Ferrael of the Autumn Wood: A Grace, Displacement, Dex to Damage Pure Fighter

[adrian69]

Updated the build. This would probably work out well TWF with rapiers these days. I ran across by chance, and since Would Elfs are a thing now I updated it. If you want to go Longswords/Scims/Falchions, take the alternate feat selections. You will not have much to-hit and you'll be at least up too 35 down at cap. To-hit isn't that big of a deal on a 3rd+lifer with tomes, until you hit high heroics and legendary content.

Agile Fighter
Fighter 20
Wood Elf


Stats
. . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .--------
Strength. . . . 12. . . .+7. . . .4: DEX
Dexterity . . . 18. . . .+7. . . .8: DEX
Constitution. . 16. . . .+7. . . 12: DEX
Intelligence. . 14. . . .+7. . . 16: DEX
Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+7. . . 20: DEX
Charisma. . . . 10. . . .+7. . . 24: DEX
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: DEX

Skills
. . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Intim . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Search. . 2. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 11
Spot. . . 1. 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 .11
UMD . . . 2. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 11
Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .16. 3. 5. 3. 5. 3. 5. 3. 5. 3. 5. 3. 5. 3. 5. 3. 5. 3. 5. 3
Max . . .16. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 6. 6. 6. 6. 6. 6. 6. 6. 7. 7. 7. 7. 7. 7


Feats

.1. . . . : Two Weapon Fighting
.1 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Piercing OR Slashing
.2 Fighter: Power Attack
.3. . . . : Cleave
.4 Fighter: Great Cleave
.6. . . . : Weapon Specialization: Piercing OR Slashing
.6 Fighter: Improved Two Weapon Fighting
.8 Fighter: Improved Critical: Piercing OR Slashing
.9. . . . : Greater Weapon Focus: Piercing OR Slashing
10 Fighter: Heavy Armor Master
12. . . . : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
12 Fighter: Greater Weapon Specialization: Piercing OR Slashing
14 Fighter: Weapon Finesse OR Knight's Training
15. . . . : Heavy Armor Champion
16 Fighter: Heavy Armor Combatant
18. . . . : Tactical Mastery
18 Fighter: Tactical Supremacy
20 Fighter: Tactical Combatant
21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic . : Precision
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic . : Blinding Speed
28 Destiny: Elusive Target
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic . : Epic Reflexes OR Epic Damage Reduction
30 Legend :


Enhancements (79+14 of 80+14 AP)

Kensei (41 AP) Kensei Focus: Light Blades, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought, Power Surge, One Cut, Alacrity Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization
Weapon Group Specialization, Ascetic Training: Agility III
Critical Mastery III, Weapon Group Specialization, Shattering Strike I, Dexterity
Opportunity Attack, Weapon Group Specialization, Liquid Courage, Strike at the Heart, Dexterity
A Good Death: Melee, Weapon Master, One with the Blade, Deadly Strike, Keen Edge
Stalwart Defender (24 AP) Toughness, Stalwart Defense Durable Defense III, Stalwart Defensive Mastery III
Resilient Defense III, Armor Expertise III, Instinctive Defense III
Strong Defense III
Swift Defense, Hardy Defense III
Wood Elf (20 AP) Elven Accuracy, Dexterity, Elven Accuracy II, Dexterity Elven Weapon Training, Arcane Fluidity I
Wild Step, Elven Weapon Training
Rugged Upbringing, Elven Weapon Training
Wild Swings, Forest's Finesse, Elven Weapon Training, Skill
Harper Agent (8 AP) Agent of Good I Harper Enchantment, Traveler's Toughness II
Know the Angles III

[adrian69]

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[adrian69]

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[unbongwah]

Dex to hit and dmg with the minor downside of using being stuck with Schims instead of Khops, but also the ability to use a falchion with at least +14 dmg and 8 to hit + 4% (maybe 18 dmg because I am underestimating what I am picking up from weapons feats I believe)
Elven Grace provides DEX-to-dmg, but not DEX-to-hit. If you want DEX-to-hit with scimitars, you can either go for Tempest (rgr lvl 3) or be a centered monk / Kensei with Ninja Training; for falchions I believe Ninja Training is your only option.

[AbyssalMage]

I haven’t got gear figured out, so I can’t break down armor stats, if I am breaking down things right at the moment.
Your only playing in Kensei tree so AC will be average which isn't bad but not needed.


I know it’s not str khops build, nor a raging barbarian machine, but please let me know what you think. I worked with feats for a while, and though I am satisfied with my selection, I am still wrestling with the order. I didn't put the alignment in or the sex, as that is a personal choice.
Not sure why you are going Dex based, unless it is for flavor which is always a person choice, I do things like that myself. If it is something I am overlooking, sorry.

[Nayus]

Your only playing in Kensei tree so AC will be average which isn't bad but not needed.


Not sure why you are going Dex based, unless it is for flavor which is always a person choice, I do things like that myself. If it is something I am overlooking, sorry.
I believe he's basically going for the Dragonmark, he needs to spend AP somewhere to unlock the higher tiers thus getting Valenar +DMG enh, when you reach that point it's just a few AP to get DEX to Damage to unlock Skill for 3% doublestrike and dodge. I did something similar on my melee wizard elf, I wanted Feywild Tap and then it would be too sorry not to make the most out of the tree.

Elven Grace provides DEX-to-dmg, but not DEX-to-hit. If you want DEX-to-hit with scimitars, you can either go for Tempest (rgr lvl 3) or be a centered monk / Kensei with Ninja Training; for falchions I believe Ninja Training is your only option.I was about to say that... you need Weapon Finesse there.

[adrian69]

Not sure why you are going Dex based, unless it is for flavor which is always a person choice, I do things like that myself. If it is something I am overlooking, sorry.

It is definitely a flavor build. I wanted a pure fighter that played similar to a tempest, minus all those ranged goodies and the dervish. I actually came up with this last summer before I lost my original account, and I wanted to compare the DPS between pure fighter and ranger running dex builds. Anyways, it's all DDO science.



Elven Grace provides DEX-to-dmg, but not DEX-to-hit. If you want DEX-to-hit with scimitars, you can either go for Tempest (rgr lvl 3) or be a centered monk / Kensei with Ninja Training; for falchions I believe Ninja Training is your only option.

Good catch. I believe, if it hasn't changed, weapon finesse will work with schims, but I've honestly never tried it out of the built in ranger PrE. I know it covers rapiers, which are coded as 1-h weapons--not light. If in any case, I fell that 18 str and +8 hit should be enough to maintain a good hit chance in heroics levels. I don't think Ninja Training 2nd core ability will cover the 2h falcion, but I may be wrong...


I believe he's basically going for the Dragonmark, he needs to spend AP somewhere to unlock the higher tiers thus getting Valenar +DMG enh, when you reach that point it's just a few AP to get DEX to Damage to unlock Skill for 3% doublestrike and dodge. I did something similar on my melee wizard elf, I wanted Feywild Tap and then it would be too sorry not to make the most out of the tree.
I was about to say that... you need Weapon Finesse there.

I built it around grace and +3% ds and melee/ranged speed (can't remember the name of the enhancement off the top of my head). However, when I relieved I could have some displacement as a fighter and I wanted it. I didn't have to sacrifice much to have it. Sure there are some defensive things I could have taken, but I know that this build might work well until about 22-25 and then go downhill. However, it I could be wrong.

I had an account uptil August of last year with two complete completionist lives, 1 on Khyber and the other on Orien. Someone I used to be married too decided to hack and delete my account, so I am just coming back and working on another completion life with all these new and not so good goodies I didn't have the first time around.

[CThruTheEgo]

I believe, if it hasn't changed, weapon finesse will work with schims, but I've honestly never tried it out of the built in ranger PrE. I know it covers rapiers, which are coded as 1-h weapons--not light. If in any case, I fell that 18 str and +8 hit should be enough to maintain a good hit chance in heroics levels. I don't think Ninja Training 2nd core ability will cover the 2h falcion, but I may be wrong...

Weapon finesse does not, and never did, work with scimitars. Tempest allows you to use dex to hit and damage for scimitars, but does not require weapon finesse. Ninja training will allow you to use dex to hit and damage with any piercing or slashing weapon as long as you are centered, which requires kensai's tier 5 one with the blade for non-monk weapons.

I know you said you're set on pure fighter, but you might want to take a look at Santa's Little Slayer in my sig. It might at least give you some ideas. It has many of the same features that you are looking for: dex based, twf, elf with dragonmark and weapon lines.

[Mindos]

50% miss chance from Lesser Dragonmark of shadow w/ just enough AP used to get 4 three minute casts of displacement at lvl 20. Not sure if it extends with epic lvls or not.

I believe this does scale up with epic levels.

[CThruTheEgo]

50% miss chance from Lesser Dragonmark of shadow w/ just enough AP used to get 4 three minute casts of displacement at lvl 20. Not sure if it extends with epic lvls or not. Still, over a minute of displacement should be enough to get through a hard spot.

I can confirm that epic levels will add to the duration of the dragonmarks. At level 28 you will have 4 charges that give 2 minutes and 48 seconds for a total of 11 minutes and 12 seconds of displacement. This will be sufficient for most content but you will find times when you have to be selective about when to use it since it won't last between shrines.

[Feralthyrtiaq]

Weapon finesse does not, and never did, work with scimitars. Tempest allows you to use dex to hit and damage for scimitars, but does not require weapon finesse. Ninja training will allow you to use dex to hit and damage with any piercing or slashing weapon as long as you are centered, which requires kensai's tier 5 one with the blade for non-monk weapons.

I know you said you're set on pure fighter, but you might want to take a look at Santa's Little Slayer in my sig. It might at least give you some ideas. It has many of the same features that you are looking for: dex based, twf, elf with dragonmark and weapon lines.


In addition, my Helf 2Arti/6Monk/12Kensai became un-centered with any/all scimitars despite having the Kensai Heavy Blades line (in which Scimitars are included) AND One with the Blade...found this out after dusting off and LRing +20 my 2rogue/18fighter into this build.

Longswords, Greatswords, Falchions => Centered.

A Feat Swap to Get Khopesh and AP reset for Exotic Heavy Blades and Centered with Khopeshes.

Scimitars....UNCENTERED FFS. So TR to WF Int Based Assassin /shrug