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Chauncey1
10-22-2014, 10:18 PM
My lvl 24 cleric (1st lifer) needs some new armor. He doesn't do any combat at all...If I can remember to not actually start swinging at mobs that is...
Anyway...should I go for the blue or white dragon plate from GH?

Thanks in advance.

Rykka
10-22-2014, 11:12 PM
My lvl 24 cleric (1st lifer) needs some new armor. He doesn't do any combat at all...If I can remember to not actually start swinging at mobs that is...
Anyway...should I go for the blue or white dragon plate from GH?

Thanks in advance.

I'm not a fan of Blue's universal bonuses and thought the consolidation of defensive bonuses on the White were more useful. White is less impressive with a shield user though. Better with sticks or a staff.

Chauncey1
10-22-2014, 11:21 PM
I'm not a fan of Blue's universal bonuses and thought the consolidation of defensive bonuses on the White were more useful. White is less impressive with a shield user though. Better with sticks or a staff.

I do use a shield, but can use sticks or a staff. This is my first cleric, so I'm just wanting to try and keep him useful as he gets into higher level content. I actually took him into some EE stuff recently and he did much better that I thought he would...but it was made clear to me that he needs upgrades.

I've not run this toon for a long time, but the guild he's in now has very few clerics over lvl 20. So I gotta get him pimped out.

Azarddoze
10-22-2014, 11:26 PM
I think it really depends on wether or not you have the option to slot those bonuses elsewhere. It's really a puzzle in the end to come up with the most effective set.

I usually go with the blue one with any caster at 25, knowing that I might swap it here and there depending on what I would wear later on. I feel like the white one, unless you might use it in a future life, gives nothing that really makes an impactful difference as a cleric other than heavy fort. On the other end, it has all the armor bonuses stacked in one piece which makes it an interresting option as well. Maybe even more since the AC changes.

Usually you'll want more than the bonus offered by the blue dragon plate on your primary elements anyway... so it makes it worse as you level up and not even optimal at level. Missing on spell power is worse than a couple of AC.

Maybe there is a better option as well if you're not yet convinced, although I can't recall right now.

Rykka
10-22-2014, 11:51 PM
I do use a shield, but can use sticks or a staff. This is my first cleric, so I'm just wanting to try and keep him useful as he gets into higher level content. I actually took him into some EE stuff recently and he did much better that I thought he would...but it was made clear to me that he needs upgrades.

I've not run this toon for a long time, but the guild he's in now has very few clerics over lvl 20. So I gotta get him pimped out.

Well I only have one White and Black set made (on different characters, white was on a cleric) and was happy with them. It's just what I chose tho. Blue gives an "OK" bonus to prettymuch everything spellcasting but I swap out leveled casting items constantly, so to my mind it would benefit most if you are spamming different school spells faster than you can swap items. Or if you've found it easier to have leveled defensive slotted items than casting items, which is also relevant on first life characters.

I haven't bothered to make a blue yet since I can move scales around to other characters, but the armor is BTCoA.

DougGlyndwyr
10-23-2014, 12:00 AM
Niether, they're both rubbish. You're better off staying with Amanator for those bonuses, or trying (and it is difficult) for Cormyrian Green, if you must run dragon armour. That said, I have a good 16 active toons, and only the Barb runs dragon armour, and it's black.

kmoustakas
10-23-2014, 12:09 AM
I'm not quite there yet with my healbot cleric but the way I see it I would be going either Cavalry plate or terrorweb breastplate for the wisdom bonus.

SirValentine
10-23-2014, 04:53 AM
Wasn't really that impressed with the Tor armors. I use Leaves of the Forest on my Cleric while in the level 23-27 range. Then Shadowscale at cap.

Miow
10-23-2014, 05:26 AM
I'm not quite there yet with my healbot cleric but the way I see it I would be going either Cavalry plate or terrorweb breastplate for the wisdom bonus.

My choice would be this...insight +3 wis

Chauncey1
10-23-2014, 08:14 AM
I've already got the Epic Cavalry plate, it's really quite good armor, but it's only lvl 20.
And I don't have the Amanator armor. That's from the ES cleric vendor right?
I've not run much ES on this toon.

patang01
10-23-2014, 10:37 AM
My lvl 24 cleric (1st lifer) needs some new armor. He doesn't do any combat at all...If I can remember to not actually start swinging at mobs that is...
Anyway...should I go for the blue or white dragon plate from GH?

Thanks in advance.

If you're not going for the set bonus there's always the MOTU armor. That way you can get the stat bonus you desire on the armor instead of having it taken up by the dragon helmet. And if you're not really going for maximum PRR or MRR there's no real reason to look at dragon armor per say.

I'd do blue for a caster build do and black for melee. The white is nice but it's harder to get good helmet combos with it and protection wise it's a minuscule bump that you can't already substitute with some items or augments.

janave
10-23-2014, 12:15 PM
Being a pure healbot cleric you probably dont benefit much from Blue set, basically if you are wisdom based you have pretty good alternatives.

I just cant imagine a cleric not doing any combat since they are really good at that now. An occasional implosion or destruct, or just spamming avenging light is really useful. You can contribute a lot more to your parties since most people these days self heal.

What i notice on my FVS AoV is that 2-3 heals and several cocoon is all i need to throw on my party members per quest, and i dont even care to switch to my healing weapon set half the time. I play mostly EEs, tho i rarely see new people in my groups, they might benefit from a dedicated healer i guess

For raids, a more durable cleric is always good, i often see clerics entering Sentinel, and grab a shield for raids.

EllisDee37
10-23-2014, 12:42 PM
My cleric wears blue that I fully upgraded a while ago, before the severe nerf to arcane lore. Now blue is kind of crappy, so the next step will be switching to thunderforge.

Aletys
10-23-2014, 12:45 PM
I have a healbot/casting cleric:

Go with the Clerics of Amaunator set till you get to level 22 (not 23), then you can add in the Terrorweb Chitin Breastplate to the Cleric set to get the power store (magical efficiency) bonus with better stats. Alternatively, if you have enough green dragon scales, get the green dragonscale medium armor at level 23. It has nice stats, including power store) & allows you to put better items in the necklace & ring slots as you go up in level. At level 26 I added some Thunder-forged scepters to up her evocation & devotion stats.

Once my cleric hit level 27, I put her in the Epic Emerald Guard heavy armor (the green dragonscale just wasn't cutting it in the MoD raid), and geared her primarily with epic orchard items, though I'm keeping the Orcish Privateer boots on for the fire resistance & absorption. You can get the Epic Fanged Gloves to give her the magical efficiency.

I did try the Thunder-forged armor on her, but it's just not as good as the Epic Emerald Guard on her. She gets much higher fortification & MRR/PRR with the Emerald Guard combined with the Epic Minos Legens, the AC is better, & the other stats are nice as well. She also gets to keep some dodge (which goes to zero with the Thunder-forged). I added a Sapphire of Armored Agility +2 to the Emerald Guard in order to up the dex bonus & get an additional 2 dodge (gives her 6 dodge total). I'll probably add a sapphire of protection when I have enough mats to do the second upgrade on the armor.