Maximum doublestrike

[Singular]

I'm trying to work out maximum double strike for my twf. Most of this is from Grailhawk:

S&B:

15% Gear (Bastard Sword Forgot the name)
03% Artifact
08% Shield Mastery
07% Epic Shield Twist
19% Kensei
05% PTWF
03% Hail of Blows Twist
09% Epic Past lives (martial)
69% Total

TWF (non-bastard sword user):

08% Gear (bracers)
03% Artifact
19% Kensei
05% PTWF
03% Hail of Blows Twist
09% Epic Past lives (martial)

47% Total

Am I missing anything?

EDIT: the Battlerager's Harness adds +12% after being hit (45 secs duration), so you'd have 51% if you were a pure twf fighter.

[brucelee82]

If you are in divine crusader epic destiny you can get up to 60 more, temporarily. 50 from the activated skill that slowly decreases. 10 from the on critical hit stacking ability. Can't think of the names.

[nolifer1]

if u do doblestrke build this is very low , can add battlerager belt, divine crusader, wind stanse, and probly more stuff, firnd of mine, have +-150 i belive, check this build here https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/435435-Zeus-God-of-Thunder-and-Lightning?highlight=Zeus

[Lonnbeimnech]

If you do all that on a wolf form druid you can add 30% from druid double strike clicky, and another 50% from celerity.

In other words you can get well over 100%.

[Scrabbler]

TWF (non-bastard sword user):
08% Gear (bracers)
Equip Devourer's Reaping as a 14% Doublestrike item.


If you do all that on a wolf form druid you can add 30% from druid double strike clicky, and another 50% from celerity.
In other words you can get well over 100%.
Well of course temp boosts can get to over 100%. Ranger can do +90% with one button. (Above 100% doesn't give you a chance to triplestrike, although it should)

[Xianio]

if you're going to count 19% kensai then you should consider the 25% you can get from stalwart defenders t5. it's only up 50% of the time but it's pretty meaningful.

This puts it at 94%.

Then, if you put yourself in Divine Crusader (which, as a pure fighter, you should) getting 6 Celestial Fervor in every fighter is easy. That puts you at 100%.

That's how I got the number anyway.

[Singular]

Thanks for the replies everyone! Some interesting stuff to ponder.


if you're going to count 19% kensai then you should consider the 25% you can get from stalwart defenders t5. it's only up 50% of the time but it's pretty meaningful.

This puts it at 94%.

Then, if you put yourself in Divine Crusader (which, as a pure fighter, you should) getting 6 Celestial Fervor in every fighter is easy. That puts you at 100%.

That's how I got the number anyway.

That would be with shield equipped, right? At this point, I'm only interested in twf. No particular reason other than that I love the animation.

Thanks about DC - haven't capped my destinies yet, so I look forward to trying that one out. I'm currently running in LD and loving the intense dps output with a full stack of Blitz going. It's relatively easy to get one up in EE or soloing EH and basically impossible in EN because everything dies so fast.

[Blackheartox]

If you are doing 2 weapon fight you will want to splash ranger for more offstrike and thus you can get killer for 20% more dstrike.
Wyrm belt gives 12% dstrike buff.
You could me something centerd and get air stance.
It depends on build mainly, but highest you could get would be i assume some kind ranger monk smthn splash
Maybe possibly 15 palie 4 ranger 1 monk with 2 long or shorswords?

You get zeal wind stance killer that way.

I personally would drop monk for harmor tho and use better 1 handers /but option exists

[gzargel]

If you are doing 2 weapon fight you will want to splash ranger for more offstrike and thus you can get killer for 20% more dstrike.
Wyrm belt gives 12% dstrike buff.
You could me something centerd and get air stance.
It depends on build mainly, but highest you could get would be i assume some kind ranger monk smthn splash
Maybe possibly 15 palie 4 ranger 1 monk with 2 long or shorswords?

You get zeal wind stance killer that way.

I personally would drop monk for harmor tho and use better 1 handers /but option exists

I just built the 15/4/1 split today. I didn't take any enhancement tree to tier 5. It felt kind of dirty......

[cru121]

warchanter has 6% doublestrike / doubleshot (Music bonus) in T4. AoE
swashbuckler has 5% in cores, 30% action boost, and 10% for having empty offhand (not sure about type for this one)

[Saekee]

Ninja tier 5 gives shadow double, 100% doublestrike for 6 seconds, 30 sec cooldown, just uses ki. Just something to consider if you are doing Monk and the wind stance doublestrike.

[Jatner]

Is there any point to getting doublestrike over 100%?

Surely at that point you are getting a double strike on every hit so anything above that is wasted

[Blackheartox]

Is there any point to getting doublestrike over 100%?

Surely at that point you are getting a double strike on every hit so anything above that is wasted

No point at all

[Bargol]

No point at all

Skimming through this thread I was thinking the same thing.

Its like the guys who used to brag they had an 80 jump.

[Powskier]

Is there any point to getting doublestrike over 100%?

Surely at that point you are getting a double strike on every hit so anything above that is wasted

yea, my 20% dbblstrike goes off like mad...I get it up to 28% or so a little higher.It is easy to notice with anvil of thunder strike,big sonic 100s or 150s over enemy head;well over 1/2 the time,it shows twice in damage.....Curious if offhand and dbbl work at same time???.....i'm rather certain i seen four sets of sonic damage #s on some strikes.

[Powskier]

Skimming through this thread I was thinking the same thing.

Its like the guys who used to brag they had an 80 jump.

he.he ,shows real lack of knowledge in game to say you have over 40 jump

[Powskier]

I want attack speed augments!

[painkiller3]

he.he ,shows real lack of knowledge in game to say you have over 40 jump

not true, what if you want max jump in sneak mode? ;)

[Powskier]

not true, what if you want max jump in sneak mode? ;)

does sneak mode reduce jump by 40?

[Lonnbeimnech]

Is there any point to getting doublestrike over 100%?

Surely at that point you are getting a double strike on every hit so anything above that is wasted

However, having a decent base double strike, and multiple ways to boost it. You could use all the boosts at the same time just for a sceernshot, or you can use one when the previous one wore off to keep it fairly consistently at or around 100%.

[Dreppo]

does sneak mode reduce jump by 40?

It effectively reduced jump by 20. To maximize jump in sneak mode you'd need a jump of 60.

[Nickademus]

Then, if you put yourself in Divine Crusader (which, as a pure fighter, you should) getting 6 Celestial Fervor in every fighter is easy.

Has something changed? When last I checked (which was a handful of days ago) Celestial Fervor was actually a loss in doublestrike since it is bugged and suppresses some, but not all, other forms of doublestrike. I remember that Zeal worked with it but any doublestrike from gear vanished until the Celestial Fervor wore off.

I'll check again when I'm in game in a bit.

[the_one_dwarfforged]

dc doublestrike buff doesnt stack with gear, since they both give enhancement bonuses.

you can actually get 12% on items from ragers harness as a non bastard sword user, not just 8%.

[Nickademus]

dc doublestrike buff doesnt stack with gear, since they both give enhancement bonuses.

you can actually get 12% on items from ragers harness as a non bastard sword user, not just 8%.

Not what I'm talking about. I've watched the math and even when the DC bonus to doublestrike is less than my gear bonus (both enhancement), the full bonus of the gear disappears.

For instance, if I have a +6% doublestrike item on and nothing else contributing to doublestrike, the character sheet UI will show 6% for my doublestrike chance. I then attack something and crit, gaining a +1% bonus from DC's Celestial Fervor. If I look at my character sheet now (before the stack expires) it shows 1% doublestrike. It should show 6% since the gear bonus is higher than the DC bonus but instead the entire gear bonus is suppressed and only the bonus from DC is applied. The bonus grows and shrinks with the stacks of Celestial Fervor until the last stack wears off, at which point my character sheet goes back to saying 6% doublestrike.

[the_one_dwarfforged]

Not what I'm talking about. I've watched the math and even when the DC bonus to doublestrike is less than my gear bonus (both enhancement), the full bonus of the gear disappears.

For instance, if I have a +6% doublestrike item on and nothing else contributing to doublestrike, the character sheet UI will show 6% for my doublestrike chance. I then attack something and crit, gaining a +1% bonus from DC's Celestial Fervor. If I look at my character sheet now (before the stack expires) it shows 1% doublestrike. It should show 6% since the gear bonus is higher than the DC bonus but instead the entire gear bonus is suppressed and only the bonus from DC is applied. The bonus grows and shrinks with the stacks of Celestial Fervor until the last stack wears off, at which point my character sheet goes back to saying 6% doublestrike.

thats really weird and doesnt happen to me.

[Oxarhamar]

does sneak mode reduce jump by 40?

no but, other things easily could cripple your jump.

Disjunction of a STR item, Neg Levels, Stat damage, various other debuffs I am sure I'm missing.

Point being if you want MAX sometimes you need to go beyond to reach it 100% of the time.


Similar thing could be said for 100% now that we have mobs that bypass fort more often more than 100% fort is needed to resist Critical hits.