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Morroiel
11-28-2013, 05:20 PM
What is the minimum DC on earthquake for it to be viable in all EE (even on pesky archers, high reflex save mobs)?

Silverleafeon
11-28-2013, 05:36 PM
Not sure the numbers, but I have seen it done.
Vaguely recall, DC 46ish quote, but I have been wrong before and will be again...

Teh_Ghoul
11-28-2013, 05:51 PM
Not sure the numbers, but I have seen it done.
Vaguely recall, DC 46ish quote, but I have been wrong before and will be again...

umm no I'd say 61dc before mantle for ee stormhorns to get shadar-kai assassins etc.

Vellrad
11-28-2013, 06:07 PM
It is possible.
I'll ask guildie druid his DC (EE stormhorns mobs lie down 24/7) when he logs in.

cdr
11-28-2013, 06:18 PM
50 will get everything but Stormhorns EE assassins/gnolls. Maybe ~55 if you want to get everything.

Silverleafeon
11-28-2013, 06:31 PM
Don't forget, always cast ice storm with it, keeping them slowed inside of it for much more effect.

moo_cow
11-29-2013, 12:23 AM
What is the minimum DC on earthquake for it to be viable in all EE (even on pesky archers, high reflex save mobs)?

When I was on my druid life a 65-66 evocation earthquake dc got almost everything, the exception being assassins. Whenever I cast earthquake I drop a ice storm for an effective +4 to dc's but still, some assassins will save. Anything above a 60 is a good dc IMO.

Quick breakdown(might be missing something)


18
+11 item
+3 exceptional
+1 profane
+1 human
+2 herald
+2 capstone
+2 other druid enhancements
+6 shiradi
+7 level ups
+1 feat
+5 tome
+1 exceptional
+2 ship
+2 yugo

= 64 wisdom = 27 mod

(+2 twist, + 2 more if in primal avatar)

27 mod(64 wisdom)
+9 spell level
+10 base
+5 evocation
+3 sorc past lives
+1 enhancement page
+1 wiz past life
+3 evocation feats
+3 evocation twist
+2 evocation twist

= 64 dc

(66 dc with that extra twist and destiny, 67 if you went h-elf with an extra feat)

As you can see earthquake is extremely viable, almost a no fail.

Sokól
11-29-2013, 08:57 AM
Seeing as some DC can be dropped here a caster druid in shiradi might benefit from a + 1 level splash of wizard for mm, the AM sla mm and the past life mm!

Also an extra feat on a feat starved class is very nice...

But back to the question my strength based druid splashed with 3 levels of another class was using earthquake all the to eh gh and also worked fine in ee motu (well not on rangers) with proper debuffs of course. With mantle and solid fog that is a -9...

Teh_Ghoul
11-29-2013, 03:03 PM
Seeing as some DC can be dropped here a caster druid in shiradi might benefit from a + 1 level splash of wizard for mm, the AM sla mm and the past life mm!

Also an extra feat on a feat starved class is very nice...

But back to the question my strength based druid splashed with 3 levels of another class was using earthquake all the to eh gh and also worked fine in ee motu (well not on rangers) with proper debuffs of course. With mantle and solid fog that is a -9...

Year old content doesn't need competitive dc's? Tell me more.

redoubt
12-03-2013, 12:38 AM
When I was on my druid life a 65-66 evocation earthquake dc got almost everything, the exception being assassins. Whenever I cast earthquake I drop a ice storm for an effective +4 to dc's but still, some assassins will save. Anything above a 60 is a good dc IMO.

Quick breakdown(might be missing something)


18
+11 item
+3 exceptional
+1 profane
+1 human
+2 herald
+2 capstone
+2 other druid enhancements
+6 shiradi
+7 level ups
+1 feat
+5 tome
+1 exceptional
+2 ship
+2 yugo

= 64 wisdom = 27 mod

(+2 twist, + 2 more if in primal avatar)

27 mod(64 wisdom)
+9 spell level
+10 base
+5 evocation
+3 sorc past lives
+1 enhancement page
+1 wiz past life
+3 evocation feats
+3 evocation twist
+2 evocation twist

= 64 dc

(66 dc with that extra twist and destiny, 67 if you went h-elf with an extra feat)

As you can see earthquake is extremely viable, almost a no fail.

How do you twist 2 wisdom and 5 evo at the same time? Best I can figure out so far is: 3 evo (magister) 2 evo (draconic) 1 wis (from multiple options)

Next, what are you referring to when you say +1 enhancement page?

thanks.

Vellrad
12-03-2013, 12:44 AM
How do you twist 2 wisdom and 5 evo at the same time? Best I can figure out so far is: 3 evo (magister) 2 evo (draconic) 1 wis (from multiple options)


FotW, T2, +2 wis while raged.

Silverleafeon
12-03-2013, 02:02 AM
Thanks for the number, appreciated.

moo_cow
12-03-2013, 03:11 PM
How do you twist 2 wisdom and 5 evo at the same time? Best I can figure out so far is: 3 evo (magister) 2 evo (draconic) 1 wis (from multiple options)

Next, what are you referring to when you say +1 enhancement page?

thanks.

Vellrad was correct with the fotw twist, you can carry rage pots to always keep it running and the +1 enhancement page is the +1 evocation dc tier 5 in seasons herald called Strength of the solstice.

BloodLust_Shadow
12-05-2013, 10:18 PM
Sheet DC of 58 and I can CC all EE content with fairly little issues.
Sleetquake for the win! Come run with me on khyber :)
~Koko

Blackheartox
12-16-2013, 04:01 PM
Isnt twisted 2 from draconic 3 evoc fro magister and the magister debuff for 10 less reflex better on druids?

Im running my third druid life atm. And i manage to get high enough evoc dc for any ee content /yes even stormorns assasins.
So to reply to this thread, quake is quite ee viable.
Im duoing with buddy so hes runing a blitzing staff build and theras i go into primal for maxed dc.

Could run shiradi but having around 90ish dc with all debuffs is quite nice and i like having no fail quake more then bit more dps from shiradi which doesnt have that amazing synergy with druid /beside quake which can proc it on every hit but is to high sp cost with maximize and empower.
BUT i do have 3 sorc plifes ee shadowsight 3 ins wisdom item 2 evoc augment and completionist, +5tome..
And i abuse solid foq clickies etc..

Have a theory that you could hit 100 quake dc with couple if not most buffs/potions debuffs.

redoubt
12-16-2013, 10:33 PM
Isnt twisted 2 from draconic 3 evoc fro magister and the magister debuff for 10 less reflex better on druids?

Im running my third druid life atm. And i manage to get high enough evoc dc for any ee content /yes even stormorns assasins.
So to reply to this thread, quake is quite ee viable.
Im duoing with buddy so hes runing a blitzing staff build and theras i go into primal for maxed dc.

Could run shiradi but having around 90ish dc with all debuffs is quite nice and i like having no fail quake more then bit more dps from shiradi which doesnt have that amazing synergy with druid /beside quake which can proc it on every hit but is to high sp cost with maximize and empower.
BUT i do have 3 sorc plifes ee shadowsight 3 ins wisdom item 2 evoc augment and completionist, +5tome..
And i abuse solid foq clickies etc..

Have a theory that you could hit 100 quake dc with couple if not most buffs/potions debuffs.

What are you getting from primal that boosts DC besides wisdom? I.e. how is Primal better than Shiradi for Evo casting? I swapped over this afternoon to look at it, but I must have missed it.

Pilgrim1
12-16-2013, 11:10 PM
What are you getting from primal that boosts DC besides wisdom? I.e. how is Primal better than Shiradi for Evo casting? I swapped over this afternoon to look at it, but I must have missed it.

+2 wis from spirit boon.

Also primal has spoors, tsunami, cocoon, more mana and 30 spell power.