CLR17/WIZ1/FTR2 Human Melee THF has +5 Supreme tome. What to do?

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Been staring at outrageous Tome prices for years at the store, but I decided to get my main a holiday present. I only buy TP at triple bonus and the Supreme was 25% off too. Just seemed like a good deal. I don't TR or Grind much stuff, and want to keep up going on to lvl30 with this guy.

The lvl30 update will probably have +6 tomes and +11 items, roll:

This is close to the current build. What stats to take? With +5 it is hard to spend more than 2 points for a STAT point. Hard to spend more than 1 point on a Stat point for this Generalist build. Thinking of swapping out Toughness for a little TWF just the first feat to use Axe of Adaxus and for double Smite Healing. How does the TWF work with the Cleaves and Momentum Swing and Smite Healing? Adrenaline with those Axes seems nice at 4x? Right now I just use the EAGA.

Thinking

Con 15
INT 8
the rest 14.
LVL ups in STR to get Overwhelming Critical.

Now with Spell Craft thinking maybe lots of INT for it and maybe UMD. Do Clerics really need UMD?

Maybe go CLR17/PAL2/FTR1 for more saves with high CHR now. Use free LR+20 instead of free LR.
At level 30 there will prob be another feat. So I can drop Toughness take PAL2 and keep my current feats.



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The Epic Generalist Perfbuild
Level 28 Lawful Good Human Male
(2 Fighter \ 17 Cleric \ 1 Wizard \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 409
Spell Points: 1126
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 6
Will: 20

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 18 25
Dexterity 8 8
Constitution 14 16
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 16 22
Charisma 8 8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 23

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28)
Balance 0 17
Bluff -1 7
Concentration 6 36
Diplomacy -1 10
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 7
Heal 3 17
Hide -1 7
Intimidate -1 7
Jump 4 15
Listen 3 14
Move Silently -1 7
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 7
Search -1 7
Spellcraft -1 7
Spot 3 14
Swim 5 16
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 4 (Cleric)


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 7 (Cleric)


Level 8 (Cleric)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 16 (Cleric)


Level 17 (Cleric)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell


Level 19 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Divine Emissary of Darkness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Points (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Points (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Points (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Healing Domain (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Pacifism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Positive Energy Burst (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Empower Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wand Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wand Mastery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wand Mastery (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Bliss (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Bliss (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Altruism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Altruism (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Altruism (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Intense Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Incredible Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Positive Energy Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Resilience of Battle (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Sanctuary (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Toughness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Toughness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Smite Weakness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Wall of Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Wall of Steel (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Wall of Steel (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame: Saving Throws (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame: Saving Throws (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame: Saving Throws (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Ameliorating Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Axes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Axes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)

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I am thinking I will drop Toughness and Heighten. Take Pal2/FTR1 now that my CHR is not dumped for these tomes.

Not max STR cause I am a Cleric with garbage DCs.
I can twist LD DCs, but really I need twists for other things like

Endless Faith for mana boost
Cocoon
Momentum Swing
Unearthly reflexes for EE

US for EE
FOTW for Melee
Shiradi Champion for filling in for casting or EA for more light power and mana?

Maybe with the Pal2 I can stay in FOTW for EE. Having the saves to melee. That would be huge I think???

[painkiller3]

US for EE
FOTW for Melee
Shiradi Champion for filling in for casting or EA for more light power and mana?

Maybe with the Pal2 I can stay in FOTW for EE. Having the saves to melee. That would be huge I think???

I use LD for melee, as most groups are almost BYOH...for raids I go EA. Very happy with 2P/1F

[firemedium_jt]

I have built for gear. I am using a LR+20. I have a free LR if lvl30 rolls around and I need to tweak it.
I have mostly +7+2 insight items... commendation gear. It has lots of stuff I like with 3 bonuses each item. CON I have CON+8 goat boots with +2 insight from commendation gear.

Since my DCs suck not upping STR much. Enough for OC. Just surviviblity to melee and stay in FOTW for EE content seems the highest melee DPS for this build.

Seems the big thing is to keep CHR even I.E. 30-10= 20/2= +10 to STR with Divine Might



Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.03
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CLRftrpal Melee
Level 28 Lawful Good Human Male
(1 Fighter \ 2 Paladin \ 17 Cleric \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 492
Spell Points: 1222
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 30
Reflex: 17
Will: 21

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28) (Level 28)
Strength 14 23 25
Dexterity 14 19 19
Constitution 16 24 24
Intelligence 8 13 13
Wisdom 12 17 17
Charisma 14 19 21

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
+5 Tome of Strength used at level 19
+5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
+5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
+5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19
+5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
+5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28) (Level 28)
Balance 2 12 20
Bluff 2 5 13
Concentration 7 30 38
Diplomacy 2 5 13
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 2 5 13
Heal 1 3 11
Hide 2 4 12
Intimidate 2 5 13
Jump 2 7 15
Listen 1 3 11
Move Silently 2 4 12
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair -1 1 9
Search -1 1 9
Spellcraft 3 22 30
Spot 1 3 11
Swim 2 7 15
Tumble n/a 5 13
Use Magic Device n/a 6 14

Level 1 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Spellcraft (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Human Bonus) Maximize Spell


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 4 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)


Level 5 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)


Level 6 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 7 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)


Level 8 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+2)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 10 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)


Level 11 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)


Level 14 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 16 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)


Level 17 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+1.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Divine Emissary of Light (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Points (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Points (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spell Points (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Searing Light (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Searing Light (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Divine Disciple (Clr) - Spellpower: Universal (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Healing Domain (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Pacifism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Positive Energy Burst (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Empower Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wand Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wand Mastery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Wand Mastery (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Bliss (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Bliss (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Improved Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Intense Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Endless Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Incredible Healing (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Radiant Servant (Clr) - Positive Energy Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Resilience of Battle (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Toughness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Smite Weakness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Wall of Steel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Wall of Steel (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Wall of Steel (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame: Saving Throws (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame: Saving Throws (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Inflame: Saving Throws (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Ameliorating Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Axes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)