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Failedlegend
10-20-2014, 10:06 AM
Basically I'm looking at the following

Improved critical:This feat doubles the threat range of a weapon type
GM of Earth: The critical multiplier of all weapons you use is increased by 1 on rolls of a natural 19 or 20
Overwhelming Critical: When rolling a 19 or 20 on an attack with any weapons used by the character, your critical damage multiplier is increased by +1
Henshin Staff Specialization: You gain a +1 Competence bonus to Critical Damage Multiplier and Threat Range with quarterstaves.
Celestial Champion : +1 Critical Threat Range with all weapons
Rogue Sly Flourish: Melee Attack: Deals +0.5/+1/+1.5[W] damage with +1/+2/+3 critical threat range

Way of the Elegant Crane: Generate 1 additional Ki on critical hits. (2 @ 6, 3 @ 9, 4@15)

So if my math is correct for a Q-staff wielding monk that has all the above he would have a base crit range of 17-20/x4 and 19-20/x5 generating 1-4 additionally ki on every crit? (14-20/x3 when using sly flrouish)

Math

Base 20/x2
+ IC = 19-20/x2
+GM of Earth = 19-20/x3
+OC = 19-20/x4
+HSS = 19-20/x5 & 18/x4
+CC = 19-20/x5 & 17-18/x4
+RSF = 19-20/x5 & 14-18/x4

+1-4 on attack roll of 14-20 (/2 = 7-10 = 30% chance to generate ki when using Sly flourish)

Also did I miss any crit theat/multipliers that a Monk14/Rogue3/Sorc3 Q-staff user would have access to

Krelar
10-20-2014, 10:15 AM
Celestial Champion is actually applied to weapons before improved critical so it is effectively +2 to critical range as long as you have the feat. (I don't know if this is true of any of the other abilities)

cru121
10-20-2014, 10:22 AM
Can this help you?
http://ddowiki.com/page/Threat_range#Ways_to_increase_threat_range

Failedlegend
10-20-2014, 10:31 AM
Can this help you?
http://ddowiki.com/page/Threat_range#Ways_to_increase_threat_range

Hm....

IC: Bludgeoning = Stacks with everything except keen/impact
Henshin Staff Specialization = Competence bonus
Celestial Champion = Sacred Bonus
Rogue Sly Flourish = Active attack which apparently stacks with everything (presumably typed "active")


GM of Earth & Overwhelming Critical are unfortunately unlisted


Celestial Champion is actually applied to weapons before improved critical so it is effectively +2 to critical range as long as you have the feat. (I don't know if this is true of any of the other abilities)

I SO wish Lama was up right now so I could just test these abilities out myself but **** Celestial champion just got even better :)

cru121
10-20-2014, 10:32 AM
all effects that increase your crit modifier on 19-20 stack

Failedlegend
10-20-2014, 10:45 AM
all effects that increase your crit modifier on 19-20 stack

How would this all interact with Sireth's 18-20 base threat range?

Like this?

Base 18-20/x2
+IC = 17-20/x2
+GM of Earth = 17-20/x3
+OC = 17-20/x4
+HSS = 19-20/x5 & 16-18/x4
+CC = 19-20/x5 & 15-18/x4
+RSF = 19-20/x5 & 12-18/x4

unbongwah
10-20-2014, 11:08 AM
+GM of Earth = 17-20/x3
+OC = 17-20/x4
The +1 19-20 crit multiplier bonuses are always only on 19-20. So this would be 17-18 x2 19-20 x4.

Effectively you can have up to 3 such bonuses: one from Overwhelming Crit, one from either Earth stance or barb enh (Focused Wrath or Bond of Retribution), and one from T6 ED abilities (Headman's Chop in LD or Nature's Fury in PA). These will stack with any competence bonus to crit multiplier you have too.

ETA: so for Sireth:
18-20 x2 base
17-20 x3 Staff Spec
16-20 x3 Celestial Champion
11-20 x3 IC:Blunt
11-18 x3 19-20 x4 Overwhelming Crit
11-18 x3 19-20 x5 Master/GM Earth stance

Anyone see an error in my numbers?

ETA 2: I don't know if Sly Flourish's +3 crit range is applied before or after Imp Crit; I also don't know what if anything it stacks with.

Krelar
10-20-2014, 11:16 AM
How would this all interact with Sireth's 18-20 base threat range?

Like this?

Base 18-20/x2
+IC = 17-20/x2
+GM of Earth = 17-20/x3
+OC = 17-20/x4
+HSS = 19-20/x5 & 16-18/x4
+CC = 19-20/x5 & 15-18/x4
+RSF = 19-20/x5 & 12-18/x4

IC doubles your critical range so 18-20 would become 15-20 which would then become 13-20 with CC. Then either 12-20 or 11-20 depending on if HSS applies before or after IC.

Erofen
10-20-2014, 11:29 AM
How would this all interact with Sireth's 18-20 base threat range?

Like this:

Base 18-20/x2
+IC = 15-20/x2
+GM of Earth = 19-20/x3
+OC = 19-20/x4 & 15-20/x3
+HSS = 19-20/x5 & 13-18/x4
+CC = 19-20/x5 & 11-18/x4
+RSF = 19-20/x5 & 5-18/x4
Pretty sure this is how it works.

Erofen
10-20-2014, 11:34 AM
Afaik IC doubles all, but does not stack with keen.