Crafting with Master's Gift

[Vulkoorex]

What do I need to craft a ML1 ring BtA feather fall ring with a colorless slot for Master's gift? Is there something better than feather fall for a ML1 ring.

I have almost all the adventure packs.

I'm preparing for my TR.

Any advice is welcomed.

Thanks,
V.

[Thalone]

BtA blanks, as far as I can tell, have been completely removed from the loot tables. I have some BtA armours/shields with colourless slots from chain rewards such as STK/Waterworks/Threnal, but in many recent lives (I run almost all content over a TR), I have not seen them. I have never seen a nonarmour, nonshield BtA item with slots, though I hear rumours someone had a ring like that.

You can easily craft a BtC FF colourless-slotted ring. The enchantment is +1 and the slot is +2 for a total enchantment of +2, which, with Masterful Crafting, should be ML 1. However, I would not slot my Master's Gift on a FF item, as these are always swap items for me, so I could end up missing boosts to optional XPs. I use Axeblock/Invulnerability armours with the Gift starting at level 2 (I tend to use Daily Dice XP to skip level 1), and later on, put it on an always-equipped item like an energy resistance cloak or a CON item.

[Vulkoorex]

Thanks for responding and the advice.

How would I be able to craft gear for my other toons if the gear are BtC? I only have one toon with good crafting skills?

Does that mean I have to craft unbound gear and have my alt toons make their own master gift?

Sorry for the noob-ish questions.

Thanks,
V

[Thalone]

All bound Cannith-crafting shards are BtA: you can pass them through the shared bank. In addition, unbound shards can be traded, auctioned, or mailed.

For completely customised gear, each character will generally have to farm its own Voice/Mantle (Tokens are BtA). However, you can slot the Gift on BtA named gear and pass it through the shared bank. Many adventure chains give BtA named gear with slots as an end reward (e.g., see the wiki article for Tunnelworm Champion's Belt). If the named BtA item isn't terrible, you can freely share it between characters. I can't advise you on a selection there, as I typically use crafted gear for low levels and crafted/raid loot for upper ones.

You can also use a Jeweler's Toolkit from the DDO Store to remove an augment from your item, and in that way, pass the Gift between characters, but this gets expensive really quickly.

[TEcarson]

All unbound Cannith-crafting shards are BtA: you can pass them through the shared bank. In addition, unbound shards can be traded, auctioned, or mailed.



Bound shards are BtA...not unbound. :)

[Thalone]

Bound shards are BtA...not unbound. :)

Yes, I am a moron! Under -9000 DKPs for me.

[Vulkoorex]

Is the DDO store customizable trinket any good for this?

[Thalone]

Not for your purposes: they don't come with slots, and they're BtC.

Also, these trinkets are fairly common in chain reward lists and sometimes drop as random loot in chests (and are a random reward for the ice skating festival when it's up), so if you end up wanting to craft a custom trinket, you might want to save your TP. If you get a Shard of Power from the Vale raid (or Devil Assault, etc), you can also disjunct that and use it as a trinket.

[Vulkoorex]

Not for your purposes: they don't come with slots, and they're BtC.

Also, these trinkets are fairly common in chain reward lists and sometimes drop as random loot in chests (and are a random reward for the ice skating festival when it's up), so if you end up wanting to craft a custom trinket, you might want to save your TP. If you get a Shard of Power from the Vale raid (or Devil Assault, etc), you can also disjunct that and use it as a trinket.


Funny you should mention it. I got a Shard of Power on my 3rd run of Devils Assault EN. Is there a better use for the Shard rather than disjunction? I read it was a rare drop and don't want to waste it.

V.

[General_Gronker]

Funny you should mention it. I got a Shard of Power on my 3rd run of Devils Assault EN. Is there a better use for the Shard rather than disjunction? I read it was a rare drop and don't want to waste it.

V.

Well, there's the green steel items that need them. But other than that, no, there is not. So if you have all the GS you need, disjunct away.

[Ausdoerrt]

Only problem with disjuncting the Shard, unless they changed it, is that it only has 1 durability, and will thus break quite quickly/often. So you'll probably also have to invest in an addy ritual or three to make it useful.

[unbongwah]

Rather than farm for a BtA blank with a colorless augment, I ran Catacombs for Marguerite's Necklace (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Marguerite%27s_Necklace) and slotted it with Master's Gift. The downside is it's ML:3 so you can't use it for the first couple of levels; but it's way less of a PITA to acquire than the right BtA blank.

[Vulkoorex]

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Looking at wiki, there are a few items with ML: none. They are BtCoE in Kobold New Ringleader and Walk the Butcher's Path.

Maybe I'll do that instead of crafting.

As I understand it, I can slot Masters gift into the colorless slot and transfer them to my other toons since they are BtCoE.

V.

[unbongwah]

As I understand it, I can slot Masters gift into the colorless slot and transfer them to my other toons since they are BtCoE.
Master's Gift (http://ddowiki.com/page/Master%27s_Gift) is BtCoA, which means you can't pass it via your shared bank directly; instead, you have to slot it into a BtA item which remains BtA, then you can pass that item thru your bank. Hence why I went with Marguerite's.

[Vulkoorex]

Master's Gift (http://ddowiki.com/page/Master%27s_Gift) is BtCoA, which means you can't pass it via your shared bank directly; instead, you have to slot it into a BtA item which remains BtA, then you can pass that item thru your bank. Hence why I went with Marguerite's.

So if I slot Master's Gift into a BtCoE, the item then becomes a BtCoA?

That sucks.

I guess I'll go with Marguerite then.

Thanks.

V.

[Livmo]

I use several of these augments since they are easy to make; Voice of Master + Mantle of the Worldshaper +5 Epic Raid Tokens = Master's Gift.

Also, you all are on to something, but haven't quite pinned it down, yet. It has to do with slotting augments into items and BtC, BtA, BtCoE...

I like to slot my gifts into the Ring of the Bucaneeer and/or Spyglass from Crystal Cove.

[Vulkoorex]

I use several of these augments since they are easy to make; Voice of Master + Mantle of the Worldshaper +5 Epic Raid Tokens = Master's Gift.

Also, you all are on to something, but haven't quite pinned it down, yet. It has to do with slotting augments into items and BtC, BtA, BtCoE...

I like to slot my gifts into the Ring of the Bucaneeer and/or Spyglass from Crystal Cove.

Oh I intend to make lots of Masters gift to slot into items of varying levels. I was hoping to limit the number by sharing generic useful BtA gear with my alt toons.

:)

[PsychoBlonde]

Oh I intend to make lots of Masters gift to slot into items of varying levels. I was hoping to limit the number by sharing generic useful BtA gear with my alt toons.

:)

The master's gift augment PERMANENTLY binds any item TO CHARACTER. So there's really no point trying to finagle BTA items for it.

[Vulkoorex]

The master's gift augment PERMANENTLY binds any item TO CHARACTER. So there's really no point trying to finagle BTA items for it.

Why does DDO wiki say different?

[Thalone]

I have to pull this post out every time someone denies that Master's Gift can be BtAed:

Guess I've been hallucinating the past three lives...
http://i44.tinypic.com/2q0mwq9.png
Mass delusion, everyone! Hurry!

[TEcarson]

Yes, I am a moron! Under -9000 DKPs for me.

I knew what ya meant...it is just not what you typed. :)

[LordKalkin]

The master's gift augment PERMANENTLY binds any item TO CHARACTER. So there's really no point trying to finagle BTA items for it.

Or not.

The BTA of an item is not superseded.
I just put one into the black wolfskin cloak from splinter skull and its still BTA.
The cloak is a good slot for something to share between lower level toons.
In hindsight I need an ML3 item though.

[BD_]

Only problem with disjuncting the Shard, unless they changed it, is that it only has 1 durability, and will thus break quite quickly/often. So you'll probably also have to invest in an addy ritual or three to make it useful.

I've used Shards of Power as trinkets quite a bit and never had one "break" on me. Don't remember the durability though.

[Inoukchuk]

I've used Shards of Power as trinkets quite a bit and never had one "break" on me. Don't remember the durability though.

I have too, used to put one on each character for fire absorb items when a) shroud was basically end game and b) fire absorb was hard to get. They rarely broke, but it did happen sometimes.

[Saekee]

you can disjunct items with slots and slotted augments. I seem to recall that the slotted augments also stay intact. Is this correct?

[haulindonkey]

Or not.

The BTA of an item is not superseded.
I just put one into the black wolfskin cloak from splinter skull and its still BTA.
The cloak is a good slot for something to share between lower level toons.
In hindsight I need an ML3 item though.

You are correct, the BtA status of the original item is not changed after you slot the master's gift - therefore you are able to slot in a BtA item and trade it through the shared account bank. I've also used Margaurite's Necklace for this purpose myself.

[BD_]

you can disjunct items with slots and slotted augments. I seem to recall that the slotted augments also stay intact. Is this correct?

Yes

[thouston]

Rather than farm for a BtA blank with a colorless augment, I ran Catacombs for Marguerite's Necklace (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Marguerite%27s_Necklace) and slotted it with Master's Gift. The downside is it's ML:3 so you can't use it for the first couple of levels; but it's way less of a PITA to acquire than the right BtA blank.

brillant!

this appears to be a perfect BtA item for this purpose

+1 to you

[bsquishwizzy]

What do I need to craft a ML1 ring BtA feather fall ring with a colorless slot for Master's gift? Is there something better than feather fall for a ML1 ring.

I have almost all the adventure packs.

I'm preparing for my TR.

Any advice is welcomed.

Thanks,
V.

Looking things over a little on the wiki…you could always use the following no ML items:

1) Bronkarz's Cloak (and this is easy to get),

2) Shaagh's Helm, and this is good for a Fighter / Barb / Pally due to the Intimidate +7 (and is EASY to get on the AH / ASAH),

3) Bloodknuckle's Loincloth Waistband,

4) Gerard's Mail from the Catacombs and re-slot the blue augment.


I’m not sure these have no ML, as I seem to recall that the loincloth is a ML 2 (but I’m going from memory here), but I’m pretty sure their requirements are low.

Since level 1 goes REALLY fast, you might consider using ML 2 armor instead?
1) Armor of the Unknown Hero

2) Calamity's Carapace

3) Gnashtooth Piecemail Chain

4) Necromantic Robe

5) Robe of Duality – one of my favorites,

…or just about any named armor out of the Smuggler’s Warehouse, Seal of Shan-To Kor, or Catacombs quests (chains). I think colorless will go into any slot, so you could easily slot these items and move on.

Outside of that, your best bet is a blank ring with a colorless augment, and maybe feather fall., mainly because rings at lvl 1 – 3 as loot are a little on the rare side.

Edit: Honestly, crafting items with augment slots is only really viable on toons at around lvl 16, where the augment ML requirement becomes less of a problem, especially with Masterful Craftsmanship shards. But al low levels, it's sorta pointless to make anything useful. So stick with named items for augments, and use non-slotted blanks for Cannith Crafted items.

[Oxarhamar]

What do I need to craft a ML1 ring BtA feather fall ring with a colorless slot for Master's gift? Is there something better than feather fall for a ML1 ring.

I have almost all the adventure packs.

I'm preparing for my TR.

Any advice is welcomed.

Thanks,
V.

I slot it in a crafted gloves or a crafted cloak w/slot easy enough.

As far as featherfall... For me I would not combine masters gift with featherfall since I do not like having perm inset featherfall and I never remove my masters gift.

For levels 1-(?) I have masters gift slotted in a cloak with no enhancements on it at all ( not really losing out on much there)

Some few levels later (not sure of the ML off the top of my head) I use the gloves w/ Ranged Alacrity crafted on. For an INT specced repeater build not many amazing glove in the mid levels or sources of alacrity.

I would suggest finding the gear slot for your build that is the least painful to give up at LVL 1 and slap on Masters give in a blank then go crazy.


*In Epics I have Ring of Shadows w/ Masters Gift slotted.

**Tip run Delera's & Threnal every TR until you have a few masters gift to slot for different levels of game play without using jeweler a kits.

[Feralthyrtiaq]

BtA gear of all varieties has dropped for me as chain rewards from Threnal, Sentinels, Phiarlan Carnival, Red Fens, Delera's, Tangleroot, Sharn, Catacomb's, StK and I am sure their are others but I have not seen any "Old World" BtA Disjunctable/Cannith Craftable gear with an Augment Slot.

Iron Mitts are an option as they BtA but are ML24.

How long can it possibly take to run Threnal though...Mantle is a guaranteed drop and so is the Voice of the Master from Delera's.

I usually end up with an extra slot or 2 of some color and some unbound nice gear that gets slotted with something and passed between toons.

There are many options besides hunting unicorns.

[eachna_gislin]

What do I need to craft a ML1 ring BtA feather fall ring with a colorless slot for Master's gift? Is there something better than feather fall for a ML1 ring.

I have almost all the adventure packs.

I'm preparing for my TR.

Any advice is welcomed.

Thanks,
V.

You're not going to find a BTA accessory with a colorless slot. I find rings are the easiest to use, although if you could find a very low-level named trinket with a slot that would (obviously) work as well.

If you don't like featherfall, melee (or ranged) alacrity 10% is another good choice.

If you can't be bothered to craft something, a Jade Ring is ml 1 and has a colorless slot and +1 resistance. It's unbound until you slot the augment.

I'm going to the effort of farming two augments per toon. One for heroic gear, and one for epic gear. Ring of the Stalker (ML: 20) fits in a lot of builds.