Mark of Death - Deathknight DR?

[Bridge_Dweller]

What breaks this besides Celestias?

Has anyone figure out the amount the DKs have on each difficulty?

[Eth]

Well, I know that my Thunderforged Warhammers that have Good-bypass slotted into them don't break it.
If those don't, I don't know what would. I don't expect piercing or slashing to have any effect here. Other alignment bypasses might be worth a try.
But I guess it's just DR/-.

DR itself seems to be quite high on EE.
From rewatching sestras footage (since I couldn't take my melee into EE yet), it looks like something around 100.

Maybe just go with Tes' approach. Highest possible crit. range + exalted angel.
1K extra damage on every crit. is hard to beat.
Impr. crit. slashing + Holy sword + Drow Scimitar/Epic Mirage = 9-20 / x3

[Vanhooger]

Just a guess, could be silver?

I'm using thunderforged too, with good and lawful but they still have damage reduction.

[Eth]

Just a guess, could be silver?


Thunderforged bypasses all metal DRs (Silver, Adamantine, Mithral, Cold Iron, Byeshk) - so no.

[Vanhooger]

Thunderforged bypasses all metal DRs (Silver, Adamantine, Mithral, Cold Iron, Byeshk) - so no.
Sorry forgot about silver was included in metalline lol

[Nickademus]

Thunderforged bypasses all metal DRs (Silver, Adamantine, Mithral, Cold Iron, Byeshk) - so no.

Thunderforged are missing crystal, though I doubt they require it.

The DR is probably #/- of a kind like barbarians and elementals. I'll test Chaotic+Good next time I'm in there but right now I'm Coving.

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Maybe just go with Tes' approach. Highest possible crit. range + exalted angel.
1K extra damage on every crit. is hard to beat.
Impr. crit. slashing + Holy sword + Drow Scimitar/Epic Mirage = 9-20 / x3
How is Exalted Angel giving 1k?

[Eth]

How is Exalted Angel giving 1k?

When you are in angelic form every vorpal hit has extra light damage (750 average I think).
However when used against undead you get this proc on every critical.
1000 is not out of the box, but already counted with vulnerability stacks, which you will usually see in a raid environment on a boss.
It always had those effects, it just never made it into the description, but was kind of clarified in U15.2.

From U15 Patch 2 Release notes:
Exalted Angel: Ascendance now does what it says, and also says what it already did and still does. You still gain temporary HP sometimes when you smite things, you are an Angel Outsider, your character's health doesn't matter for Astral Vibrance or Angelic Prescence, and Astral Vibrance still doesn't cost SP while you are an Angel. Now you also properly sometimes grant temporary HP when casting healing spells on allies, and sometimes gain temporary SP when casting light spells on enemies. The text also now tells you what it was already secretly doing, which is that you deal extra light damage on vorpal hits, and even more light damage on critical hits against undead, and your unarmed attacks deal light damage instead of bludgeon. The end.

[Bridge_Dweller]

. . . it looks like something around 100.

That's about what I'm guessing, and Celestias cut right through it.

[Bridge_Dweller]

Maybe just go with Tes' approach. Highest possible crit. range + exalted angel.
1K extra damage on every crit. is hard to beat.
Impr. crit. slashing + Holy sword + Drow Scimitar/Epic Mirage = 9-20 / x3

Being in LD with something that breaks the DR does more damage than an ED with no melee power, anecdotally speaking based on agro pulls.

I'm sure somebody who believes in Math can present some numbers.

[Eth]

That's about what I'm guessing, and Celestias cut right through it.

How do you even manage to have a playable character that doesn't break celestias light damage? :P

[Bridge_Dweller]

How do you even manage to have a playable character that doesn't break celestias light damage? :P

Cheating, lots and lots of cheating.

[Eth]

Btw. that last line I quoted from the U15.2 release notes on angelic form look like another way to bypass the DR too, I guess. Can any monk confirm this?

...your unarmed attacks deal light damage instead of bludgeon.

[Eth]

Being in LD with something that breaks the DR does more damage than an ED with no melee power, anecdotally speaking based on agro pulls.

I'm sure somebody who believes in Math can present some numbers.

Well, EA will definitely drop miles behind as soon as your stance ends. It's only 2 out of every 5 minutes + 2 minutes every 10 minutes from the epic moment.
Considering the raid is a non-stop beatdown, this certainly plays a role.

[Blackheartox]

Well, EA will definitely drop miles behind as soon as your stance ends. It's only 2 out of every 5 minutes + 2 minutes every 10 minutes from the epic moment.
Considering the raid is a non-stop beatdown, this certainly plays a role.

Its enough for en braindead farm, use 1 while preping dknight and moment during dkight in mid phase and again regular one during last fight..

Il test the light dam on wraps, i mean im playing a wolf but wolf form is coded same as monk unarmed

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Well, EA will definitely drop miles behind as soon as your stance ends. It's only 2 out of every 5 minutes + 2 minutes every 10 minutes from the epic moment.
Considering the raid is a non-stop beatdown, this certainly plays a role.

2wf, pally using lv 18 capstone with drow scimitars in EA epic moment then?

[Bridge_Dweller]

2wf, pally using lv 18 capstone with drow scimitars in EA epic moment then?

If you don't have Celestias it's looking that way. If you have them LD or DC is looking better.

Only thing that sucks is you have to re-slot devotion when switching or your cures/heals won't do squat.

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If you don't have Celestias it's looking that way. If you have them LD or DC is looking better.

Only thing that sucks is you have to re-slot devotion when switching or your cures/heals won't do squat.

Devotion on trinket- Shamanic Fetish or FoT gloves will break Celestia?

[Bridge_Dweller]

Devotion on trinket- Shamanic Fetish or FoT gloves will break Celestia?

Switched to the 144 Devotion helm (whatever the helm it's called) for this raid as the Dragon masque's negative energy damage hjeals the Abbot too much anyway.

[Eth]

Switched to the 144 Devotion helm (whatever the helm it's called) for this raid as the Dragon masque's negative energy damage hjeals the Abbot too much anyway.

You need at least one more swap for deadly then. And then you ask for 15 minutes why you are missing some HP.

[Blackheartox]

Just to verify, holy sword doesnt break celestia?
/option would be holycon boots for 80 spp, in case haste is available it might be ok i guess

[Eth]

Just to verify, holy sword doesnt break celestia?
/option would be holycon boots for 80 spp, in case haste is available it might be ok i guess

Haven't tested but holy sword should break celestia since it gives +2 enhancement bonus and everything that does that seems to break celestia.

[Bridge_Dweller]

You need at least one more swap for deadly then. And then you ask for 15 minutes why you are missing some HP.

You must have me mistaken for somebody else.

[Bridge_Dweller]

Just to verify, holy sword doesnt break celestia?
/option would be holycon boots for 80 spp, in case haste is available it might be ok i guess

Much to my surprise, Holy Sword DOES NOT break Celestia.

Devotion helm, switch to Random Gen Deadly cloak (or bracers, but I'm one of those dinosaurs who still uses Claw Set), leave on Innocent Boots.

[Eth]

Much to my surprise, Holy Sword DOES NOT break Celestia.

Devotion helm, switch to Random Gen Deadly cloak (or bracers, but I'm one of those dinosaurs who still uses Claw Set), leave on Innocent Boots.

Now I wished I hadn't trashed that helmet.

[Bridge_Dweller]

Now I wished I hadn't trashed that helmet.

it's about time you got on the Paladin bandwagon.

[Blackheartox]

Nope form doesnt give you dr bypass, but for speed builds like 2 weapon fight tempest, possibly staff builds and wolfs, maybe shurikens exalted is great for mark