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Knightsubzero
02-10-2014, 03:16 PM
Ok so if there is one thing everyone hates...well every mage, wiz, artificer, cleric etc....is carrying around different types of scrolls.

and if there is one thing Turbine likes its money.

so put the two together peanut butter and Jam style.


what i suggest is this....

give a scroll case as a quest reward, a house P or J favour award or something similar, this case only holds six scrolls.

but....on the turbine store you can buy a scroll case for 20 scrolls, maybe even a more expensive one for 30 scrolls. this is something people would definitely buy for a minimal amount of scripting.

in addition to this you could also have a potion box or Pouch(or even a belt with potion slots that you can also craft as a normal belt!!!) ...i normally carry around about 10 types of pots how about you? i would spend 50 or 100 or 200 tb on that.

what about a spell components pouch as well? 50tb

people would buy this stuff im sure!.


please support and bump this thread if you would like something like this.

P.s. Rangers need a pet:D

Livmo
02-10-2014, 03:21 PM
I liked the scroll cases from the Baulders Gate and Icewind Dale game series. I wish we had them in DDO.

redspecter23
02-10-2014, 03:25 PM
I would pay money for a potion pouch. I'd pay even more if it had the ability to stack in greater numbers. Perhaps the lowest tier would be 6 slots at 100 potions per slot (including silver flame pots) all the way up to 20 potions at 1000 per slot. The combination of consolidation, extra space and silver flame pot storage would make this a real winner for me. I'd be willing to pay 1000+ TP for the highest tier one mentioned here, even if it's per character.

It might be slightly more complicated to do something similar with scrolls as they get swapped in and out of equipped status while in use, but it doesn't make me want it any less.

Livmo
02-10-2014, 04:07 PM
I would pay money for a potion pouch. I'd pay even more if it had the ability to stack in greater numbers. Perhaps the lowest tier would be 6 slots at 100 potions per slot (including silver flame pots) all the way up to 20 potions at 1000 per slot. The combination of consolidation, extra space and silver flame pot storage would make this a real winner for me. I'd be willing to pay 1000+ TP for the highest tier one mentioned here, even if it's per character.

It might be slightly more complicated to do something similar with scrolls as they get swapped in and out of equipped status while in use, but it doesn't make me want it any less.

I would welcome potion bags and spell component bags (along with scroll cases) to DDO with my wallet. Perhaps for balance have one of the 3 be free from an achievement award, the next free to VIPs (1 free BtA, but also purchaseble in DDO store by anyone), and the 3rd container drop or be obtainable from a free event (but purchaseable year round in store by anyone).

Livmo
02-10-2014, 04:12 PM
This is how I feel about scroll, potion, and spell component containers in general:

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/264/200/acb.jpg

sifubob
02-10-2014, 04:16 PM
I thought part of the problem with bags in general is that you cant use the things contained in them from the hotbar, kinda like the cookie jar.

would you still be so keen on buying a spell component pouch if you couldn't use the items inside until you took them out of the bag?

Livmo
02-10-2014, 04:23 PM
I thought part of the problem with bags in general is that you cant use the things contained in them from the hotbar, kinda like the cookie jar.

would you still be so keen on buying a spell component pouch if you couldn't use the items inside until you took them out of the bag?

http://ddowiki.com/images/Crystallized_Residuum.png

I go thru 1 to 2k per weekend. I can stop and remove them from the container. Would like to stack 10k of each component in the bag. 1000 potions and 1000 of each scroll I use.

Impaqt
02-10-2014, 04:27 PM
Been suggested dozens of times. long ago we were told there was a technical limitation why these cant happen. Something like the inability to use items directly from a bag.
So unless you really want to stop and pull stuff out of the component bag every 5 minutes, its kinda a dead issue.

Knightsubzero
02-10-2014, 08:15 PM
even if it was a container you cant use items from directly it would be valuable.

at any rate they manage to make the quivers usable by having an "active" slot, surely they can do a similar thing with potions, spell components even scrolls.

also....think of the $$$ with money you can make anything happen.

i think people would also pay for visible cloaks...its not 1993 anymore, you can make this stuff happen.

TrinityTurtle
02-10-2014, 08:20 PM
We've been asking for this for the entire five years I've been here. LOL Although I seem to recall there was some sort of issue that they couldn't make the spells fire off from things in the case, and let's face it, while some would just be happy for storage, there would be a lot of rage if they couldn't cast from it. But omg if I thought I wanted one back when I was a sorc, I didn't understand the inventory space eaten by scrolls until artificers came out. *falls over under the weight of...paper...*

toaftoaf
02-10-2014, 08:21 PM
my guess is if they did try to make this they would work as good as quivers,, , , ,

Impaqt
02-10-2014, 09:15 PM
my guess is if they did try to make this they would work as good as quivers,, , , ,

Exactly.

And every time we cast a spell, Use a scroll, or drink a potion, Out it pops from the bag... Into Inventory... to take up space we thought we saved by having a bag.

now we're regathering our Consumables bags every 5 minutes.. That sounds like fun...

Oh wait, My onmi dust was accidentally in front of my level 1 spell components.. Oh well.... :rolleyes:

biggin
02-11-2014, 06:42 AM
As others have stated, for some reason technically they don't seem able to make this work. The 'if they can charge for it they can make it work' theory doesn't apply. Think about it this way. They make cosmetic armor, some people buy it, some don't. Hearts of wood, Otto's boxes, again some buy them, some don't. I would assume that if they made potion, scroll and spell component bags that it would probably be purchased by just about every player on every server. It would be the equivalent in sales of new content and yet they haven't ever done it.

Like a few others who have been here for a while, this has been requested over and over and I would think that every Turbine employee including the guy who stocks the vending machine knows that it's something that would sell as fast as anything they have ever put in the store. While it is a great idea, and one brought up many times, they are just not able to make it viable. Call it shortsighted on the part of the original code but it just won't happen unless they (if I had to guess) completely rework how spells are cast and items are used. I know in theory they can, like redoing the enhancement system but maybe it's been tried and found to buggy to work correctly. The last thing we want is for something of this magnitude to get released and have it not work. I don't know, I just honestly believe if they could they would.

FalseFlag
02-11-2014, 07:43 AM
Been suggested. Suggestion been poo-poo'd.

would you still be so keen on buying a spell component pouch if you couldn't use the items inside until you took them out of the bag?
For everything except spell components, yes. No question. For spell components, they essentially need to give all casters Eschew Materials for free or figure out how to implement

Spell Component Pouch
A spellcaster with a spell component pouch is assumed to have all the material components and focuses needed for spellcasting, except for those components that have a specific cost, divine focuses, and focuses that wouldn’t fit in a pouch. which is from 3E. You know, the game this is based on. And which costs a whopping 5 gp and weighs 2 pounds. Essentially, your spell components need to act like the omnispell dust or whatever - one stack, applies to all spells except those with special components (such as stoneskin). But then they wouldn't make money off the dust.

biggin
02-11-2014, 10:23 AM
Been suggested. Suggestion been poo-poo'd.

For everything except spell components, yes. No question. For spell components, they essentially need to give all casters Eschew Materials for free or figure out how to implement
which is from 3E. You know, the game this is based on. And which costs a whopping 5 gp and weighs 2 pounds. Essentially, your spell components need to act like the omnispell dust or whatever - one stack, applies to all spells except those with special components (such as stoneskin). But then they wouldn't make money off the dust.

I wonder if they could make something like Omnispell Dust for scrolls? Kind of how a staff with multiple effects or the Resist Energy spell. We could buy a stack of 1000, all at the level 9 price, but then select which scroll use to drag to hotbar. That way it in effect would only take up one slot but you could assign whatever scroll you wanted. Might take a bit to get set up and would be hell if you accidentally drag one off during a fight (like a res scroll) but would solve the problem with a system they already have in place just with a different application.

shadowowl
02-11-2014, 04:59 PM
even if it was a container you cant use items from directly it would be valuable.



i think people would also pay for visible cloaks...its not 1993 anymore, you can make this stuff happen.

visible cloaks were in lotro when it was released also made by turbine and released the same year i think only 6 months or so after. still not sure why they don't have them in ddo.

Irenae
02-13-2014, 07:10 PM
While I do think there should be scroll cases, they should be sold in the DDO store only right next to the hireling contract cases. For the same tp cost and it would probably sell well.