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FAQ
08-06-2014, 03:10 PM
I've never run Monastery much, but today I decided to try and stealth it on normal difficulty just to see if I could solve the puzzle solo (current build is a rogue assassin). I always thought this quest was completely stealth-able.

My hide and move silently were 91 for the quest. As expected, almost all the quest was easily stealth'd. But I ran into somewhat of an issue at the boss: (this all happened without losing stealth).

I was sneaking by the wall in the corridor right before the boss when out of the blue Sannyasi made a bee-line strait for where I am. There was no detection warnings (no red eye indicating I was seen, no red lines indicating I was heard). I moved as he was coming and he went to where I had been.

I moved into the puzzle room and after a few seconds he started to run strait to me again, so I Shadow Jaunted out of my current position and ran up ramp to the high ground. After some time of swinging at nothing (maybe 10-15 seconds), Sannyasi starts to run up the ramp to where I am again. I jump down and the same scenario happens a couple more times until he bug's out on one of the ramps trying to go up, so I'm able to solve the puzzle easily.

But I found his behavior very weird: there were no detection indicators (I should hope not, on a normal level 17 quest with 91 Hide and MS!) but still he seemed to sense where I was. I can hardly imagine being able to solo this at level, especially on elite.

I found some old posts about Sannyasi and some type of trip-wire (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/340271-What-is-up-with-Sannyasi?p=4056336&viewfull=1#post4056336), super-acute echolocation (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/419210-AI-Awareness!?p=5031908&viewfull=1#post5031908) and some changes in mod 9 (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/193316-Monastery-Solo-N-H-E-Level-13-Rogue-Stealth?p=2324471&viewfull=1#post2324471).

My questions are, have you been able to stealth Sannyasi on elite at level? And should this be changed? (Not that it's the most relevant content).

TL;DR: Sannyasi has weird detection AI which seems to bypass stealth parameters.

FestusHood
08-06-2014, 03:16 PM
Did you remember to bathe?

FAQ
08-06-2014, 03:17 PM
Did you remember to bathe?

LOL forgot I had to be downwind from him!

ddorimble
08-06-2014, 03:22 PM
Sannyasi has weird detection AI which seems to bypass stealth parameters.

Indeed. Happened several years ago. Some lazy misguided anti-stealth implementation. Haven't really run it since because I like to solo and he's such a pain to keep off the puzzle alone.