After 17 months, a fix whose time has come

[sirgog]

Crafting material drops in Lord of Blades on all three epic difficulties were broken by Menace of the Underdark.

Yes, this raid is no longer endgame. But it still has best in slot loot for one build archetype (Wisdom-based divine casters) and despite the hated mandatory reflagging (the explorer zone) it is still in contention to be in the best three raids designed by Turbine.

Fix it.

[Phaeton_Seraph]

This whole crafting quest/raiding system is probably the worst in the game. At least with Shroud, people can laugh and have a good time, so it seems less... grindy.


But getting everything you need for each tier is such a hassle, most people have never even made one Alchemical weapon so have no clue how good they are.


If Turbine can't be bothered to make it more worthwhile to run, perhaps they can add Alchemical crafting components and Cannith power cells (including both Martial and Mystical) to silver daily dice rolls.

[gzargel]

This whole crafting quest/raiding system is probably the worst in the game. At least with Shroud, people can laugh and have a good time, so it seems less... grindy.


But getting everything you need for each tier is such a hassle, most people have never even made one Alchemical weapon so have no clue how good they are.


If Turbine can't be bothered to make it more worthwhile to run, perhaps they can add Alchemical crafting components and Cannith power cells (including both Martial and Mystical) to silver daily dice rolls.

Exactely, as long as shard teleporters were being put into the game, they should put some in for MA and LOB.

[Ungood]

Crafting material drops in Lord of Blades on all three epic difficulties were broken by Menace of the Underdark.

Yes, this raid is no longer endgame. But it still has best in slot loot for one build archetype (Wisdom-based divine casters)

What item is this?

I am wondering, because AFAIK, there is noting in LOB/MA that has not been surpassed by the epic loot from MotuD

[rest]

What item is this?

I am wondering, because AFAIK, there is noting in LOB/MA that has not been surpassed by the epic loot from MotuD

+2 alchemical bonus to a stat.

[Munkenmo]

What item is this?

I am wondering, because AFAIK, there is noting in LOB/MA that has not been surpassed by the epic loot from MotuD

When comparing alchemical options to motu loot:

Alchemical Tier 2 water & slotted +2 evo dc = same evocation DC when compared to the best evocation item at the time, Twilight (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Twilight,_Element_of_Magic).
2 evo dc + 1 wisdom modifer = 3dc
twilight = 3dc.

This is excluding the House D alchemical potions, as very few people have enough to use them constantly.

Now when comparing to Shadowfell loot:

We can get +5 evo DC's on a necklace slot, the Twilight (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Twilight,_Element_of_Magic)s +3 evo dc's is completely outdated.
meanwhile the +2 alchemical bonus to wisdom is still arguably one of the best weapon options for a divine caster.

[sirgog]

When comparing alchemical options to motu loot:

Alchemical Tier 2 water & slotted +2 evo dc = same evocation DC when compared to the best evocation item at the time, Twilight (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Twilight,_Element_of_Magic).
2 evo dc + 1 wisdom modifer = 3dc
twilight = 3dc.

This is excluding the House D alchemical potions, as very few people have enough to use them constantly.

Now when comparing to Shadowfell loot:

We can get +5 evo DC's on a necklace slot, the Twilight (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Twilight,_Element_of_Magic)s +3 evo dc's is completely outdated.
meanwhile the +2 alchemical bonus to wisdom is still arguably one of the best weapon options for a divine caster.

Even in MotU you could have a +3 Evoc DC one-hander and an Alchemical which surpassed Twilight. This was an option for almost all of the expansion (once people discovered where +3 Evoc DC items dropped at the time).

Max Wisdom divines may not be 'flavour of the month' right now, but they are still a commonly played build, and parts of their best-in-slot offhander drop only in a broken loot table.

[Munkenmo]

Even in MotU you could have a +3 Evoc DC one-hander and an Alchemical which surpassed Twilight.

Fair call. My main divine casters both have monk splashes, using wraps, not kama's, the thought did just occur to me that I missed out on 1DC for a whole year ><.

Totally agree with you though. The broken drops are pathetic, its a sad state for arguably the games best raid (my fav boss fight by far)