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Estel_Randir
10-25-2014, 05:48 PM
"Upgradeable - Tier 3
Insightful Intelligence +2 ? Insightful Intelligence +3
Open Lock +15 ? Open Lock +20
Use Magical Device +4 ? Enhanced Use Magical Device +4
Adds Green Augment Slot"
Can someone explain this part?: "Use Magical Device +4 ? Enhanced Use Magical Device +4"
Does this mean that the item would have +8 to UMD if you had no other spell like effect to "enhance UMD"?
Sushiboat
10-25-2014, 05:54 PM
"Upgradeable - Tier 3
Insightful Intelligence +2 ? Insightful Intelligence +3
Open Lock +15 ? Open Lock +20
Use Magical Device +4 ? Enhanced Use Magical Device +4
Adds Green Augment Slot"
Can someone explain this part?: "Use Magical Device +4 ? Enhanced Use Magical Device +4"
Does this mean that the item would have +8 to UMD if you had no other spell like effect to "enhance UMD"?
The Tier 2 version has "Use Magical Device +4" which grants a +4 competence bonus to UMD.
When you upgrade to Tier 3, you lose that and gain "Enhanced Use Magical Device +4" which grants a +4 enhancement bonus to UMD.
With no other items/bonuses to UMD (i.e. looking at the Spyglass in a vacuum), you get zero net gain in UMD.
However, there are multiple sources of competence bonuses (http://ddowiki.com/page/Use_Magical_Device#Sources_of_UMD). Enhancement bonuses are much harder to come by (and they do stack with competence bonuses). If you can get a different source of competence bonus to UMD, the Tier 3 spyglass basically gives you a stacking +4 to UMD.
Estel_Randir
10-25-2014, 06:21 PM
Ahh so by making it "enhanced UMD" instead of normal + to UMD, this allows the spyglass UMD bonus to stack with a "normal" UMD item.
Thanks for the reply
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