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MagicBlade
11-09-2013, 05:12 AM
Just did this Arcane Archer build, to see how it might be... would anyone mind looking over it and giving suggestions? Dunno how well I did, some of it I kinda threw together... I've almost no info about the arcane archers after the update, so all info would be appreciated.


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.03
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 28 Lawful Neutral Half-Elf Female
(2 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 6 Ranger \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 368
Spell Points: 145
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 22
Will: 13

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 14 16
Dexterity 16 28
Constitution 14 16
Intelligence 8 10
Wisdom 14 17
Charisma 8 10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 28
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 28
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 28
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 28
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 28
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 28

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28)
Balance 5 32
Bluff -1 8
Concentration 3 22
Diplomacy -1 8
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 8
Heal 2 18
Hide 3 17
Intimidate -1 8
Jump 4 22
Listen 2 14
Move Silently 6 20
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 8
Search -1 13
Spellcraft -1 8
Spot 6 25
Swim 2 11
Tumble 5 25.5
Use Magic Device 0 12

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Cleric


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision


Level 4 (Ranger)


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 7 (Monk)


Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Ranger)


Level 11 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shot on the Run


Level 16 (Monk)


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Skill Focus (Martial)


Level 27 (Epic)


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Doubleshot
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Half-Elven Versatile Nature (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Elven Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Cleric) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Cleric) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Arcanum (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Arcanum (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Dilettante: Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Cleric) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - True Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - True Strike (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dispelling Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dispelling Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dispelling Shot (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Inferno Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Inferno Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shattermantle Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shattermantle Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shattermantle Shot (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Improved Elemental Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Runebow (Rank 1)

sephiroth1084
11-09-2013, 06:28 AM
Ranger 4 grants Precise Shot for free.
Ranger 6 grants Manyshot for free.

You'd be better off not spending all of your AP in Arcane Archer. I recommend:

Deepwood Sniper: Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Called Shot, Stealthy III (+1d6 Sneak Attack), 2 points in whatever to get to Called Shot
Ninja Spy: Basic Ninja Training, Acrobatic III
Henshin Mystic: Riddle of Fire, Animal Form (Tortoise), Negotiation II, Contemplation III (+1 passive Ki regeneration)
Shintao: Bastion of Purity (5% healing amp)

Also, I'm personally a fan of /2 artificer instead of fighter for +1 level to your scrolls (Heal at 120 base, instead of 110), UMD as a class skill (not super necessary on a half-elf with cleric dilly, but would allow you to swap to Rogue dilly for damage), and Wand and Scroll Mastery III (Heal scrolls hit for 210 before healing amplification). Plus, some old (possibly outdated) info showed that Rapid Reload had a minor benefit on archery attack speed, which artificer grants for free.

MagicBlade
11-09-2013, 03:00 PM
Ranger 4 grants Precise Shot for free.
Ranger 6 grants Manyshot for free.

You'd be better off not spending all of your AP in Arcane Archer. I recommend:

Deepwood Sniper: Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Called Shot, Stealthy III (+1d6 Sneak Attack), 2 points in whatever to get to Called Shot
Ninja Spy: Basic Ninja Training, Acrobatic III
Henshin Mystic: Riddle of Fire, Animal Form (Tortoise), Negotiation II, Contemplation III (+1 passive Ki regeneration)
Shintao: Bastion of Purity (5% healing amp)

Also, I'm personally a fan of /2 artificer instead of fighter for +1 level to your scrolls (Heal at 120 base, instead of 110), UMD as a class skill (not super necessary on a half-elf with cleric dilly, but would allow you to swap to Rogue dilly for damage), and Wand and Scroll Mastery III (Heal scrolls hit for 210 before healing amplification). Plus, some old (possibly outdated) info showed that Rapid Reload had a minor benefit on archery attack speed, which artificer grants for free.

Don't have Artificer, so can't use even if I wanted to really. While the rogue for Sneak Attack damage is nice, I decided I'd go ahead with the Cleric Dillitante so that I could have the Heal Scrolls, with the Dillitante lvled up to 3rd (10th lvl cleric)..

What Feats would you suggest to replace Precise Shot and Many Shot with? I'm thinking of going with Power Attack, and Weapon Focus: Ranged in place...

Also, have been away for a while, so I didn't remember what all the ranger levels gave.


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.03
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 28 Lawful Neutral Half-Elf Female
(2 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 6 Ranger \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 383
Spell Points: 95
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 22
Will: 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 14 16
Dexterity 16 28
Constitution 14 16
Intelligence 8 10
Wisdom 14 17
Charisma 8 10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 28
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 28
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 28
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 28
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 28
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 28

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28)
Balance 5 35
Bluff -1 10
Concentration 3 28
Diplomacy -1 10
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 10
Heal 2 18
Hide 3 20
Intimidate -1 8
Jump 4 25
Listen 2 11
Move Silently 6 23
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 8
Search -1 10
Spellcraft -1 8
Spot 6 22
Swim 2 11
Tumble 5 28.5
Use Magic Device 0 12

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Cleric


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision


Level 4 (Ranger)


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 7 (Monk)


Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 10 (Ranger)


Level 11 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 12 (Ranger)


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 16 (Monk)


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Fighter)


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Half-Elven Versatile Nature (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Elven Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Elven Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Cleric) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Cleric) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Dilettante: Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Cleric) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dispelling Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dispelling Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Inferno Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Inferno Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shattermantle Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shattermantle Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sneak Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sniper Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Stealthy (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Faster Sneaking (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Riddle of Fire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Negotiator (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Negotiator (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Way of the Patient Tortoise (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Skill Focus (Martial)


Level 27 (Epic)


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Doubleshot
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 2)

unbongwah
11-10-2013, 11:33 AM
A lot of monkchers go WIS-based in order to max out their proc chances from 10K Stars; it also boosts your Stunning Fist and ToD DCs. Also, since you're trying to do this on a 28-pt build, you may want to consider going DEX & WIS-based and dumping STR: with Ninja, you add DEX to dmg w/piercing & slashing weapons (inc. bows) while centered; the drawback is you can't add DEX to unarmed dmg, so you'd probably have to use short swords instead.

On the monkcher wishlist:

Ranged feats: Bow STR (r1), Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot(r2), Precise Shot(r4), Manyshot(r6), Imp Crit: Ranged, Imp Prec Shot(r11), Precision(m), Zen Archery(m), 10K Stars(m), Combat Archery
Melee feats (unarmed): TWF(r2)/ITWF(r6)/GTWF(r11), Power Atk (m), IC:Blunt (Pierce if using short swords), Stunning Fist (m), Imp Martial Arts, Vorpal Strikes
Stance feats: At least Master of Forms if you plan to use Earth stance (+1 crit multiplier on 19-20); ideally GM of Forms if using Wind Stance as well

"(r)" indicates free rgr feats and the lvl you get them; "(m)" indicates feats on the monk bonus feat list.

MagicBlade
11-10-2013, 03:17 PM
A lot of monkchers go WIS-based in order to max out their proc chances from 10K Stars; it also boosts your Stunning Fist and ToD DCs. Also, since you're trying to do this on a 28-pt build, you may want to consider going DEX & WIS-based and dumping STR: with Ninja, you add DEX to dmg w/piercing & slashing weapons (inc. bows) while centered; the drawback is you can't add DEX to unarmed dmg, so you'd probably have to use short swords instead.

On the monkcher wishlist:

Ranged feats: Bow STR (r1), Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot(r2), Precise Shot(r4), Manyshot(r6), Imp Crit: Ranged, Imp Prec Shot(r11), Precision(m), Zen Archery(m), 10K Stars(m), Combat Archery
Melee feats (unarmed): TWF(r2)/ITWF(r6)/GTWF(r11), Power Atk (m), IC:Blunt (Pierce if using short swords), Stunning Fist (m), Imp Martial Arts, Vorpal Strikes
Stance feats: At least Master of Forms if you plan to use Earth stance (+1 crit multiplier on 19-20); ideally GM of Forms if using Wind Stance as well

"(r)" indicates free rgr feats and the lvl you get them; "(m)" indicates feats on the monk bonus feat list.

For the melee, was thinking of going with short swords, with using the 1st ninja core to allow the use of swords as ki weapons. And for the monkchers... I really don't know how its best to make them, I use to know a couple of builds but that was back before U19...

For the Imp Crit, and Imp Precise, not going up to ranger lvl 11, so can use my free fighter feats to get them. Not sure on using Stunning Fist, Martial Arts and Vorpal Strikes, since I'll probably be using the short swords instead - although, if I need to... I can redo with the free LR, same lvls, diff feats/enhance...

Would you mind doing a post u19 char sheet that I might could look at? I'm after an AA who mostly uses the bow, with some melee, who has high dps and decent survivability, and fun to play.

gDra
11-10-2013, 07:29 PM
My own feat and level (Mnk12/Rng6/Art2) order goes like this:

1 Rng - Point Blank Shot
2 Mnk - Power Attack
3 Art - Cleave
4 Mnk - Zen Archery
5 Mnk
6 Mnk - Great Cleave
7 Mnk
8 Mnk - Precision
9 Mnk - Ten Thousand Stars
10 Mnk
11 Mnk
12 Rng - Improved Critical Ranged
13 Rng
14 Rng
15 Rng - Improved Precise Shot
16 Rng
17 Mnk
18 Mnk - Dodge
19 Mnk
20 Art
21 Epic - Combat Archery
22 Epic
23 Epic
24 Epic - Overwhelming Critical
25 Epic
26 Epic - Toughness
27 Epic - Grandmaster of Forms
28 Epic - Elusive Target

The order probably isn't good for leveling, I used it on my LR+20. And you will not use Artificer anyway.
Since you wont put as much points into Str you can free the Cleave and OC feats. If Improved Martial Arts now works with Bows, I would take that instead of OC.

Things like IC Bludgeon and Stunning Fist are debatable, depending on your playstyle.

Enhancements are also depending on your taste, I played around with them a lot and are now staying with this:
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Half-Elven Versatile Nature (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Adaptability: Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Greater Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Soul Magic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Smiting Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Improved Elemental Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Runebow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcanotechnician (Art) - Arcanotechnician (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcanotechnician (Art) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcanotechnician (Art) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcanotechnician (Art) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Riddle of Fire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Negotiator (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Negotiator (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Way of the Patient Tortoise (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement:: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Agility (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Agility (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Agility (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)

Basically Arcane Archer up to Slayer Arrows, Wisdom where possible and some extra sneak + defense.

To me Fighter2 isn't very appealing. Do you need the feats? How about Clr or Fvs?
Warpriest also gets you Bow bonuses if you take Silver Flame, some extra PRR, Divine Might if you can get Cha to useful Scores and at Epic levels you will find good for Rejuvination Cocoon (Clr/Fvs allows you to get the Empower Healing Feat to boost that).
Druid is also an option.

MagicBlade
11-10-2013, 07:59 PM
My own feat and level (Mnk12/Rng6/Art2) order goes like this:

1 Rng - Point Blank Shot
2 Mnk - Power Attack
3 Art - Cleave
4 Mnk - Zen Archery
5 Mnk
6 Mnk - Great Cleave
7 Mnk
8 Mnk - Precision
9 Mnk - Ten Thousand Stars
10 Mnk
11 Mnk
12 Rng - Improved Critical Ranged
13 Rng
14 Rng
15 Rng - Improved Precise Shot
16 Rng
17 Mnk
18 Mnk - Dodge
19 Mnk
20 Art
21 Epic - Combat Archery
22 Epic
23 Epic
24 Epic - Overwhelming Critical
25 Epic
26 Epic - Toughness
27 Epic - Grandmaster of Forms
28 Epic - Elusive Target

The order probably isn't good for leveling, I used it on my LR+20. And you will not use Artificer anyway.
Since you wont put as much points into Str you can free the Cleave and OC feats. If Improved Martial Arts now works with Bows, I would take that instead of OC.

Things like IC Bludgeon and Stunning Fist are debatable, depending on your playstyle.

Enhancements are also depending on your taste, I played around with them a lot and are now staying with this:
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Half-Elven Versatile Nature (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Adaptability: Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Greater Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Soul Magic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Smiting Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Improved Elemental Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Runebow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcanotechnician (Art) - Arcanotechnician (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcanotechnician (Art) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcanotechnician (Art) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcanotechnician (Art) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Riddle of Fire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Negotiator (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Negotiator (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Way of the Patient Tortoise (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement:: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Agility (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Agility (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Agility (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)

Basically Arcane Archer up to Slayer Arrows, Wisdom where possible and some extra sneak + defense.

To me Fighter2 isn't very appealing. Do you need the feats? How about Clr or Fvs?
Warpriest also gets you Bow bonuses if you take Silver Flame, some extra PRR, Divine Might if you can get Cha to useful Scores and at Epic levels you will find good for Rejuvination Cocoon (Clr/Fvs allows you to get the Empower Healing Feat to boost that).
Druid is also an option.

I decided on Fighter 2 mostly for the extra feats, however, I reckon I could possibly rework the entire setup.... as far as cleric or fvs, Idk about that. FVS I can't because like the Arti I don't have. Cleric I could, but what would 2 cleric levels really get me? Especially when I have the cleric dillitante, which 3rd rank allows the equivelant of a 10th lvl cleric in terms of scrolls, which Heal is idk which lvl, but a 10th lvl cleric shouldn't have much problem with it.

Hmm... I'd like an arcane archer, or any high ranged dps (not caster), the 1 I have atm is 2 monk 2 ranger atm... so only a lvl 4, half elf, lawful neutral...

Aside from a 12/6/2 Monk Arcane Archer... the only other option I'd really be interested in would be a rogue. Mechanic Rogue using Repeaters..

Do the Arcane Archer buffs/arrows, such as Slayer Arrow, Paralyze, Fear, Acid/Fire/Ice/Shock and the rest work with using a repeater crossbow? Or only bow?

If they do, I could go with some mix of a mechanic Rogue, and use the Half-Elf Arcane Archer enhancement... not exactly sure entirely how the elf aa enhancement really works though..

Could focus on Dex + Int + Str... or something. It might be fun, to have a high dps rogue with trapping abilities. I tried a setup like that pre U19, and it was fun, dunno if it's viable after the update. Only way to check is to try it, but don't want to waste a LR on it, or remake the char if I don't need to..

If this second option of a rogue aa mix, what'd be good classes for it?

gDra
11-11-2013, 04:59 AM
2 Clerics gives you access to the Empower Healing Metamagic Feat (good if you want to use Rejuvination Cocoon in Epic levels).
Warpriest Enhancements: 15 HP, Divine Might, Rightous Weapons (up to +2 Enhancement Bonus to Longbow, though I dont know if it stacks with Arcane Archers Runebow), +10 PRR
Radiant Servant: Wand Mastery (boosts your heal scrolls)
These 2 levels will not enable you to cast heal scrolls, you will still need cleric dillitante.

There are other ways to make Monkchers, for example 12 Fighter variants. The minimum requirement is 6 Monk for Zen Archery and 10k Stars.
Aside from my own build I haven't tested any, it is either what I read in other threads or what I can figure out by myself. I haven't tried repeater builds either, but there should be threads about.