be lawful or have 20 UMD. Khopesh from cannith challenges is one of the better lvl 20 weapons out there too - if you can use it, and it's easy to get if you're only doing EN and EH the improved paralyzing will be great too. Guardian ring from heroic stormhorns was already mentioned. In general for easy to get lvl 20 gear Cannith challenge and Estar com gear is tough to beat.


I made two of those Cannith challenge khopeshes - compared to Drow Khopesh of the Weapon Master, they are lackluster - esp. in EE content. The drow stuff gives very nice crit ranges, and much higher damage. Since he's using a shield, he very likely doesn't need to bother with CC.

Failedlegend
11-14-2014, 08:09 AM
Large Shield then, eh? If you're true neutral, it's really hard to go wrong with Light and Darkness, from Mindsunder. Superior Stability, ML18, some DR once upgraded in Dreaming Dark (only useful in raids and on elite, but still...)

Lawful Neutral unfortunately



For cloak, if you can get your static to run it, I'm a firm believer in the ConOpp cloak. Particularly for the proficient self-healers. I know a paladin with one is nearly indestructible perpetually, I suspect it would be a good boost for you too, not only further recharging your SP, but also tossing temp HP on you, 150 more SP, and all those skill buffs.

Something like this?

Green Steel Weave Cloak
+100 Spell Points, +6 Charisma Skills
+6 Wisdom, +10 Diplo/Haggle
+Coco-OP
Blindness, Disease,Fear, Poison Immunity

My static group won't really want to do this though...WAY too much repeating of the same quest OVER and OVER...maybe I'll try to join some pugs...pugs hate my character though.


Oathblade from PDK coms will beat or almost any other lvl 20 weapon out there - it's about as good as most CitW weapons. need to be lawful or have 20 UMD. Khopesh from cannith challenges is one of the better lvl 20 weapons out there too - if you can use it, and it's easy to get if you're only doing EN and EH the improved paralyzing will be great too. Guardian ring from heroic stormhorns was already mentioned. In general for easy to get lvl 20 gear Cannith challenge and Estar com gear is tough to beat.


I made two of those Cannith challenge khopeshes - compared to Drow Khopesh of the Weapon Master, they are lackluster - esp. in EE content. The drow stuff gives very nice crit ranges, and much higher damage. Since he's using a shield, he very likely doesn't need to bother with CC.

Well I do have Tinah, Sword of the Sea but I've only got 29 UMD (it needs 32)..is that a good one?

unbongwah
11-14-2014, 09:02 AM
Large & tower shields block Evasion now, unfortunately; is your plan to ditch Evasion entirely?

Failedlegend
11-14-2014, 09:30 AM
Large & tower shields block Evasion now, unfortunately; is your plan to ditch Evasion entirely?

Yeah, the smoother HP loss of High PRR/MRR synergizes better with death aura better than the spikes and dives of evasion.

Singular
11-14-2014, 09:40 AM
Well I do have Tinah, Sword of the Sea but I've only got 29 UMD (it needs 32)..is that a good one?

One of your main focuses is tanking, so I'd say that Tinah is a good choice, esp. when combined with the Planar Focus of Prowess - +4 to attack and damage, +15 prr bonus. It's not ultra top one hand dps, but it will certainly do until you run across another one. Plus, you get a red slot that you can fit a necro augment in if you wanted, or some ruby for extra dps.

If you're going to be necroing mobs, I wonder if using a weapon that curses/greater cursespewing them would be good? You'd be giving them -4 to their saves.

Actually, if you're going full out, why not get a whole bunch of swords? I'll go with the Longsword theme:

1. for undead: Epic Mournlode
2. for CC, FOM and doublestrike: Epic Timeblade
3. for dps: Tinah/Oathblade (if you have the spare coms, why not try it?)
4. for dps or CC + dr breaker: thunder-forged longsword. Tier 1-2 are pretty easy to make. They automatically come with an orange slot, break most DR, and have much higher dice than other weapons (3.5 for the base) so do pretty good dps, too. Check out what you can put on it, see if any of that interests you.
5. Extra saves (from lvl 26): Master's Riposte.

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BD_
11-14-2014, 12:44 PM
I made two of those Cannith challenge khopeshes - compared to Drow Khopesh of the Weapon Master, they are lackluster - esp. in EE content. The drow stuff gives very nice crit ranges, and much higher damage. Since he's using a shield, he very likely doesn't need to bother with CC.

Yes, for EE the house C khopesh isn't as good because everything will save vs paralyzing, but the icy burst + crushing wave still do ok dps - and keep in mind the rarity/ease of getting for a newer player vs that of a specific drow weapon master weapon. It's also ML 20. (Improved) Paralyzing is just so powerful if you're in any difficulty other than EE.


As for the Oathblade - just checked wiki says UMD 26 needed so I was little bit off there - but unless something is changed you only need that UMD to equip it - and once equipped you can continue to use it even if your UMD drops below that level - so you can have some UMD boosters that you put on to equip it then take them off. In my experience with a char that has both Tinah and Oathblade - if you're using getting planar conflux bonus and you have improved crit slashing, Tinah is slightly better than Oathblade in most situations. If you do not have IC - Oathblade is considerably better - and if you have IC but are not using a planar conflux bonus, Oathblade is slightly better than Tinah in most situations - Oathblade is also quite easy to get and ML 20.