Bladeforged Pally help needed

[onehalfelf]

With the change to the new enhancement system in addition to the addition of bladeforged iconics to the game, I am a little confused about how best to set up a bladeforged paladin. A little background to start with --- I've played mostly lower level characters of every race and class (and PRE), so I am VERY familiar with the lower level quests. When I first tried a bladeforged at level 15 though, I immediately got trounced. Here's the build I've come up with so far --- any advice is much appreciated.


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Tantalithus
Level 20 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male
(20 Paladin)
Hit Points: 320
Spell Points: 260
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 10
Will: 11

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 15 20 22
Dexterity 10 10 10
Constitution 16 16 18
Intelligence 10 10 10
Wisdom 10 10 10
Charisma 15 15 17

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 1 10.5 7.5
Bluff 2 3 3
Concentration 3 4 4
Diplomacy 2 3 3
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 2 3 3
Heal 0 0 0
Hide 0 0 -5
Intimidate 2 3 3
Jump 2 6 1
Listen 0 0 1
Move Silently 0 0 -5
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 0 0 1
Search 0 0 1
Spellcraft 0 0 0
Spot 0 0 1
Swim 2 6 -4
Tumble 1 1 -4
Use Magic Device 4 14.5 14.5

Level 1 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good
Feat: (Automatic) Bladeforged
Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Traits
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Sentinel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead I (Rank 1)


Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Grace
Feat: (Automatic) Lay on Hands
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Healer's Friend (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Construct Toughness (Rank 1)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Health
Feat: (Automatic) Fear Immunity
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Construct Stability (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Fearsome Presence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Construct Toughness (Rank 1)


Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bladesworn Transformation
Feat: (Automatic) Remove Disease
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)


Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Weapon Attachment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Power of the Forge (Rank 1)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Warforged Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Handling (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)


Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)


Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Warforged Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Damage Reduction (Rank 1)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Damage Reduction (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)


Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)


Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Child of the Lord of Blades
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Sealed Life (Rank 1)


Level 17 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Outsiders (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 3)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Beloved of the Lord of Blades
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)


Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 2)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Champion of Good (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 3)




For ease of reading, here it is without enhancements:

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Tantalithus
Level 20 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male
(20 Paladin)
Hit Points: 320
Spell Points: 260
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 10
Will: 11

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 15 20 22
Dexterity 10 10 10
Constitution 16 16 18
Intelligence 10 10 10
Wisdom 10 10 10
Charisma 15 15 17

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 1 10.5 7.5
Bluff 2 3 3
Concentration 3 4 4
Diplomacy 2 3 3
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 2 3 3
Heal 0 0 0
Hide 0 0 -5
Intimidate 2 3 3
Jump 2 6 1
Listen 0 0 1
Move Silently 0 0 -5
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 0 0 1
Search 0 0 1
Spellcraft 0 0 0
Spot 0 0 1
Swim 2 6 -4
Tumble 1 1 -4
Use Magic Device 4 14.5 14.5

Level 1 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades


Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Child of the Lord of Blades


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 17 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Beloved of the Lord of Blades


Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)




And the enhancements:

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Level 20 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male
(20 Paladin)
Hit Points: 320
Spell Points: 260
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 10
Will: 11

Level 1 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Sentinel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead I (Rank 1)


Level 2 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Healer's Friend (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Construct Toughness (Rank 1)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)


Level 4 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Construct Stability (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Fearsome Presence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Construct Toughness (Rank 1)


Level 5 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)


Level 7 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Weapon Attachment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Power of the Forge (Rank 1)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Warforged Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Handling (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)


Level 10 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)


Level 11 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Warforged Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Damage Reduction (Rank 1)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Damage Reduction (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)


Level 13 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)


Level 14 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)


Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Sealed Life (Rank 1)


Level 17 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Outsiders (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 3)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)


Level 19 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 2)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Champion of Good (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 3)




My only goal is that I would like to keep it a pure paladin all the way through Epic. As far as what to do once I reach level 21, I need some good recommendations. Thanks again!

[Violith]

I have a bladeforged pali at lvl 25 currently, I originally built him before the enhancement pass as a S&B tank with DM so his Char is higher then needbe but that helps with current DM as well as saves.
current stats are below, couldnt tell what he started with, these are his at lvl 25.
Str=19+3 base for overwhelming crit
dex=6 (doesnt need dex)
Con=18+2 never found the +3 tome/upgrade for epic toughness. and 50hp wasnt needed bad enough to buy it.
Intel=10+2 mainly for the extra skill pt. I Maxed intimidate and UMD, but repair would've prob been a better choice.
Wisdom=8+2 All it need to be, as a 8+6item will get you to 14 (pali's can only cast lvl 4 spells so thats all they need),
Char=18+3 originally set up for the old DM, so that high isnt needed. but currently mine is only +3 dmg lower then the old enhancement with room for improving it



from looking at yours, you'll probaly want to raise base str so you hit str23 by lvl 21, and lower your dex, since bladeforge get a -2dex you spent like 4 pts there to hit 10, dex isnt needed on a paladin, also Child of the Lord of Blades and Beloved of the Lord of Blades are wasted feats, only +2attack and dmg, probably should get cleave/great cleave so you can qualify for OC, much better DPS option. and would compliment your THF style better.

enhancemnet wise, seems like you wasted alot of AP in the bladeforge tree, if you wanted to be able to be healed good by healers, you'll probably need more then 1 rank in healers friend (bladeforge start at 45% HAmp and 1 rank is only taking that to 55%, with the koc hamp you'll be close to 100 even without that and with an item you should be over) a better option would be to take the repair amp, and the reconstruct SLA (t3 costs 25sp and cd of 6sec rather then the t1 cost of 35 and cd of 30sec), that with LOH should be enough to keep yourself alive without having to rely on healers, and there isnt much difference between a 45% and 55% penalty to healing to healers, they tend to overheal anyway.

on my bladeforge, without any repair skill or repair amp he repairs himself 276 (crit for 550), with the repair amp trinket you get as a starte he heals 303 (crit for 606), which since he usually uses it at 30-50% hp it'll get him to full or close to it with the normal. if you invested in repair skill and amp that could go higher.

it seems like you were just trying to fill AP in, comm of sentinel, construct toughness, construct stability, improved fort r2, and improved damage reduct (+1 to a few skills, 10hp, 25% fort, and 2dmg reduct) are all wasted AP ot really giivng you much of anything. improved fort could be used on EE"s, but probably isnt needed, mobs can only bypass fort up to their CR, and with the core1 (50% fort) a 120% for item (common in epics) your already over what any current mob could deal to you. plus there are exceptional fort items (which stack) and twists that add to fort, so anymore then the core1 to unlock the tree isnt needed, and hte others are merely +1 to repair, listen, spot, search, will, fort, and a +2 to balance, and 10hp. ... ultimately not that useful. instead I would go (imrpoved fort r1, repair amp r1 (or healers friend), warforge constitution (if con is odd) or repair amp/healers friend r2, comm of scribing r1-3, comm of warding r1-3, weapon attachment, power of forge. and then anything else you wanna add)

your koc enhancements seem to have a 1-2 repeated ones. not too familiar with koc, as i went and capped DOS and only splashed in exalted smite and DM's, so cant comment on usefulness with them.

[onehalfelf]

Kind of figured I had a lot wrong. I'll take another shot at it and post what I come up with.

[unbongwah]

My only goal is that I would like to keep it a pure paladin all the way through Epic.
This is going to make things more challenging, as pure pallies have weak DPS compared to, say, monk / kensei; even just adding a ftr splash helps out w/extra feats, Haste Boost, etc.

Nevertheless, for a pure BF pally, I'd do something like this:

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Level 28 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male
(20 Paladin \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 404
Spell Points: 340
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 9
Will: 9

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 17 26
Dexterity 6 6
Constitution 16 16
Intelligence 10 10
Wisdom 7 7
Charisma 16 18

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Handling (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Weapon Attachment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Power of the Forge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Outsiders (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Champion of Good (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 2)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Magical Training


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target


Primarily DPS-focused (specced for EOs), but with good survivability as well: 20% repair amp, 57 base PRR at lvl 20 (20 Addy Body + 25 Sacred defensive stance+ 12 Warding), 4 LoHs, Reconstruct SLA. Magical Training is for Echoes of Power; Twist in Endless Faith from Exalted Angel to boost it to 30 SPs, enough for Reconstruct SLA & Zeal. [My BF pally took a wiz splash for MT + Quicken feat, but you said pure, so I kept it pure.]

As stated, all you need is WIS 14 for lvl 4 spells, so base WIS 7 + 7 item is sufficient; but this may make things more challenging initially if you don't have the right gear to start. I started INT 10 to max out two skills (e.g., Intim + Repair); naturally you'll need higher INT if you want more skill pts.

You could drop the metamagics for THF chain instead; depends on whether extra DPS or survivability / self-sufficiency is more important to you. My view is the attraction of pure pally is the latter. You could also switch to S&B / Shield Mastery feats if you wanted a more tank-y build; but that would look quite different.

[onehalfelf]

Kind of figured I had a lot wrong. I'll take another shot at it and post what I come up with.

Here's what I came up with for the improved (hopefully) version. Many thanks Violith! As always, all comments/criticism/advice is welcome.


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Level 28 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male
(20 Paladin \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 424
Spell Points: 260
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 8
Will: 9

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28) (Level 28)
Strength 18 24 26
Dexterity 6 6 6
Constitution 16 17 18
Intelligence 10 10 10
Wisdom 8 8 8
Charisma 14 14 16

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28) (Level 28)
Balance -2 -2 7
Bluff 2 3 11
Concentration 3 4 12
Diplomacy 2 3 11
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 2 3 11
Heal -1 -1 7
Hide -2 -2 1
Intimidate 2 4 12
Jump 4 8 11
Listen -1 -1 7
Move Silently -2 -2 1
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 1 10 24
Search 0 0 8
Spellcraft 0 0 8
Spot -1 -1 7
Swim 4 8 6
Tumble -1 -1 2
Use Magic Device 4 14.5 22.5

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike




And the enhancements...


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Level 20 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male
(20 Paladin)
Hit Points: 320
Spell Points: 260
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 8
Will: 9

Level 1 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead I (Rank 1)


Level 2 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 3)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Fearsome Presence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)


Level 4 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Warforged Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 1)


Level 5 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 2)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Construct Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 3)


Level 7 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Weapon Attachment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Handling (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)


Level 10 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Construct Toughness (Rank 1)


Level 11 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Construct Stability (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Construct Stability (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Construct Stability (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 3)


Level 13 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)


Level 14 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)


Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Sealed Life (Rank 1)


Level 17 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Outsiders (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 3)


Level 19 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 3)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Champion of Good (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 3)




As you can see I am still pulling 31 AP from the Bladeforged tree --- I really wanted Weapon Attachment and Communion of Handling, but I was also happily able to get all that I wanted from the Knight of the Chalice tree. My only question is whether I will miss the Extra Smite and Exalted Smite enhancements.

Unbongwah, I just noticed you also posted. I'll take a look and may be modifying a bit more --- you've always had great advice for me!

[onehalfelf]

This is going to make things more challenging, as pure pallies have weak DPS compared to, say, monk / kensei; even just adding a ftr splash helps out w/extra feats, Haste Boost, etc.

Nevertheless, for a pure BF pally, I'd do something like this:

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Level 28 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male
(20 Paladin \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 404
Spell Points: 340
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 9
Will: 9

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 17 26
Dexterity 6 6
Constitution 16 16
Intelligence 10 10
Wisdom 7 7
Charisma 16 18

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Scribing (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Handling (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Weapon Attachment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Power of the Forge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Damage Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Outsiders (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Mechanist (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Bladeforged - Improved Power Attack (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Champion of Good (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 2)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Magical Training


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target


Primarily DPS-focused (specced for EOs), but with good survivability as well: 20% repair amp, 57 base PRR at lvl 20 (20 Addy Body + 25 Sacred defensive stance+ 12 Warding), 4 LoHs, Reconstruct SLA. Magical Training is for Echoes of Power; Twist in Endless Faith from Exalted Angel to boost it to 30 SPs, enough for Reconstruct SLA & Zeal. [My BF pally took a wiz splash for MT + Quicken feat, but you said pure, so I kept it pure.]

As stated, all you need is WIS 14 for lvl 4 spells, so base WIS 7 + 7 item is sufficient; but this may make things more challenging initially if you don't have the right gear to start. I started INT 10 to max out two skills (e.g., Intim + Repair); naturally you'll need higher INT if you want more skill pts.

You could drop the metamagics for THF chain instead; depends on whether extra DPS or survivability / self-sufficiency is more important to you. My view is the attraction of pure pally is the latter. You could also switch to S&B / Shield Mastery feats if you wanted a more tank-y build; but that would look quite different.

This is very encouraging. I went a little different way, but I'll have to rethink adding in a few things from the Sacred Defender tree. I did choose to go with THF vs. the metamagics, but my survivability should be helped a wee bit by the +30 healing amp given to me by Vigor of Life. We'll see how that goes...

[unbongwah]

As a BF, you'll have Reconstruct SLA and RCW; so you ought to be fully self-sufficient and not need heal amp (knock on wood).

I know you said you wanted pure, but a "lite" splash like ftr 1 / wiz 1 would really help out: ftr 1 for the extra feat & Haste Boost, wiz 1 for free Magical Training & meta feat (I suggest Quicken). The extra feats means there's enough room for the THF chain plus one more feat (e.g., Extend).