clonk stunning fist

[painkiller3]

assuming 3 fighter past lives, what's a good stunning fist number to aim for as a clonk? will it be enough for EE?

[Raoull]

assuming 3 fighter past lives, what's a good stunning fist number to aim for as a clonk? will it be enough for EE?

If you are wis based, it will more or less happen magically as long as you don't screw it up.

Base: 10
Lvl 28: +14
wraps: +10
belt/ring: +5
LD twist: +6
40 wis: +15

That's a 60 DC right there. Won't be perfect in EEs, but it will definitely be useful. Other available plusses:

+3: GMOF autogrants
+3: Fighter PLs

and 40 wis is pretty easyl to do. 16 base, 7 lvlups, 3 tome, 2 insightful, 10 item, 2 enh = 40 You can get 6 from GMOF or other destinies, +3 more from gear (1 normal, 1 ins, 1 exc), more from enhancements, ship buffs, yugo pots, water stance, etc. Or more raw DCs can come from using the Bear cloak, or wraps with a higher +stun value than 10 (although IIRC, for lootgen wraps, trip gives stun and vice versa).

[sebastianosmith]

Well, the formula is DC = 10 + [Character Level / 2] + Wis mod + modifiers (Dazing, Stunning, Tactics, Past Lives, etc.) so...

Add those up and that's what you'll have. Aim for as much as you can get. If it works more often than not in EE, great. Knowing what the EE no-save DC is won't change that.

[painkiller3]

If you are wis based, it will more or less happen magically as long as you don't screw it up.

...
That's a 60 DC right there. Won't be perfect in EEs, but it will definitely be useful. Other available plusses:

...

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Raoull, thank you for the helpful response.

Seabass - not helpful. I was looking for a number to shoot for and see whether it would be crippling to achieve it or something that I could work into my build. if it would be crippling to get (and would need to go higher and higher as the level cap eventually goes to 30) then it would be a waste of time and I could just stick with 17 cleric, 2 paladin, 1 fighter.

Peace and love