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Treefq
12-09-2013, 01:59 PM
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/315871-Marshal-of-the-Silver-Flame-%2828pt-Paladin-bases-AA-TWF-by-request%29?p=3763227#post3763227

Any advice on how to make the current enhancement trees work with this?

Treefq
12-09-2013, 07:58 PM
lol, lots of views, no answers. I am trying to figure this thing out.

AbyssalMage
12-10-2013, 06:30 AM
I don't have the Rob's new planner and don't have time to play with it.
WOOT! reading fail, TWF build, not THF

AA tree (~20-30 ap's), Tempest Tree (~20-30 ap's), Fighter Kensei Tree (~20-30 ap's), 0-10 (max) in pally tree., 0-20 (Max) Ranger DWS tree.
Early/Mid game all of your DPS comes from Tempest and Fighter tree's. Use the AA tree for burst DPS(Slaying Arrow, I think as I don't have it on my Tempest build) and CC (Paralyzing Arrow III, I do have this)

End game TR :)

Play around with it and see what you like. Feats should be gentler thanks to the enhancement pass though. I guess that is one good thing about the pass.
If you need an actual break down of what and what tree's I can probably do that but it wouldn't be until the weekend. If yo haven't started the build just yet someone may post an updated build with feats and everything as those are bound to be different also.

Treefq
12-10-2013, 07:35 PM
I don't have the Rob's new planner and don't have time to play with it.
WOOT! reading fail, TWF build, not THF

AA tree (~20-30 ap's), Tempest Tree (~20-30 ap's), Fighter Kensei Tree (~20-30 ap's), 0-10 (max) in pally tree., 0-20 (Max) Ranger DWS tree.
Early/Mid game all of your DPS comes from Tempest and Fighter tree's. Use the AA tree for burst DPS(Slaying Arrow, I think as I don't have it on my Tempest build) and CC (Paralyzing Arrow III, I do have this)

End game TR :)

Play around with it and see what you like. Feats should be gentler thanks to the enhancement pass though. I guess that is one good thing about the pass.
If you need an actual break down of what and what tree's I can probably do that but it wouldn't be until the weekend. If yo haven't started the build just yet someone may post an updated build with feats and everything as those are bound to be different also.

I am slowly figuring this out. This build will TR. Going to adapt the Helves Angels build to current. This build looks like it will front load with the bow and then you will have to pull out the melee. Will I be able to twf in plate once I go fighter/pally?

Munkenmo
12-10-2013, 11:06 PM
I don't have access to a character planner for a few days either sorry, so this won't be optimal, or even necesarily all of your AP. It's just a base point to help you spend AP initially.

(I'm also assuming your primarily a 2wf character, not a 2hf or full time bow user)
(i'm also putting 8 points into sacred defender for you based around defensive stance, I wouldn't personally spend the 8points there myself, but I'm guessing your a newer player who will get more value out of the defensive properties than a grizzled vet like me)

Arcane Archer
1 Core 1
2 conjure arrows
2 elemental arrows (corrosive)

Deepwood Sniper
1 Core 1

Kensai
1 Core 1
6 extra action boost
2 weapon group spec
3 haste boost
2 weapon group spec

Tempest
1 Core 1
2 whirling blades
2 improved reaction
1 Core 2
6 improved parry
2 whirling blades

Sacred Defender
1 Core 1
3 Extra Lay on hands
3 Sacred Defense PRR
3 Sacred Defense Saves
1 Core 2
1 Core 3

KOTC
1 Core 1
2 extra smites
2 extra turn undead
1 Core 2
6 Divine Might
2 Extra Smites
1 divine sacrifice
2 healing amp
6 exalted smite

Helf
1 Core 1
2 rogue dilly
2 Core 2
2 rogue dilly
2 healing amp
2 Core 3 (damage boost)

unbongwah
12-11-2013, 11:18 AM
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/315871-Marshal-of-the-Silver-Flame-%2828pt-Paladin-bases-AA-TWF-by-request%29?p=3763227#post3763227
This build is 2 1/2 years old now; I wouldn't follow it without heavy modifications. The good news is you don't need Toughness or Mental Toughness anymore; and Prec Shot is now a free rgr feat @ lvl 4 (used to be lvl 11). I would probably start lower CHA higher STR; and DEX 15 if you have +2 DEX tome.

This build will TR. Going to adapt the Helves Angels build to current.
Likewise, I think Helves Angels has been rendered obsolete by U19; a centered monk / kensei build is a better way to go, even if you don't want 10K Stars.

Treefq
12-12-2013, 09:20 AM
This build is 2 1/2 years old now; I wouldn't follow it without heavy modifications. The good news is you don't need Toughness or Mental Toughness anymore; and Prec Shot is now a free rgr feat @ lvl 4 (used to be lvl 11). I would probably start lower CHA higher STR; and DEX 15 if you have +2 DEX tome.

Likewise, I think Helves Angels has been rendered obsolete by U19; a centered monk / kensei build is a better way to go, even if you don't want 10K Stars.

I agree. I was having trouble trying to figure out something to stay with and learn the game with. The monk class looks a little complex right now. And I don't have the gear to be able to stay centered with.

AbyssalMage
12-12-2013, 01:51 PM
I agree. I was having trouble trying to figure out something to stay with and learn the game with. The monk class looks a little complex right now. And I don't have the gear to be able to stay centered with.
8 levels of fighter will help with that problem.

If you want to go with the original build, It would still be viable for the PL. Just adjust the Feats like unbongwah stated.