Need help with build

[MorteCerta]

Im going to TR as a paladin and i really like the dps style. I want to know if the is any current pally build with a decent dps, maybe put some fighters lvl idk. I also have a nice GS greataxe that im looking for to use again.

So, i dont mind doing multclass but when i TR again i need the paladin past life.

[unbongwah]

First option: monk 3 / ftr 8 / pal 9. Basically a slightly gimpy centered monk / kensei due to the pally PL rqmt.

[Lonnbeimnech]

7 monk 6 fighter 7 pally
7 monk 6 ranger 7 pally
7 monk 6 rogue 7 pally

The strength of any of these builds is that you only have 7 pally levels, but still qualify for a pally past life.

If you are willing to spend a +5 heart, you could go up to 12 monk, 6 whatever, then when you hit xp cap at level 18, swap out 5 monk levels for pally and take your last 2 level ups as a paladin.

If you still have your +20 heart, then go pure sorc.

[Munkenmo]

Here (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/440555-Handwrap-Paladin?p=5309781&viewfull=1#post5309781) is a monk paladin build I wrote up for someone else last week

[unbongwah]

7 monk 6 fighter 7 pally
7 monk 6 ranger 7 pally
7 monk 6 rogue 7 pally
OP said he wanted to use his GS greataxe; that precludes any monk 6+ builds, since he needs at least ftr 8 for One w/Blade.

Not that he has to play a centered toon; something like pal 14 / ftr 2 / rog or monk 2 would be adequate for a heroic TR. The extra pally lvls get him better LoHs and Zeal (+10% doublestrike). EDIT: Pyrene (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/412000-Pyrene-the-Endgame-Paladin) would be fine too if OP wants to mix things up with Manyshot.

[MorteCerta]

Ty for the help, a pally fighter monk seems to be the right way. Does anyone have any link of this build? I never played as a paladin before and i dont want to mess it up.

[elcagador]

Ty for the help, a pally fighter monk seems to be the right way. Does anyone have any link of this build? I never played as a paladin before and i dont want to mess it up.

Well, the trick is to play like a fighter, but with robes/outfits for evasion and monk stances.

Paladin 9/Fighter 8/monk 3 is a good splash if want to use greataxes, Using Fighter 8 levels with kensai tree for keen edge, one with the blade, haste boost, etc, Monk 3 for fists of light, adept and master of forms (mountain stance), then can take some sacred defender enhancements for defensive stance with more PRR and saves and few Kinight of the chalice for divine might.

About race, Bladeforged would be the first option for sla reconstruct, but if dont have it could go Half elf (for divine scrolls usage), Elf (for dragonmark displacement, just drop 2 feats for dragonmark and extend spell), Human (for extra feat and heal amp) or dwarf (more tactical dc and hitpoints).

Leveling order could be: Monk (more skill points), Fighter, Monk (evasion), Fighter x7, Monk, Paladin x9.

Level 1 Feats: Power attack, Monk feat: Toughness, (If human extra feat: Stunning blow)
2 Fighter feat: Cleave
3 Feat: Two handed fighting, Monk feat: dodge
4 Fighter feat: weapon focus slashing
6 feat: adept of forms, Fighter feat: weapon specialization
8 Fighter feat: great cleave
9 Feat: IC slashing weapons
10 Fighter feat: greater weapon focus
11 Monk feat: fists of light
12 Feat: master of forms
15 Feat: Improved Two handed fighting
18 Feat: Stunning blow (if human Greater two handed fighting)

stats: str 16, dex 10, Con 14, Int 12, wis 8, cha 14, lvl ups on str. Skills: Intimidate, (umd if have gear for it), jump, heal (if playing with cocoon on epics), balance, 1 pt on tumble.

[MorteCerta]

Well, the trick is to play like a fighter, but with robes/outfits for evasion and monk stances.

Paladin 9/Fighter 8/monk 3 is a good splash if want to use greataxes, Using Fighter 8 levels with kensai tree for keen edge, one with the blade, haste boost, etc, Monk 3 for fists of light, adept and master of forms (mountain stance), then can take some sacred defender enhancements for defensive stance with more PRR and saves and few Kinight of the chalice for divine might.

About race, Bladeforged would be the first option for sla reconstruct, but if dont have it could go Half elf (for divine scrolls usage) or Human (for extra feat and heal amp) or dwarf (more tactical dc and hitpoints).

Leveling order could be: Monk (more skill points), Fighter, Monk (evasion), Fighter x7, Monk, Paladin x9.

Level 1 Feats: Power attack, Monk feat: Toughness, (If human extra feat: Stunning blow)
2 Fighter feat: Cleave
3 Feat: Two handed fighting, Monk feat: dodge
4 Fighter feat: weapon focus slashing
6 feat: adept of forms, Fighter feat: weapon specialization
8 Fighter feat: great cleave
9 Feat: IC slashing weapons
10 Fighter feat: greater weapon focus
11 Monk feat: fists of light
12 Feat: master of forms
15 Feat: Improved Two handed fighting
18 Feat: Stunning blow (if human Greater two handed fighting)

stats: str 16, dex 10, Con 14, Int 12, wis 8, cha 14, lvl ups on str. Skills: Intimidate, (umd if have gear for it), jump, heal (if playing with cocoon on epics), balance, 1 pt on tumble.


Tyvm, seems a pretty solid build, i think im gona try this one.

[unbongwah]

About race, Bladeforged would be the first option for sla reconstruct, but if dont have it could go Half elf (for divine scrolls usage) or Human (for extra feat and heal amp) or dwarf (more tactical dc and hitpoints).
If this is just for an HTR, Bladeforged isn't the best choice. I would also consider halfling w/DMs for self-healing.

[AidanRyuko]

Out of the 3 paladin lives I did I also liked fighter splash best, mine looked like
12 pal/6 fig/2 rog, because pally and fighter only gives 2 skill points base it's not viable to get trapping unlocked, but you get UMD as a class skill and evasion for picking rogue. You can use UMD for heal scrolls and other nice stuff like displacement and raise dead. I also tried a tank paladin which lacked in offense because of it and a reflex pally that got to 101 reflex before TRing at 20, was fun but also not so fast in killing.

It's a matter of weighing off with what monk has to offer, Monk gives 2 extra feats (but aren't needed), +3 more will and fort saves, +2 to a stat you prefer with stance. But you will have to live with limited self heals and without displacement, shadow walk, raise dead, protect evil etc. and 1d6 sneak attack damage. What do you prefer?^^

edit: if you find yourself lacking will saves you can get the Force of personality feat for another stacking bonus to will saves based on your cha modifier (IE if your modifier is +10, you will get a +20 bonus to will saves with divine grace + force of personality).

[elcagador]

If this is just for an HTR, Bladeforged isn't the best choice. I would also consider halfling w/DMs for self-healing.

Yep. I also forgot to mention Elf race, that gives displacement with 1 feat dragonmark (also extend spell feat would be nice for that, in that case can drop 2 feats for that) and dragonmark enhancements if don't have Gs clickies.

[Seikojin]

The big one these days is X+2pal+2monk. Get yourself super high saves from pal boosting on top of normal class boosting, then main whatever class you want to specialize in. Of course, bards, barbs, and druids are out due to pal.

[elcagador]

Tyvm, seems a pretty solid build, i think im gona try this one.

Your welcome. Another very powerful splash for a paladin life is the Quarterstaff option (could be your next paladin life after this one), 8 Paladin/6 Monk/6 Rogue or Paladin 9/Monk 9/rogue 2, capable of traps, full umd, great saves, good defense and high dps with quaterstaffs using henshin mystic and acrobat trees with some sneak dmg.

[unbongwah]

8 Paladin/6 Monk/6 Rogue
I'm debating whether to use this split or my own Knight of the Holy Stick build to run thru a few ITRs to get both SDK and pally PLs (two birds, one stone). A little worried about the lack of self-heals, but I'll refine it when the time comes.