+14 to charmed stats

[Theex]

If I get ench dc's upwards of 58-60, and go wiz wf magister grand summoner+aug summons, with 3 Druid pl's, anything I charm will be fairly strong. The question is, would it begood for soloing ee, and having everything fight each other? Also, does Harper tree summons bonus stack or replace aug summons?

[Thalone]

Epic enemies break out of charms very quickly (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Ward). I can't speak to the Harper tree as I've not yet played with it.

[LightBear]

Epic enemies break out of charms very quickly (http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Ward). I can't speak to the Harper tree as I've not yet played with it.
Not only that but with higher stats they should break free even quicker.

And I think shadow dancer is the ED for pupiters

[moo_cow]

If I get ench dc's upwards of 58-60, and go wiz wf magister grand summoner+aug summons, with 3 Druid pl's, anything I charm will be fairly strong. The question is, would it begood for soloing ee, and having everything fight each other? Also, does Harper tree summons bonus stack or replace aug summons?

Charm is just as useless as the old instakills in epics. Epics use to prevent any insta kill spells. Now basically a high dc charm last for 8-20 seconds. Terrible.

[Angelic-council]

Not only that but with higher stats they should break free even quicker.

And I think shadow dancer is the ED for pupiters

Never thought of that... Interesting. Can anyone confirm this to be true? that Druid past life "stat bonus" actually go towards charmed monsters save, or it works separately. I mean.. for someone who uses charm spells, this is a most useless past life feat then lol.. considering druids are part of heroic characters and requires you to have at least X1 of its life in order to aquire completionist feat.. -.-:

[fmalfeas]

Well, at least it doesn't make things worse in Hound of Xoriat! That puppycharm is just timered, no save allowed. So +14 to all stats (and Primal Avatar boosts) and whatever buffs you throw at them mainly serve to make them beat momma down faster. With enough of that, it becomes a joke to solo so long as the beholders don't free the puppies.

[janave]

Well, at least it doesn't make things worse in Hound of Xoriat! That puppycharm is just timered, no save allowed. So +14 to all stats (and Primal Avatar boosts) and whatever buffs you throw at them mainly serve to make them beat momma down faster. With enough of that, it becomes a joke to solo so long as the beholders don't free the puppies.

Tho it also becomes a joke when: that guard effect, a fury archer, a shuriken build furying or just that one spell. :D

Why do it in 6 minutes when you can do it in 2 where 1 is buffing?