MajorMal, Rowan, who's in charge now?

[Captain_Wizbang]

Just when I was genuinely excited about the future of this game, the rug was swept out from under that pink cloud.

MajorMal is now the live producer at LotRO.

Seriously, as the world (Khorvaire) turns, so do the dayz of our lives.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm299/chefricochet/animation/cada47cf.gif

[Drwaz99]

I think that leaves 2...Glin (senior producer) and Vyvyanne (exec).

[jalont]

As they wind down AC, I'm assuming people from that game will be moving around. They may not know yet. Things will probably be in flux for awhile.

[HAL]

Just when I was genuinely excited about the future of this game, the rug was swept out from under that pink cloud.

MajorMal is now the live producer at LotRO.

Seriously, as the world (Khorvaire) turns, so do the dayz of our lives.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm299/chefricochet/animation/cada47cf.gif

He didn't even say goodbye :(

[Memnir]

MajorMal, Rowan, who's in charge now?


http://i.imgur.com/HVsc4yV.gif

[sebastianosmith]

http://i.imgur.com/HVsc4yV.gif

Yes! Katniss! She'll never pick a favorite class!!!11!!

[Captain_Wizbang]

As they wind down AC, I'm assuming people from that game will be moving around. They may not know yet. Things will probably be in flux for awhile.
for a while? surely you jest,

It's been in-flux for at least 3 years now. MajMal was going to be "the guy" to keep this game on the right track. I have almost no faith in the future. Seriously.

[BOgre]

Well, I'm sure he had little choice. Told to move: moved. But yeah, a word or two about what's going on would have been nice. Oh, well. If he's going to be that disloyal and fickle, fine.

Who's on deck? Batter UP!

[viktorserak]

for a while? surely you jest,

It's been in-flux for at least 3 years now. MajMal was going to be "the guy" to keep this game on the right track. I have almost no faith in the future. Seriously.

Do you folks remember the "hey DDO folks, pick new name for LOTRO producer" event?


That was fun, right?

-sigh- If I would speak my mind, I would get banned.

[Psiandron]

Meh, things change...

I liked MajMal, but this is just how Turbine works. Besides, life is all about change...change or die and all that.

As far as feeling of doom, AC is still out there. You can roll up a character today if you want. They still do updates and have events. I imagine DDO will be the same. When it does go the way of AC and Ghalladriel, I imagine that then is when you'll see the server consolidation people keep asking for. I doubt that Turbine feels it's cost effective to do any consolidation prior to dropping down to one server. I seriously doubt it costs anything more to keep 8 servers running as opposed to one. Just a tiny bit of electricity really, unless you find another use for the server(s) and then establish an opportunity cost.

Ah MajMal, Glin, Rowan, Fernando, etc. we hardly knew ye... :D


p.s. If we get a vote for next producer, my vote is for Memnir.

[Grosbeak07]

Meh, things change...

I liked MajMal, but this is just how Turbine works. Besides, life is all about change...change or die and all that.

As far as feeling of doom, AC is still out there. You can roll up a character today if you want. They still do updates and have events. I imagine DDO will be the same. When it does go the way of AC and Ghalladriel, I imagine that then is when you'll see the server consolidation people keep asking for. I doubt that Turbine feels it's cost effective to do any consolidation prior to dropping down to one server. I seriously doubt it costs anything more to keep 8 servers running as opposed to one. Just a tiny bit of electricity really, unless you find another use for the server(s) and then establish an opportunity cost.

Ah MajMal, Glin, Rowan, Fernando, etc. we hardly knew ye... :D


p.s. If we get a vote for next producer, my vote is for Memnir.


AC is dead, it's going Fully Free to Play shortly if it hasn't already.

The Dev Sevlin (who has posted here recently about Paladin and other changes) was I believe the last producer in AC.

Also, Glin is still here as far as we know.

[jalont]

AC is dead, it's going Fully Free to Play shortly if it hasn't already.

The Dev Sevlin (who has posted here recently about Paladin and other changes) was I believe the last producer in AC.

Also, Glin is still here as far as we know.

Aye, I believe Glin is still in charge. I guess no one truly knows the hierarchy, so my guess is the same as anyone's, but I was never under the impression that Mal was in a position to direct the future of the game. More like a VP nuts and bolts guy or something. The hyperbole that he would lead us into the future is a bit over the top.

[Kalimah]

Yes! Katniss! She'll never pick a favorite class!!!11!!

Hah she is a monkcher.

[Psiandron]

AC is dead, it's going Fully Free to Play shortly if it hasn't already.

The Dev Sevlin (who has posted here recently about Paladin and other changes) was I believe the last producer in AC.

Also, Glin is still here as far as we know.

Define dead?

It's still there. You can still play it. They had a spring update. Diminished yes, dead to me implies completely unavailable.

Glin? Who knows?
He may well still be in charge of DDO. I certainly have no idea. Turbine never posts when specific people leave, just when new ones come on-board. I just know that I haven't seen anything from him in a bit and I always keep in mind that when someone no longer works for Turbine, they cease to exist. Turbine will never mention them again.

[Cardoor]

We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune.

[Chauncey1]

We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune.

Now we see the violence inherent in the system!

[IronClan]

Now we see the violence inherent in the system!

'Elp 'elp I'm bein' repressed!

[arkonas]

i will miss the weekly messages with mal. im hoping someone else will keep us informed. we really liked you guys were talking to us.

[Produktion_Malphunktion]

http://youtu.be/ojydNb3Lrrs


Farewell is said by the living, in life, every day. It is said with love and friendship, with the affirmation that the memories are lasting if the flesh is not.-Drizzt

It was fun over the past 3+ years, I'm still reading so BEHAVE!

See you in the Realms! - Maj.

[Fallout_Zero]

But but but everything is fine with DDO? Right?

[HAL]

Farewell is said by the living, in life, every day. It is said with love and friendship, with the affirmation that the memories are lasting if the flesh is not.-Drizzt

It was fun over the past 3+ years, I'm still reading so BEHAVE!

See you in the Realms! - Maj.

DDO is the red-headed stepchild - LotRO gets all the good things :(

Bye Mal - good luck.

[Captain_Wizbang]

Farewell is said by the living, in life, every day. It is said with love and friendship, with the affirmation that the memories are lasting if the flesh is not.-Drizzt

It was fun over the past 3+ years, I'm still reading so BEHAVE!

See you in the Realms! - Maj.

The only realms you'll see me in is Forgotten Realms.



And if you must quote Drizzt, " Because for change to be lasting among reasoning creatures, that change must be for the better.

Lets hope the highlighted is the case. ( I don't have as much faith in turbine right now, sorry.)

[HungarianRhapsody]

For anyone who didn't get to read his producer letter from the "other side":
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?550637-Please-allow-me-to-introduce-myself


Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of (no) wealth and (very little )taste
I've been around Turbine for a long, long year
Worked with many a man's kobold's and capes.
And I was 'round when Moria shipped
Working with Russia and Spain (ok France, but that doesn't rhyme)
Moved on to DDO
played with Lloth as she laid waste.
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
I stuck around through Shadowfell
When I saw it was a time for a change
Left QA for Producer land
and Rowan made the change....

My dear Bagginses and Boffins, Tooks and Brandybucks, Grubbs, Chubbs, Hornblowers, Bolgers, Bracegirdles and Proudfoots. To the race of men, elves under the sky and dwarves in their halls of stone.
My name is Produktion Malphunktion. I've been around Turbine for about 6 years. I used to run localization for all the franchises back in the Codemasters days.
I moved on to Dungeons and Dragons Online and ran QA through a couple of expansions. I recently made the jump to producer, and Rowan then moved me from Faerun to Middle Earth.
I'll be the new live producer going forward, and you will here from me every now and again.
I do read forums often, I may not always speak, but I love to see what players think, and what ideas they have for the game, and with my QA background what is driving you crazy.



Here is a little novella about his career so far….

“It all started in the summer of 1979. I played an elf, with 4 hit points and was killed by a poison spider. The life long obsession with games began. Thank you Gary Gygax and mom my first Dungeon Master.

But I had another love, film and television. I was a Star Trek fan practically from birth,and Star Wars made me an obsessive movie nut.

Both of these loves formed my strange path to my new job.

I went to Clark university for psychology and philosophy but spent more time taking film appreciation classes. I transferred to a small community college known for television production. After 2 very intense years I started my career in TV as a cameraman/editor. I specialized in long form stories with no narration..ie no reporter to screw it up. After a few months I became the station director. Yep, 24 years old, directing a newscast, setting the on air look, rigging the studio, doing live events and NCAA sports and well, running the whole thing. Won a few awards, nominated for a few others, but it paid poorly.
I moved on to WB 56, yes this my second time on the WB train as just an editor. The OJ happened. I became disillusioned where news was going. I was still kicking but, I was nominated for two Emmy awards in editing but my heart was no longer in it. Around this time I discovered Doom. The First game that made me fall out of my chair. I was obsessed. You know how people complain about 14.99 monthly to play an MMO? I was paying over 200 a month to deathmatch. Yes calling in long distance to play a game. I saw in Doom and later in Quake the future. Passive entertainment was about to become a dinosaur. I wanted a piece of this.
I quit TV to be "freelance" but really I was spending most of my time building Quake levels, maps for Warcraft...and dreaming. A fortuitous meeting with a developer in McDonald's got me a job at Looking Glass Studios. I worked in QA for Thief-the real one, Thief gold, Thief II and System Shock 2. I was QA lead on Flight Unlimited III, and did a bunch of guerrilla design to finish the game after the producers and lead designer quit. No patch on that game thank you very much.
I became a designer on Jane's flight combat, I needed to design a full campaign for D-Day and the invasion of France. 10 missions in 6 weeks. Needless to say I didn't sleep much. Sadly LGS went out of business and I was starting a family so...
My journey took me back to QA. I worked on a 'digital non linear editor for television broadcast' (like Final Cut Pro ) and a streaming video system that allowed people to work with HD video in real time. My product was running CNN, NBC News, The BBC world news a ton of local stations..sadly that integrated system did a fair job of destroying newsrooms across the world. Sorry about that.

It was miserable. They hated me. I didn't like them very much either. I became a Kung fu artist during this time so I could hit things.

5 years ago I got a call from Turbine to lead the international QA team. It was interesting to say the least. I moved to lead of DDO QA, then promoted to manager. In that time I've shipped 8 major updates and 2 expansion packs. I jsut spent a few months as producer on DDO, and now for the next challenge!

[HungarianRhapsody]

Also, DOOOOooooOOOOM!

[Grimlock]

And so it begins.

[Ovrad]

Already?!?!

Geez, how bad of a state is DDO in that everyone instantly bails? ...

[Mercureal]

Farewell is said by the living, in life, every day. It is said with love and friendship, with the affirmation that the memories are lasting if the flesh is not.-Drizzt

It was fun over the past 3+ years, I'm still reading so BEHAVE!

See you in the Realms! - Maj.


Well-played, I doubt any saw this coming. And I'm sure that there will be a bit of weeping and tooth-gnashing in following days, here and in the "other" forum.

(You know the one I mean) :)

[jalont]

Already?!?!

Geez, how bad of a state is DDO in that everyone instantly bails? ...

That would be one awesome job. I would love to tell my boss, no, I don't think I'll be doing this job anymore. I'm going to be doing that one instead.

Of course, that's probably not what happened here either.

[Produktion_Malphunktion]

Already?!?!

Geez, how bad of a state is DDO in that everyone instantly bails? ...

Instantly? I was on the game for almost 4 years.

[Cleanincubus]

Seriously, who's in charger now? Is this person actually going to stick around as lead Producer (under Vyvyanne) for more than an update? No public announcement made over here about who the "new" Producer is? Especially after this horribly buggy release that was shoved out before it was ready (not even a public apology, might I add).

[Ovrad]

Instantly? I was on the game for almost 4 years.

As QA yes.

I'm not mad at you MajMal, but I'm very pessimistic about the future of DDO.

[BOgre]

Instantly? I was on the game for almost 4 years.

You're defending yourself? Don't bother. Nothing you do will make you come off anything but bad. It will feel like an abandonment no matter what you say. Especially so soon after a bug ridden update and a cash grabby Airship fiasco.

Just make a clean break and get on with your new job.

[jalont]

Seriously, who's in charger now? Is this person actually going to stick around as lead Producer (under Vyvyanne) for more than an update? No public announcement made over here about who the "new" Producer is? Especially after this horribly buggy release that was shoved out before it was ready (not even a public apology, might I add).

Every update this game has ever had has been "shoved out" while it was horribly buggy. This is true of all complex games from DDO to AAA multi-million dollar IPs like Elder Scrolls.

[jalont]

You're defending yourself? Don't bother. Nothing you do will make you come off anything but bad. It will feel like an abandonment no matter what you say. Especially so soon after a bug ridden update and a cash grabby Airship fiasco.

Just make a clean break and get on with your new job.

You... you do know employees do what their employers tell them, correct? Are you old enough to have had a job?

[Psiandron]

You... you do know employees do what their employers tell them, correct? Are you old enough to have had a job?

Well, I'd say that one of us failed his sarcasm check.


Maj,
Best of luck in your move across the office, or whatever. And, ofc, thanks for all the fish.

[BOgre]

You... you do know employees do what their employers tell them, correct? Are you old enough to have had a job?

I don't see how this comment has anything to do with what I'm telling him.

Also, from earlier in the thread:

Well, I'm sure he had little choice. Told to move: moved. But yeah, a word or two about what's going on would have been nice. Oh, well. If he's going to be that disloyal and fickle, fine.

Who's on deck? Batter UP!

So.... yeah, all I'm saying is there's no point in his trying to defend himself to us right now. It's not going to change the perception, and he's better off just moving on.

[Cleanincubus]

Every update this game has ever had has been "shoved out" while it was horribly buggy. This is true of all complex games from DDO to AAA multi-million dollar IPs like Elder Scrolls.

True, but not all have had this many problem right at release...just roughly a 3rd of them. But honestly I expected a little better when the head of QA was named Producer. Clearly my expectations, verse knowing the reality of things, was far too high. Live and learn I suppose.

[Thumbed_Servant]

He was only 2 or 3 months ago made Live Producer for DDO!?!

Sigh, so much goes on behind the scenes that we never see, but this to me is an example of what makes us unhappy. Lack-of-Continuity.

I don't mean they can't or shouldn't change staff and/or move people around when needed...I mean there is an almost visible annual shift in direction with things in DDO...random loot, focus on elevating different classes, etc, and to me this comes from moving people around/changing people too often. Two to three months in the position and they move him? Why?

And Produktion_Malphunktion...you had time to compose a poem and a long introduction forum letter in LoTRO, but couldn't take a moment to post notice here that you left? Truly sir were you afraid of the reaction so much? One of the few but constant criticisms of DDO staff is LACK of communication and you seemed to champion more communication...except this time?

BAH, poorly done this is

[dunklezhan]

Sad panda, for many reasons, not least of which is just that I have faith in Mal's general decision making and reasoning, and now that ability won't be on DDO, it'll be on LOTRO.

LOTRO is everything I want from an MMO in terms of lore and depth... and everything I don't want in terms of grindy mechanics and especially gameplay. I've tried it, I really really tried it, I desperately wanted it to be my new MMO. But although I was still very interested in digging out lore and chasing down storylines, I was bored of playing by L25... and came back to DDO, where even now I'm not bored of the combat, because combat can go so many different ways here, even if everything is essentially just a question of DPS, and the lore is fairly impenetrable (and certainly not impression-making in general).

But I think it's going to be hard to recruit talent to that job from outside Turbine at present, given the rumourmill of DDO's future, and it's age in general. Someone would have to be promoted up or transferred in, and in the former that's someone else not working on doing things who would have to be replaced and that replacement trained and brought up to speed on the game engine's little foibles (oh look, something's broken a storage-related-mechanic again....), and in the latter case... would they even be invested in the game at all? Mal has been here for years, whether we saw him on the public forums or not to start with, his QA role gave the community some assurance about attention to detail when he took over (meaning we knew things would still be buggy, but I at least had some faith that no-one would want to disappoint the producer who used to run QA, so new bugs might actually get fixed at least...).

Don't begrudge Mal his new job at all, but no, all is not fine.

[Vellrad]

Lotro is even in worse shape than DDO, I know its hard to bellive, but its true.

Lotro level cap raid/dungeons are about standing on walls of helms deep, using catapults, setting traps and healing NPCs while they kill trash.

[Psiandron]

And Produktion_Malphunktion...you had time to compose a poem and a long introduction forum letter in LoTRO, but couldn't take a moment to post notice here that you left? Truly sir were you afraid of the reaction so much? One of the few but constant criticisms of DDO staff is LACK of communication and you seemed to champion more communication...except this time?


By compose a poem, I assume you mean rip off the Rolling Stones.

Wow, you all are really butt-sore over this aren't you? It is entirely within the realm of possibility that that he had to get clearance to post here. Turbine tends to not like too much information flowing this way, in case you haven't noticed. Just because Maj is a producer doesn't mean that he no longer has to answer to anyone. Also I'm guessing that they don't pay him to sit there and look good, so he may have had actual work to do rather than drop in here and blow farewell kisses.

Most importantly, I've realized that I'm hungry...

[Atremus]

Good Luck LoTR

[Merlin-ator]

Maj is leaving? :*(

I really hope this isn't an omen...


Good luck! You seem to be getting some promotions lately, maybe you'll be made CEO one day!

[B0ltdrag0n]

Good Luck LoTR

Good to know that my original reply of "My condolences" back three months ago was accurate.

[rayworks]

MajMal failing upward. Good luck, LOTRO.

[Thalone]

Taking bets on who's going to be promoted to take his place.

My plat's on one of the Quartermasters.

[Nédime]

Much hatred in this thread.

Good luck with your new job !

[Dorian]

Taking bets on who's going to be promoted to take his place.

My plat's on one of the Quartermasters.

Turbine's janitor is next in line ;)

[Ivan_Milic]

Taking bets on who's going to be promoted to take his place.

My plat's on one of the Quartermasters.

Dev Severlin.

[HAL]

Instantly? I was on the game for almost 4 years.

Hopefully (but unlikely) "The Management" will see the bad decision behind announcing you as the DDO Live Producer and then a few months later moving you to LotRO. That is what is upsetting to us. But people shouldn't be talking about you bailing since you were sent to LotRO. What people should be angry about is the questionable decisions of Turbine.

[HAL]

Lotro is even in worse shape than DDO, I know its hard to bellive, but its true.

Lotro level cap raid/dungeons are about standing on walls of helms deep, using catapults, setting traps and healing NPCs while they kill trash.

LotRO has much more new content than DDO so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

[DANTEIL]

Lotro is even in worse shape than DDO, I know its hard to bellive, but its true.

Lotro level cap raid/dungeons are about standing on walls of helms deep, using catapults, setting traps and healing NPCs while they kill trash.

I have to agree with this. Yes there's new content but it hasn't been very good for several expansions/updates now. The Helm's Deep Epic Battles and daily grind have really killed my interest in LOTRO and have sent me back to DDO, which -- as much as people complain here, and as much as it remains buggy -- feels more 'alive' than LOTRO does right now. If any place needs more help right now I would say that it is LOTRO. Time will tell whether or not Major Malphunktion will make a real difference there. In the meantime, I'm happy to be back with DDO.

[cdbd3rd]

Turbine's janitor is next in line ;)


...and all those years I kept applying for the Bristle-Pole Propulsion Technician position. :(


:p

[maddmatt70]

Instantly? I was on the game for almost 4 years.

Well at least you still got a job bro could be worse.

[kazeikan]

Yes! Katniss! She'll never pick a favorite class!!!11!!

Noooo, she will obviously buff monkchers. Pew, pew, pew.

[Vellrad]

LotRO has much more new content than DDO so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

The fact that new content in lotro is:

200-300 landscape quests. Each takes 1-2 minutes to complete, and consisnts of one or more of the follownig objectives:
kill X mobs y Bring X item Z lying on ground Keep killing mobs Y until you gather X of item Z they're carrying talk to other NPC go there and use emote (or not) and then come back.
Here, all quests in lotro summed up. The helms derp expansion is not 300 quests, its 5 quests repeated 60 times each.
Now epic battles, AKA fail battles or epic fails, the new 'brilliant' endgame dungeon developed by you know who:
You basically go there, set barricades, and wait until horde of NPCs kill 2-3 orcs rushing at them. Sometimes you throw them a heal. You got objectives, where you must leave NPCs standing near orcspawn to run to NPCs standing elsewhere. Sometimes you may have to use catapult or ballista to mass instakill advancing mobs. In all 60 (or something like that) 5-6 objectives involves PCs personally engaging mobs.
Players are just there to assist NPCs killing other NPCs.
Or you can just farm scaled version of 3 year old raid or 6 year old dungeon. Of course, scaling destroyed difficulty level, so original is unbeatable with characters at level, while lvl cap version is roflstomp with ungeared noobs at cap.

If lotro players would get 4 dungeons per update just like we do, with no landscape ****, they'd have an orgasm.
Instead, they will get (as announced) 0 normal dungeons, 0 normal raids, some new but old kill 10 orcs and bring me their underwear quests, and 1 new failed battle.

DDO have weak endgame, and it focuses on endlesly releveling your character for microscopic gain in power that can't be used anywhere, because everything's easy even on flavor builds (if they're well though out), but is still in much better situation than lotro.

In lotro, even fanbois stop playing and swear at turbine.

[Chauncey1]

http://youtu.be/ojydNb3Lrrs


Farewell is said by the living, in life, every day. It is said with love and friendship, with the affirmation that the memories are lasting if the flesh is not.-Drizzt

It was fun over the past 3+ years, I'm still reading so BEHAVE!

See you in the Realms! - Maj.

Take care and good luck!

[janave]

http://youtu.be/ojydNb3Lrrs


Farewell is said by the living, in life, every day. It is said with love and friendship, with the affirmation that the memories are lasting if the flesh is not.-Drizzt

It was fun over the past 3+ years, I'm still reading so BEHAVE!

See you in the Realms! - Maj.

Take care, and good luck with the new job/s.

[HAL]

The fact that new content in lotro is

While you may not like the new content in LotRO, the fact is that it has much more new content than DDO. More resources are being spent in LotRO than in DDO. That is a fact.

[Rykka]

Farewell is said by the living, in life, every day. It is said with love and friendship, with the affirmation that the memories are lasting if the flesh is not.-Drizzt

It was fun over the past 3+ years, I'm still reading so BEHAVE!

See you in the Realms! - Maj.

Thanks for the heads up that DDO is about to be demolished for a hyperspace bypass Mal.

Everybody grab your towel, electronic thumb, and remember that a beer or two is a muscle relaxant that'll help ease the transition.

[Soulfurnace]

Instantly? I was on the game for almost 4 years.
Even so, I'm still kinda disappointed.. I was really thinking things would change now that you had some power (or the appearance of it)

[Nédime]

While you may not like the new content in LotRO, the fact is that it has much more new content than DDO. More resources are being spent in LotRO than in DDO. That is a fact.

Well investing more on Lotro than inDDO is obvious marketing. Blah Blah JRR Tolkien blah blah Peter Jakson ...

On the other hand more new content doesn't mean better content.

[Silken-Akira]

sad to see you leave (you started up some good communication attitude) and good luck in your next quest...

[Ivan_Milic]

While you may not like the new content in LotRO, the fact is that it has much more new content than DDO. More resources are being spent in LotRO than in DDO. That is a fact.

Quality>Quantity

[Luxgolg]

Instantly? I was on the game for almost 4 years.

"instantly" as in you hit producer for DDO to put on a resume? "instantly" as in maxed level, you win DDO! "instantly" as in make sure this update makes it to live and run like hell?

[Seikojin]

I am glad he got the new role and bummed at the same time. Bummed because we never got to see his vision or direction, happy because he clearly wanted to work with LoTRO.

[Atremus]

Much hatred in this thread.

Good luck with your new job !

Someone else posted somewhere about why people are so sad. We all trusted MajMal and used him as a security blanket for all things wrong with DDO. We are sad because we liked him and are angry because it hurts to lose him. Right, Wrong or indifferent, MajMal was someone we all connected with and now we are left wondering what is next.

Anger is always a natural reaction to such a change like this.

[Nédime]

Anger is always a natural reaction to such a change like this.

Yeah, but anger leads to the dark side.

[rayworks]

Yeah, but anger leads to the dark side.

The dark side has cookies. Its not all bad.

[HAL]

Well investing more on Lotro than inDDO is obvious marketing. Blah Blah JRR Tolkien blah blah Peter Jakson ...

On the other hand more new content doesn't mean better content.


Quality>Quantity

My post was in response to a comment that Lotro is even in worse shape than DDO. I am not commenting on the quality as I have not yet played them.

[Ivan_Milic]

So how can you claim lotro is in better shape than ddo if you didnt play lotro?

[Ddodoesitagain]

So how can you claim lotro is in better shape than ddo if you didnt play lotro?

Lotro sucks as a game. I lasted about five minutes in the game before I deleted it.

[Luxgolg]

So this is what an unwanted foster-child feels like.

[HAL]

So how can you claim lotro is in better shape than ddo if you didnt play lotro?

<Sigh> I didn't say that I don't play LotRO, I said I didn't play the new content they were talking about being bad quality. I am an altoholic and so do not have a character that has yet reached above level 80.

[Ivan_Milic]

<Sigh> I didn't say that I don't play LotRO, I said I didn't play the new content they were talking about being bad quality. I am an altoholic and so do not have a character that has yet reached above level 80.

So back to my point.
How do you know lotro is in better shape than ddo now if you are not playing new content in lotro?

[slarden]

So this is what an unwanted foster-child feels like.

He left to be the producer of a better brand. It's a good career move and I wish him the best.

It's still a great game and I am sure he didn't leave because it's a sinking ship. It just looks much better on the resume.

[HAL]

So back to my point.
How do you know lotro is in better shape than ddo now if you are not playing new content in lotro?

I don't have to drive every car from every car company to know what car companies are doing well.

[Hafeal]

It was fun over the past 3+ years, I'm still reading so BEHAVE!

See you in the Realms! - Maj.

You were Live Producer for what, 3 months?

Serisouly, no wonder DDO can't get a vision.

And, no, you won't see me in the Realms. So, if you want to slum, you'll have to come visit all us sad sacks in DDO.

[Cordovan]

All right, enough. This thread is now closed.