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Ungood
06-21-2014, 01:18 AM
The title pretty much says it all.

The rules are simple:

You can't vote for yourself.
They have to currently play DDO.
You have to explain why they would make a good producer.*


I'll tally the votes every day, as I can.

Maelodic's Dog - 6 (Long live our canine Overlord)
Chai - 5
Dev Sevelin - 3
Ron - 2 (The creator of Ron's Character Planner)
Memnir - 2
Cordovan - 1
Purplefooze - 1
Hendrik - 1
Teh_Troll - 1
Thrudh - 1
Feather of Sun-1
Fernando - 1
Ed Greenwood - 1
Gary Gygax - 1 (After the Zombie Apocalypse happens)

Notes:
* a reason like "because" or no reason at all, will null the vote for them.

Added:

I guess I should start huh?

Ok, I would vote for Thrudh:

Reason: Well I got to be honest, I typically can't stand this guy in general, I mean we don't agree, and I personally think he's abrasive, and in some cases downright nasty, but, I have to give credit where it is due, and he has been a banner waver and fanboi for Turbine and DDO, constantly over all the years, all the updates, the changes that have made my skin crawl and made me want to quit, he has been there waving the "I love this game" Flag through it all, and that means he really loves this game, and I can't help but see that and believe that he wants good things for it, he would want to do whatever he could to make this game something great. While I believe that only his heart would be in the right place to steer this game, and... well.. that needs to be recognized.

EllisDee37
06-21-2014, 01:28 AM
Currently play? Phooey.

I would have nominated Teh_Troll, because he would give monks a much-needed nerf or three, cut the karma requirements in half, and drop the cost of hearts from 4200 valor to 2500 valor. (Which means we wouldn't need to bother with the "seeds in end reward if you're capped" fix in the first place.)

Ungood
06-21-2014, 01:31 AM
Currently play? Phooey.

I would have nominated Teh_Troll, because he would give monks a much-needed nerf or three, cut the karma requirements in half, and drop the cost of hearts from 4200 valor to 2500 valor. (Which means we wouldn't need to bother with the "seeds in end reward if you're capped" fix in the first place.)

Meh, I'll let this slide.

FlaviusMaximus
06-21-2014, 01:39 AM
I already know that the results of this weird popularity contest are going to make me vomit in my mouth a little, buy f it. I'll participate.

Tscheuss, Permabanned, and Natural Hazard are pretty chill and aren't idiots. Split my vote into thirds for them.


I vote for Dev Sevelin. At least there we get a chance the game gets a new producer...

Yeah I should point out that I'm good with the producer we have and the Turbine staff in general. I'm taking this whole thing as a "whose posts can you live with" kind of deal.

Nestroy
06-21-2014, 01:42 AM
I already know that the results of this weird popularity contest are going to make me vomit in my mouth a little, buy f it. I'll participate.

Tscheuss and Permabanned seem pretty chill. Split my vote between them.

I vote for Dev Sevelin. At least there we get a chance the game gets a new producer...

B0ltdrag0n
06-21-2014, 01:49 AM
I definitely see this thread going places when Nancy wakes up tomorrow.

Nickademus
06-21-2014, 02:08 AM
I vote Memnir.

He always has a visual reply, usually with a healthy dose of logic and understanding. Shows he takes the time to think about his response. Communication, observation, and empathy make for a great leader.

FranOhmsford
06-21-2014, 07:01 AM
You can put my vote down for Chai!

If only because the forum trolls would instantly quit the game!

Soulfurnace
06-21-2014, 07:46 AM
Feather of Sun.

Seriously, the ghostbane debacle was less of a screw up than u22, so let's just bring him back and make him king.

Edit: You said must be playing, does he still play?

Hiponic
06-21-2014, 07:47 AM
.. This is dumb lol.
Like someone said this is a popularity contest.... Did someone say the vote for that person cause he always has a video response?

non sense moving on

Full_Bleed
06-21-2014, 07:51 AM
So this is the second time I have seen mention of the producer changing. Didn't we just get a new producer with a new, shiny, fan-voted name?

As for a community producer pick...

The problem with any community candidate is that they all lack the fundamental metrics to support their beliefs to begin with. We are all just relaying opinions about the game we would like to see that may have little to no connections to the fundamental reason the game exists in the first place--to make money. In fact, if the direction of the game over the last few years is any indication, most producers have failed to find the balance between compelling content and the p2w foundation it all sits on.

I am not sure any player passionate about the game has a firm enough grasp of that to be of any particular use to the development team.

Good luck finding a wizard that can monetize bug fixes, bend it like beckham back toward being a D&D game, and make more money with quality content than P2W.

Maelodic
06-21-2014, 08:32 AM
The rules are simple:
You can't vote for yourself.
They have to currently play DDO.
You have to explain why they would make a good producer.*

I pick my dog. Technically it hits the keys while I play.

The reasoning is because dog.

sebastianosmith
06-21-2014, 08:38 AM
The reasoning is because dog.

Is there any other reasoning needed? I submit there is not and also vote for Maelodic's dog, because puppies.

Vellrad
06-21-2014, 08:43 AM
Fernando!

Because I can take my vorpal from my kama and put it on a longsword!

Avenging_Angel
06-21-2014, 08:45 AM
Since when customers are allowed to pick positions of responsability of a business?

sebastianosmith
06-21-2014, 08:55 AM
Since when customers are allowed to pick positions of responsability of a business?

http://cdn.stripersonline.com/6/6a/1000x1000px-LL-6a1ec4e4_lighten-up-francis-o.gif

Maelodic
06-21-2014, 09:28 AM
Is there any other reasoning needed? I submit there is not and also vote for Maelodic's dog, because puppies.

He's so happy, he's crying.

moo_cow
06-21-2014, 09:41 AM
I pick my dog. Technically it hits the keys while I play.

The reasoning is because dog.

I vote for this guys dog, the logic is irrefutable.

Ungood
06-21-2014, 09:53 AM
I pick my dog. Technically it hits the keys while I play.

The reasoning is because dog.

I'll let this pass.

Altho I think my dog would be better then your dog, however since she only hits the power button when I play and not the keys, I can't vote for her.

Singular
06-21-2014, 11:32 AM
Currently play? Phooey.

I would have nominated Teh_Troll, because he would give monks a much-needed nerf or three, cut the karma requirements in half, and drop the cost of hearts from 4200 valor to 2500 valor. (Which means we wouldn't need to bother with the "seeds in end reward if you're capped" fix in the first place.)

Did Teh_Troll stop playing? If so, I totally understand.

Ok, I nominate Chai. He, she, it makes good sense with regards to p2w ****. And he/she/it seems to play a lot and think about their playing.

The only other person I'd vote for is Ogrewani on Thelanis, but I seriously doubt he wastes his time here or would want this position.

Not that you're in a position to hand this position out, Ungood. I wish you could, that'd be great and all, but let's face it, you're basically impotent with regards to who takes over jobs at Turbine. Like the rest of us.

FranOhmsford
06-21-2014, 11:44 AM
http://cdn.stripersonline.com/6/6a/1000x1000px-LL-6a1ec4e4_lighten-up-francis-o.gif

never gonna happen!

Ungood
06-21-2014, 11:50 AM
Not that you're in a position to hand this position out, Ungood. I wish you could, that'd be great and all, but let's face it, you're basically impotent with regards to who takes over jobs at Turbine. Like the rest of us.

If I was in a position to hand this position out, I'd be sitting in it. :D

Munkenmo
06-21-2014, 11:54 AM
I'll nominate Hendrik, he's the best man for the job if we want a game where everything works as intended.

BurnerD
06-21-2014, 12:19 PM
I pick my dog. Technically it hits the keys while I play.

The reasoning is because dog.

I also vote for Maelodic's dog.... Long live the canine overlord!

PermaBanned
06-21-2014, 02:05 PM
My vote is for Gary Gygax.

• I'm quite certain he plays from whatever afterlife he's in (but only between table top sessions, ofc).

• He created D&D - talk about product longevity....

• He's as likely to be resurrected and hired as any of the forumites are likely to be hired.

Bridge_Dweller
06-21-2014, 02:16 PM
Axer.

Scraap
06-21-2014, 02:28 PM
Praise Dog, and Maelodic, his prophet.

Ungood
06-21-2014, 03:39 PM
Feather of Sun.

Seriously, the ghostbane debacle was less of a screw up than u22, so let's just bring him back and make him king.

Edit: You said must be playing, does he still play?

No idea if he still plays.. but I'll let this pass because.. ghostbane.

Ungood
06-21-2014, 03:40 PM
My vote is for Gary Gygax.

• I'm quite certain he plays from whatever afterlife he's in (but only between table top sessions, ofc).

• He created D&D - talk about product longevity....

• He's as likely to be resurrected and hired as any of the forumites are likely to be hired.

Until we kickstart the zombie apocalypse, I am going to have to turn this down.

katz
06-21-2014, 03:44 PM
i also vote for Maelodic's dog. cuz dogs are awesome and Maelodic plays a bard and... yeah... >.>

slarden
06-21-2014, 03:59 PM
No more producers hire a dev!

PermaBanned
06-21-2014, 10:31 PM
Until we kickstart the zombie apocalypse, I am going to have to turn this down.

:D Fair enough.

However...

From Night of the Living Dead to Shawn of the Dead to the Walking Dead: nobody has time to play video games once the zombie apocalypse kicks in. Just sayin'

Ungood
06-21-2014, 11:02 PM
:D Fair enough.

However...

From Night of the Living Dead to Shawn of the Dead to the Walking Dead: nobody has time to play video games once the zombie apocalypse kicks in. Just sayin'

To be fair, they were playing video games at the end of Shawn of the Dead, and I am sure people played video games at the end of Warm Bodies.

Thrudh
06-21-2014, 11:50 PM
I'd vote for Teh_Troll although I think he's gone...

Hendrik or Permabanned would also be good.

To be honest, I'm very excited that Major Malphunktion (sp?) is in charge now.. That guy is awesome.

LuKaSu
06-22-2014, 12:10 AM
I'd vote for Teh_Troll although I think he's gone...

Hendrik or Permabanned would also be good.

To be honest, I'm very excited that Major Malphunktion (sp?) is in charge now.. That guy is awesome.

I'm not sure if that was sarcasm and I missed my save or it was serious, but just in case it was serious, Major Mal is now working on the Lord of the Rings Online Group (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/444107-MajorMal-Rowan-who-s-in-charge-now) instead of the DDO group. I don't believe they've said who will replace him, but they've also recently brought Dev Sev online in the DDO group, and he is seeming like he is doing some good things with player communication and interaction, so I'm thinking good things are still coming down the tubes for us.

Ungood
06-22-2014, 01:19 AM
To be honest, I'm very excited that Major Malphunktion (sp?) is in charge now.. That guy is awesome.

Maj Mal is gone, hence why this little vote topic to start with.

Thrudh
06-22-2014, 11:40 AM
Maj Mal is gone, hence why this little vote topic to start with.

I did not know that... I retract my statement. He is not awesome...

Dawnsblood
06-22-2014, 01:40 PM
Put me in for Memnir. He seems to have his head on straight.

Singular
06-22-2014, 02:01 PM
If I was in a position to hand this position out, I'd be sitting in it. :D

Take it! Take it!

Singular
06-22-2014, 02:07 PM
No more producers hire a dev!

The best advice here. They could just use the community as a guide and drop the producer role.

Blairgowrie
06-22-2014, 02:12 PM
Sorry cannot vote for a dog ... now if it was a wildebeast or a gnu ... well that would be different.

So instead I will vote for Chai ... and I think he would bring a gnu viewpoint to the Dev team!!

Cheers

Blair

Lessah
06-23-2014, 03:49 AM
You can put my vote down for Chai!

If only because the forum trolls would instantly quit the game!

Chai doesn't do things that don't make sense...unless you count playing in a static group with me! He'd make a great Producer though I'm not sure he'd take a cut in pay to do it!
:rolleyes:;)

Eth
06-23-2014, 05:07 AM
Axer.

My vote too.

Angelic-council
06-23-2014, 05:59 AM
.. This is dumb lol.
Like someone said this is a popularity contest.... Did someone say the vote for that person cause he always has a video response?

non sense moving on

You are absolutely right, this is just a joke to me as well.

Before even voting, I would like to see their record, work history. Are they skilled enough to guide DDO?.
We can't simply vote like that just because someone said something smart or loves the game. We need an actual prove.

it's absolute nonsense.. not a single person proved anything yet.

Ungood
06-23-2014, 11:43 AM
My vote too.

Sadly, no reason was given for Axer, so I have not put his name up. And I thought he went off to play Neverwinner?

Ungood
06-23-2014, 11:46 AM
Chai doesn't do things that don't make sense...unless you count playing in a static group with me! He'd make a great Producer though I'm not sure he'd take a cut in pay to do it!
:rolleyes:;)

Vote Taken and Front Page Updated.

kmoustakas
06-23-2014, 11:50 AM
Feather of Sun.

Seriously, the ghostbane debacle was less of a screw up than u22, so let's just bring him back and make him king.

Edit: You said must be playing, does he still play?

Gods no please no. The time ddo exploded and we couldn't play for days wasn't worse that what they did to the loot.

Ungood
06-23-2014, 11:57 AM
Before even voting, I would like to see their record, work history. Are they skilled enough to guide DDO?.
We can't simply vote like that just because someone said something smart or loves the game.

I would like to let you know the irony that Gary Gygax was high school drop out does not escape me at this moment.

Hafeal
06-23-2014, 12:14 PM
It's close with the WIki Brotherhood, but my nomination is for Ron of Ron's Character Planner, as DDO 'unofficially" relies on his programming already. :D



To be honest, I'm very excited that Major Malphunktion (sp?) is in charge now.. That guy is awesome.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA06Z5e1ZFc

Ungood
06-23-2014, 12:30 PM
It's close with the WIki Brotherhood, but my nomination is for Ron of Ron's Character Planner, as DDO 'unofficially" relies on his programming already. :D

Ron Added.

Cardoor
06-23-2014, 12:34 PM
What we want and what we get, could work out like this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypYZIxvppqg


...if we think positively.

Luxgolg
06-23-2014, 01:20 PM
I vote Cordovan. He plays DDO. Has understanding of the community. He has seen most other Producers come and go, along with most of the Devs. Soon™ is trademarked to him.

TrinityTurtle
06-23-2014, 03:33 PM
Ed Greenwood. After listening to him on the commentary, he has a whole world approach to creating that I really like. He talks about how interconnected things are, and how small details like bathrooms matter. ITs the small touches that really give a sense of believability to things. Sterile, empty environments are so clearly just created to be an obstacle vs. a place where something is happening that you have to deal with. And his modules were great fun.

cdbd3rd
06-23-2014, 04:15 PM
While it's a tough choice between some already on the list, I have to drop a ticket in Dev Sev's box.


...for the post the other day that not ALL Devving was aimed at end game. The little people have not been forgotten!! :D


edit:


.... Cordovan.... Soon™ is trademarked to him.


Mmmm... IIRC, we started trademarking "Soon™" to Tolero when she was on the CSR front lines back during the Vast & Mysterious void of Mod 9.


...but I've slept once or twice since then, could be wrong. :o

Ungood
06-23-2014, 07:46 PM
Votes Updated... we are still preparing to bow down to our canine overlord.

Ungood
06-23-2014, 07:49 PM
What we want and what we get, could work out like this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypYZIxvppqg


...if we think positively.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL that vid was horrible!

Missing_Minds
06-23-2014, 07:53 PM
Mmmm... IIRC, we started trademarking "Soon™" to Tolero when she was on the CSR front lines back during the Vast & Mysterious void of Mod 9.

...but I've slept once or twice since then, could be wrong. :o
You are not. It is related to Tolero and not Jerry.

As for a dog being a producer... heck, if "Dog" has an award winning youtube channel, why not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cv5LsqKUXc&feature=player_embedded

Dawnsblood
06-23-2014, 08:38 PM
Mmmm... IIRC, we started trademarking "Soon™" to Tolero when she was on the CSR front lines back during the Vast & Mysterious void of Mod 9.


...but I've slept once or twice since then, could be wrong. :o

The first time I saw Soon™ was from a LOTRO CM named Sapience. His title over there is "Community Manager & Harbinger of Soon" but maybe Tolero snagged it and he's the copycat ;)

Missing_Minds
06-23-2014, 09:24 PM
The first time I saw Soon™ was from a LOTRO CM named Sapience. His title over there is "Community Manager & Harbinger of Soon" but maybe Tolero snagged it and he's the copycat ;)
Negative. Tolero started it. Sapience and Clover took it to a published new level. As "myddo" and "mylotro" are both gone, such publishing has also vanished.

Captain_Wizbang
06-23-2014, 09:36 PM
+404error+

If they could dangle a big carrot to get him back.

Maelodic
06-24-2014, 03:50 AM
Votes Updated... we are still preparing to bow down to our canine overlord.

Dog is good. Dog is kind. Do not worry about Dog, Dog will make everything better.

Dog is love. Dog is life.

cdbd3rd
06-24-2014, 06:39 AM
Dog is good. Dog is kind. Do not worry about Dog, Dog will make everything better.

Dog is love. Dog is life.


Hmmm. You do make a valid argument, but...


but...

...

No, my vote must stand for Dev Sev. :p

Indianwiz
06-24-2014, 08:05 AM
My vote is for Chai.

pesch1991
06-24-2014, 09:35 AM
Just so you know, severlin = the_troll .

Bridge_Dweller
06-24-2014, 09:37 AM
Just so you know, severlin = the_troll .

I'm not sure people are supposed to know that.

Ungood
06-24-2014, 09:55 AM
Just so you know, severlin = the_troll .

Is this true, or just rumor?

Psiandron
06-24-2014, 04:22 PM
The best advice here. They could just use the community as a guide and drop the producer role.
Hoenstly, I have come to think over the years that a big part of DDO's problems stem from them being too easily swayed by the player-base, or elements within it I should say. While I would rather see a lot of indians doing work, I do think that there needs to be at least one strong chief.


Sadly, no reason was given for Axer, so I have not put his name up. And I thought he went off to play Neverwinner?
Yup, and so far as I've seen he hasn't come back. Can't imagine that would be likely either, given the state of his favorite class.


I would like to let you know the irony that Gary Gygax was high school drop out does not escape me at this moment.
Not really comparing the two as that would be asinine, but so was Einstein.




Just so you know, severlin = the_troll .
Is this true, or just rumor?
I've seen this said too, but I think it's made up. I have no verification of this, but someone said that Sev came from AC. That sounds far more plausable than him being Teh_Troll.


I really want to vote for the dog because I like dogs and they pretty much always like me too, but I can't.
There's no way I pass Ron over for this. He's obviously a hard worker, he's communicative, he has experience running a development team on no budget. His products to date are not perfect, but they keep improving. New bugs may crop up, but old ones are often fixed as well.
Course, he should not accept unless Turbine agrees to hire dragon and anyone else he wants on staff. :)

Ungood
06-24-2014, 04:44 PM
Not really comparing the two as that would be asinine, but so was Einstein.

I was simply commenting on the paradox of demanding that someone have qualifications to be a creative director of a game that was by all rights, created by a man who had no qualifications to do so.

Ungood
06-24-2014, 04:45 PM
I really want to vote for the dog because I like dogs and they pretty much always like me too, but I can't.
There's no way I pass Ron over for this. He's obviously a hard worker, he's communicative, he has experience running a development team on no budget. His products to date are not perfect, but they keep improving. New bugs may crop up, but old ones are often fixed as well.
Course, he should not accept unless Turbine agrees to hire dragon and anyone else he wants on staff. :)

Don't feel bad, my wife picked the dog over me.. LOL.

Psiandron
06-24-2014, 04:49 PM
Don't feel bad, my wife picked the dog over me.. LOL.

Awww, I think somebody needs a good ear-scratching. ;D

Raiderone
06-24-2014, 04:54 PM
Bring back Kate!

Ungood
06-24-2014, 05:47 PM
Awww, I think somebody needs a good ear-scratching. ;D

and again.. I think the dog will get that before me... :p

FlaviusMaximus
06-24-2014, 07:44 PM
Just so you know, severlin = the_troll .


Is this true, or just rumor?

This thread just hit a new low and it was already far from good.

Cardoor
06-25-2014, 02:29 PM
Considering the initial Spellsinger and Warchanter enhancement improvements I will vote for Vargouille. The enhancements are not perfect, but out of the gate they seemed to at least recognize where improvements needed to be made.

Vargouille acknowledged the PC's role in the enhancements which means that even if all of the ideas did not come from him, he can still negotiate and present a good proposal with council and forum input.