Theorycrafting: Paladin and FVS lives gear and build...

[Todkaninchen]

I'm thinking about doing a completionist character and doing Paladin and FVS lives back to back. I'm really interested in trying to do so with (mostly) the same set of gear for both. Some key, personal requirements are:

1) Must be a halfling.
2) The FVS life will be a warpriest. (which means...)
3) Faith will be Sovereign Host for Paladin and FVS to use longswords.
4) I would prefer to be sword and board.
5) The maximum splash for either build will be 2 levels. (I don't have access to druid, I have all other classes.)
6) I would like to be able to solo most heroic quests (with or without a hire) and contribute to parties.
7) Don't really need an uber-tank or exceptional epic level build other than level 20-22-ish.

Given that, I'm looking for ideas for both builds and gearing.

I'll farm a Retribution (http://ddowiki.com/page/Retribution) craft a Triple Positive Green Steel Longsword, and have a Divine Vengeance (http://ddowiki.com/page/Divine_Vengeance), a Vengeful Protector shield (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Vengeful_Protector), enough relics and scales for sets of Gianthold Armors, a Light and Darkness (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Light_and_Darkness), and some other stuff on hand.

Suggestions as to a good set of overlapping gear would be great.

Note: The only divine I've ever played is a Warpriest Cleric... who happens to be Warforged. I have some mid-level Cannith crafting skills, and will plan on farming as much of the gear as I can before TRing. The only major packs I don't have are the Necro chain, VoN, Deleras, and the challenges...

The character in question will have 2 rogue past lives (for what it's worth) and a complete set of +3 attribute tomes.

Any suggestions, constructive advice, etc.?

(Once I get feedback here, I'll probably crosspost to the FVS forum if no on here suggests a good build for FVS as well.)

[unbongwah]

Any particular reason you want S&B? TWF or even SWF would be significantly better DPS - all the more important if you insist on using gimpy longswords. The survivability benefits from S&B don't really kick in until epics w/Legendary Shield Mastery, but I'm inferring you intend to HTR as soon as you hit lvl 20.

[Todkaninchen]

Any particular reason you want S&B? TWF or even SWF would be significantly better DPS - all the more important if you insist on using gimpy longswords. The survivability benefits from S&B don't really kick in until epics w/Legendary Shield Mastery, but I'm inferring you intend to HTR as soon as you hit lvl 20.

Good point.

I thought most of the defensive abilities in Paladin was sort of shield-centric. Also, even with the tomes and the 3rd life build points--wasn't sure there would be enough points in the kitty for STR, CON, and enough DEX for 2WF.

The reason for the longsword is primarily due to feat limitations, a few decent, named or craftable longswords, and the eventual FVS (maybe cleric life) where the faith weapon gets to add +5 to the enhancement bonus. (So, a Green steel long sword turns into a +10 weapon at level 12 or so on a warpriest.) The reason for it being a paladin requirement is to avoid having to farm 2 completely different sets of weapons and armors for the 2 (or 3) classes.

However, a 2WF build on a halfling would probably work okay for at least the first couple of 2HF feats. SWF might be interesting, but is there enough defensive ability to make it survivable?

And the intent would be to spend enough time in the epic levels to get at least 3rd tier in all the divine destinies and farm epic tokens. So, some epic stuff, but mostly heroic and not endgame.

[Todkaninchen]

So, this is my idea so far.


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Eyesblaze
Level 28 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(20 Paladin \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 404
Spell Points: 408
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 17
Will: 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 15 24
Dexterity 13 16
Constitution 14 17
Intelligence 8 11
Wisdom 12 15
Charisma 16 22

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28)
Balance 1 11
Bluff 3 14
Concentration 2 24
Diplomacy 3 14
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 3 14
Heal 5 33
Hide 1 15
Intimidate 3 14
Jump 2 17
Listen 1 12
Move Silently 1 13
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 8
Search -1 8
Spellcraft -1 8
Spot 1 10
Swim 2 15
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Agility
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Bravery
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Keen Ears
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Luck
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Size Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Thrown Weapon Focus
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Armor Mastery (Rank 1)


Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Grace
Feat: (Automatic) Lay on Hands
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Health
Feat: (Automatic) Fear Immunity
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)


Level 5 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
Feat: (Automatic) Remove Disease
Feat: (Automatic) Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)


Level 7 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Shield Mastery (Rank 1)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 3)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 3)


Level 10 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Armor Mastery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Armor Mastery (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Shield Mastery (Rank 2)


Level 11 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Shield Mastery (Rank 3)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Redemption (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Swift Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 1)


Level 13 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)


Level 14 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 2)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Deflection
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Outsiders (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 3)


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Sealed Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Reinforced Armor (Rank 1)


Level 17 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Reinforced Armor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Reinforced Armor (Rank 3)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Tower Shield Proficiency
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Glorious Stand (Rank 1)


Level 19 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 3)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Champion of Good (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Instinctive Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Instinctive Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Instinctive Defense (Rank 3)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Guardian Angel




How badly have I messed this up?

Are there any obvious screw ups/omissions/sins?

It's not a maxed shield build, takes a good selection of both trees. Should be sword and board with cleave/great cleave/power attack.

Note: There's no intimidation (-4 to halfling intim kind of makes that questionable) or actually threat generation (which I shouldn't need if I'm either soloing or DPSing enough).

So...

[Todkaninchen]

The post-Paladin life should be:


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
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Eyeshine
Level 28 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(20 Favored Soul \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 379
Spell Points: 2460
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 15
Will: 17

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28) (Level 28)
Strength 13 23 23
Dexterity 10 13 13
Constitution 14 17 19
Intelligence 12 15 15
Wisdom 13 16 16
Charisma 17 20 20

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28) (Level 28)
Balance 0 1 12
Bluff 3 5 13
Concentration 6 27 38
Diplomacy 3 5 13
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 3 5 13
Heal 5 26 39
Hide 0 1 13
Intimidate 3 5 16
Jump 1 19 32
Listen 1 3 13
Move Silently 0 1 11
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 1 2 10
Search 1 2 10
Spellcraft 5 25 33
Spot 1 3 11
Swim 1 6 14
Tumble n/a n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a n/a

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Heal (+4)
Skill: Spellcraft (+4)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Agility
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Bravery
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Keen Ears
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Luck
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Size Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Thrown Weapon Focus
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Spell (1): Nimbus of Light
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Automatic) Child of the Sovereign Host
Spell (1): Protection from Evil
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Resilience of Battle (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 3)


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Smite Weakness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Burden of Sin (Rank 1)


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Unyielding Sovereignty
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Sanctuary (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Burden of Sin (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Ameliorating Strike (Rank 1)


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (2): Aid
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Burden of Sin (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Light Guard (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (4): Panacea
Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Light Guard (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Light Guard (Rank 3)


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
Spell (2): Deific Vengeance
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (4): Death Ward
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Halfling - Nimble Reaction (Rank 1)


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Enhancement: Halfling - Lesser Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Break Out The Leeches (Rank 1)


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (3): Glyph of Warding
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (5): True Seeing
Enhancement: Halfling - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Halfling - Nimble Reaction (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Halfling - Greater Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Beloved of the Sovereign Host
Spell (6): Heal
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - War Domain: Blur (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Vessel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wrathful Weapons (Rank 1)


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (4): Restoration
Spell (5): Divine Punishment
Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Power (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Vessel (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Vessel (Rank 3)


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (7): Spell Resistance, Mass
Enhancement: Halfling - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Magic Backlash (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Magic Backlash (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Magic Backlash (Rank 3)


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Spell (5): Cure Light Wounds, Mass
Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion
Spell (7): Protection from Elements, Mass
Enhancement: Halfling - Nimble Reaction (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Font of Power (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Intervention (Rank 1)


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (8): Death Ward, Mass
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Smiting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Inquisition (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Inquisition (Rank 2)


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Leap Of Faith
Spell (7): Greater Restoration
Spell (8): Fire Storm
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Angelic Resistance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Inquisition (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Articles of Faith (Rank 1)


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
Spell (9): Heal, Mass
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Angelic Resistance (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Angelic Resistance (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - War Domain: Haste (Rank 1)


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (8): Summon Monster VIII
Spell (9): True Resurrection
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Shield of Condemnation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Aura of Menace (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 3)


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Deity) Favored Soul Damage Reduction: Silver
Spell (9): Summon Monster IX
Enhancement: Halfling - Bold (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Smiting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Implacable Foe (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Augment Summoning


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Guardian Angel




Additionally, same sword and board with longswords, primarily melee with ameliorating strike as the primary HP maintenance tool with probably middling-fair heals.

[the_one_dwarfforged]

1) unless you are doing it strictly for the flavor, i would totally ditch longswords and snb. the defensive benefit is fine, but unnecessary for heroics, especially when it means trading dps as well as using a longsword, which is a terrible weapon. +5 hit/dmg is not better than a falchion or khopesh or bastard sword even in heroics (by lvl 12 as you say, at least).

2) unless you are doing it strictly for the flavor, i wouldnt do pure on a tr build. the more powerful abilities (in theory...) you gain are gained last, and used the least amount of time, so why bother? splashing something like fighter or paladin would add greatly to your fvs by increasing number of feats or increasing saves, as well as granting full martial proficiency so you can use whatever weapon is best for you at any level without worry. also evasion is easy to splash for and will make heroics ridiculously easy, but isnt really that necessary after a couple trs when you know the quests inside and out. however if soloing most of the time its probably the number one thing id want in a tr build.

so, outside of reading long sword, snd, and seeing pure classes, looks like you want to tr with flavor builds. can/will/has been done, but its just making more work for yourself if you want that past life sooner than later.

[unbongwah]

5) The maximum splash for either build will be 2 levels. (I don't have access to druid, I have all other classes.)
This seems like an odd restriction. Do you really want the lvl 18 core enhs - or lvl 9 spells in the case of FvS - or is it just a self-imposed constraint?

I don't know why you put so many pts into WIS on either build: you're not a DC caster and the bonus to Will saves doesn't merit it, IMHO.

[Todkaninchen]

1) unless you are doing it strictly for the flavor, i would totally ditch longswords and snb. the defensive benefit is fine, but unnecessary for heroics, especially when it means trading dps as well as using a longsword, which is a terrible weapon. +5 hit/dmg is not better than a falchion or khopesh or bastard sword even in heroics (by lvl 12 as you say, at least).

I was expecting to run with something like http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Threnalian_War_Blade with the odd damage die or http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Flametongue or http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Xoriat_Forged_Blade at low levels and things like greensteel blades and alchemical blades at higher levels. The dice on the named ones--which I have unbound versions of right now--make them almost like bastard swords minus the glancing blows. That and both builds are built to spam cleaves and cleave-like attacks...

(I wouldn't mind a Dragon Sword of Acid, but I don't have that pack yet.)

Again, it's mostly because of the faith-based benefits. I believe the boosts are more than the +5 attack/damage from raising the enhancement bonus on FVS with the various autogrants, but I can see where it might be less optimal for a Paladin though.


2) unless you are doing it strictly for the flavor, i wouldnt do pure on a tr build. the more powerful abilities (in theory...) you gain are gained last, and used the least amount of time, so why bother? splashing something like fighter or paladin would add greatly to your fvs by increasing number of feats or increasing saves, as well as granting full martial proficiency so you can use whatever weapon is best for you at any level without worry. also evasion is easy to splash for and will make heroics ridiculously easy, but isnt really that necessary after a couple trs when you know the quests inside and out. however if soloing most of the time its probably the number one thing id want in a tr build.

so, outside of reading long sword, snd, and seeing pure classes, looks like you want to tr with flavor builds. can/will/has been done, but its just making more work for yourself if you want that past life sooner than later.

Okay, not enough attribute points or skills for rogue skills, are you suggesting a monk splash?

It would also limit the armor to light, imply I need a higher DEX, and I do have a http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Breastplate_of_Destruction and a collection of other light armor (from my current and past rogue lives), but it also cuts PRR benefits as well.


This seems like an odd restriction. Do you really want the lvl 18 core enhs - or lvl 9 spells in the case of FvS - or is it just a self-imposed constraint?

I don't know why you put so many pts into WIS on either build: you're not a DC caster and the bonus to Will saves doesn't merit it, IMHO.

I want--on the FVS--mass heal, at least. I would like to be able to handle some raiding.

Good points on the WIS though. Although, if I did do a monk splash, it might be worth it--for AC purposes--or does that work in light armor?

One other reason for the restriction--on the paladin--was how many AP I was spending in each of the trees. I'm at 43AP and 37AP in the trees without any spent in my racial at all. Getting any benefit--other than feats--from another class would probably require a complete revision of my enhancement selections.

Updated FVS (while I consider the evasion splash on paladin). Moved WIS points to STR.


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Eyeshine
Level 27 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(20 Favored Soul \ 7 Epic)
Hit Points: 366
Spell Points: 2455
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 16
Will: 15

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 27) (Level 27)
Strength 14 23 23
Dexterity 11 14 14
Constitution 14 17 19
Intelligence 12 15 15
Wisdom 10 13 13
Charisma 17 20 20

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 27) (Level 27)
Balance 0 2 12
Bluff 3 5 12
Concentration 6 27 37
Diplomacy 3 5 12
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 3 5 12
Heal 4 24 36
Hide 0 2 13
Intimidate 3 5 15
Jump 2 19 31
Listen 0 1 10
Move Silently 0 2 11
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 1 2 9
Search 1 2 9
Spellcraft 5 25 32
Spot 0 1 8
Swim 2 6 13
Tumble n/a n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a n/a

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Heal (+4)
Skill: Spellcraft (+4)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Agility
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Bravery
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Keen Ears
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Luck
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Size Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Thrown Weapon Focus
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Spell (1): Nimbus of Light
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Automatic) Child of the Sovereign Host
Spell (1): Protection from Evil
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Resilience of Battle (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wall of Steel (Rank 3)


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Toughness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Smite Weakness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Burden of Sin (Rank 1)


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Unyielding Sovereignty
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Sanctuary (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Burden of Sin (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Ameliorating Strike (Rank 1)


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (2): Aid
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Burden of Sin (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Light Guard (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Righteous Weapons (Rank 1)


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (4): Panacea
Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Light Guard (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Light Guard (Rank 3)


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
Spell (2): Deific Vengeance
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (4): Death Ward
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Halfling - Nimble Reaction (Rank 1)


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Enhancement: Halfling - Lesser Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Break Out The Leeches (Rank 1)


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (3): Glyph of Warding
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (5): True Seeing
Enhancement: Halfling - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Halfling - Nimble Reaction (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Halfling - Greater Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Beloved of the Sovereign Host
Spell (6): Heal
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - War Domain: Blur (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Vessel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Wrathful Weapons (Rank 1)


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (4): Restoration
Spell (5): Divine Punishment
Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Power (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Vessel (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Vessel (Rank 3)


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (7): Spell Resistance, Mass
Enhancement: Halfling - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Magic Backlash (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Magic Backlash (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Magic Backlash (Rank 3)


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Spell (5): Cure Light Wounds, Mass
Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion
Spell (7): Protection from Elements, Mass
Enhancement: Halfling - Nimble Reaction (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Font of Power (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Intervention (Rank 1)


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (8): Death Ward, Mass
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Smiting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Inquisition (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Inquisition (Rank 2)


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Leap Of Faith
Spell (7): Greater Restoration
Spell (8): Fire Storm
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Angelic Resistance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Inquisition (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Articles of Faith (Rank 1)


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
Spell (9): Heal, Mass
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Angelic Resistance (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Angelic Resistance (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - War Domain: Haste (Rank 1)


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Spell (8): Summon Monster VIII
Spell (9): True Resurrection
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Shield of Condemnation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Aura of Menace (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 3)


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Deity) Favored Soul Damage Reduction: Silver
Spell (9): Summon Monster IX
Enhancement: Halfling - Bold (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Angel of Vengeance (Fvs) - Smiting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Implacable Foe (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Augment Summoning


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

[unbongwah]

The main drawback to longswords is their subpar crit spec (19-20 x2); the static bonuses from Righteous Weapons help but not enough to close the DPS gap. [A HE or elf using scimitars would be better.] The only named longswords I can find with better-than-avg specs are Avenger Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Nightforge_Avenger_Blade), Dragon Sword (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Dragon_Sword_of_Acid), Watcher's Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Watcher%27s_Blade), Oathblade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Oathblade), and drow longsword (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Drow_Longsword_of_the_Weapon_Master).

[autochthon]

The main drawback to longswords is their subpar crit spec (19-20 x2); the static bonuses from Righteous Weapons help but not enough to close the DPS gap. [A HE or elf using scimitars would be better.] The only named longswords I can find with better-than-avg specs are Avenger Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Nightforge_Avenger_Blade), Dragon Sword (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Dragon_Sword_of_Acid), Watcher's Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Watcher%27s_Blade), Oathblade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Oathblade), and drow longsword (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Drow_Longsword_of_the_Weapon_Master).

Oathblade is equal parts cool and flavorful.

[Psiandron]

The main drawback to longswords is their subpar crit spec (19-20 x2); the static bonuses from Righteous Weapons help but not enough to close the DPS gap. [A HE or elf using scimitars would be better.] The only named longswords I can find with better-than-avg specs are Avenger Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Nightforge_Avenger_Blade), Dragon Sword (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Dragon_Sword_of_Acid), Watcher's Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Watcher%27s_Blade), Oathblade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Oathblade), and drow longsword (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Drow_Longsword_of_the_Weapon_Master).

Threnalian War Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Threnalian_War_Blade)and Sirocco (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Sirocco)

And, Lit II and Min II, ofc. Assuming that you have the Shroud ingredients to make them.

[Todkaninchen]

The main drawback to longswords is their subpar crit spec (19-20 x2); the static bonuses from Righteous Weapons help but not enough to close the DPS gap. [A HE or elf using scimitars would be better.] The only named longswords I can find with better-than-avg specs are Avenger Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Nightforge_Avenger_Blade), Dragon Sword (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Dragon_Sword_of_Acid), Watcher's Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Watcher%27s_Blade), Oathblade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Oathblade), and drow longsword (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Drow_Longsword_of_the_Weapon_Master).


Threnalian War Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Threnalian_War_Blade)and Sirocco (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Sirocco)

And, Lit II and Min II, ofc. Assuming that you have the Shroud ingredients to make them.

I will have--prior to TRing--the mats for a green steel longsword, maybe two.

I was thinking about a triple positive for the massive alignment damage, but Lit II was another possible candidate.

For the rest:

I have or can/will easily farm Watcher's Blade (have), A Threnalian War Blade (will farm or buy), a Nightforge Avenger Blade (have the ore, will get), Divine Vengeance (have), Flametongue (have, unbound), Sirocco (both an unbound one and an older, pre-augment one), an unused Raider's Box (for Tinah, Sword of the Sea), and an unbound Xoriat Forged Blade.

I have an unbound Light and Darkness shield, a Vengeful Protector shield, a Wall of Wood (unbound, either heroic hard or heroic elite, can't remember which), and a couple of nice craftable, BTA mithral large shields.

If I need light armor, I have a pretty good store of many of the lighter ones. For heavier armor, I have enough relics for any type of giantcrafted/elfcrafted/dragoncrafted armor or blue/black/white dragon armor, a Brutish Cuirass, Gorgon Armor, unbound Mithral Full Plate of Speed, Unbound Orcish Privateers Plate, an unbound (Strength or Con) Terrorweb Chitin Breastplate, and a set of Templar's Bastion armor.

That's where I'm starting from on gear, so, I'm cool with having to have odd, named blades or armor. Looking for what you guys would think is key other gear as well.

[unbongwah]

I still don't think S&B is a good idea, but if it's what you really want, who am I to say no? :)

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Level 21 Lawful Good Halfling Female
(18 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 1 Epic)
Hit Points: 330
Spell Points: 301
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 25
Reflex: 17
Will: 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 21)
Strength 15 23
Dexterity 10 13
Constitution 16 19
Intelligence 11 14
Wisdom 8 11
Charisma 16 19

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Halfling - Cunning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Lesser Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Break Out The Leeches (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Guile (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Greater Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Guile (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Redemption (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Instinctive Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resistance Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resistance Aura (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resistance Aura (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Spellshield Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Spellshield Aura (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Spellshield Aura (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Swift Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

[Todkaninchen]

I still don't think S&B is a good idea, but if it's what you really want, who am I to say no? :)

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 21 Lawful Good Halfling Female
(18 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 1 Epic)
Hit Points: 330
Spell Points: 301
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 25
Reflex: 17
Will: 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 21)
Strength 15 23
Dexterity 10 13
Constitution 16 19
Intelligence 11 14
Wisdom 8 11
Charisma 16 19

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Halfling - Jorasco Dragonmark Focus (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Halfling - Cunning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Lesser Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Break Out The Leeches (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Guile (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Greater Dragonmark of Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Halfling - Guile (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Redemption (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Instinctive Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resistance Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resistance Aura (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resistance Aura (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Spellshield Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Spellshield Aura (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Spellshield Aura (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Swift Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical




That's an interesting build...

Couple questions.

Is that enough DEX to get evasion to work well? Or is it a "if it works most of the time, it's good"?

What skills were you thinking with this build?

[unbongwah]

Between Div Grace & halfling luck bonuses, I'm not worried about Reflex saves; and you could craft a Parasitic Breastplate or Chaosrobe with +10 Reflex (http://ddowiki.com/page/Altar_of_Insanity). Or shift pts from CON into DEX; my first draft started DEX 14 & went for TWF instead of S&B.

Skills: I always max UMD if I can, even as a crossclass skill, particularly on a build with high CHA. Beyond that, it's up to you: Concentration, Intim, Heal, some Balance, a rank of Tumble, whatever you think is most important. I would start INT 9 or 11 so it's even after your +3 INT tome kicks in.

[Todkaninchen]

Between Div Grace & halfling luck bonuses, I'm not worried about Reflex saves; and you could craft a Parasitic Breastplate or Chaosrobe with +10 Reflex (http://ddowiki.com/page/Altar_of_Insanity). Or shift pts from CON into DEX; my first draft started DEX 14 & went for TWF instead of S&B.

Skills: I always max UMD if I can, even as a crossclass skill, particularly on a build with high CHA. Beyond that, it's up to you: Concentration, Intim, Heal, some Balance, a rank of Tumble, whatever you think is most important. I would start INT 9 or 11 so it's even after your +3 INT tome kicks in.

Cool. That sounds like a good split, especially with a high CHA.

I'll probably get a CHA Ioun Stone and maybe keep the persuasion goggles from this life as well. Have to see if Eyesblaze has one of my Heads of Good Fortune.

So, other than (and within) the gear I have, any key equipment you suggest? Anything you like that isn't along the usual lines?