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ddjunks
06-12-2006, 08:40 PM
I enjoyed the various discussions in the Fighter Forum regarding different Fighter builds but most of the time I lost track of the links and posts. So I decided to make a compilation of the more popular builds.

The list below is not listed in any particular order. If you think I am missing certain builds please let me know and I will edit the list.

Hopefully someday someone will make a fighter class guide so we can have all the links of the cool topics in one post.

Thanks,
ddjunks

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TANK BUILDS
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The "Riott" Tank Build (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11599)
Date Posted: March 14, 2006
Race Suggested: Human
The Riott Tank is a Pure Fighter Build that provides a High Intimidate, High AC, and High Saves while maintaining the capability for a rather High Damage Output. Because it stays 10 Fighter it maintains the 10 BaB, and can feed off Paladins Auras and virtually any buff, which makes the top end of this build VERY HIGH in optimal conditions. And because it does not multiclass it is very Feat heavy.

Tank Build - Fighter/Palidan Hybrid by Maldini (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22655)
Date Posted: April 4, 2006
Race Suggested: Human
Here is the build for the Krieg the Bold, the mighty 7 Fighter/3 Paladin multiclass tank build. It has been a pleasure leveling up this character as he is by far the most solid tank build I've seen. With the ability to get all saves over +20 and a standing AC over +50 as well as an Intimidate Score of +40 unbuffed, he can do what other tank builds can't -> outlast.

The Evasion Tank Build (by Illuminati) (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38443)
Date Posted: May 25, 2006
Race Suggested: Human
After playing with guild mates Riott (of Tank build fame) and Muldini (of Hybrid Tank build fame) long enough, and seeing the positives of both, I decided to take a crack at a niche tank build and see what you all thought. The build is centered on high AC (not the highest, but darn good), great saves, great Intimidate, and Evasion (best Feat in the game for melee IMO).

Elurian's Evade Finesse Tank (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50129)
Date Posted: July 14, 2006
Race Suggested: Drow
The objective here was to take advantage of the drow's stat versatility to be able to excel as a tank, with very high intimidate, saves, and AC while achieving the ability to shift into a very high to-hit mode in order to take full advantage of high end weaponry (particularly special effects).

Elurian - 8/2 Fighter/Paladin (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46994)
Date Posted: July 1, 2006
Race Suggested: Drow
"The 8/2 build is designed to achieve extremely high intimidate, save and armor class thresholds while retaining the ability to shift into a strong offensive mode. The 2 levels of paladin provide both the basic aura and divine grace, while 8 levels of fighter provide strong feat and enhancement selections."




TWF/FINESSE BUILDS
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Riott's Two Weapon Fighter - Akeeles Build (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39658)
Date Posted: May 31, 2006
Race Suggested: Elf
This Two Weapon Fighter is a very Niche build, built for DPS with Ultra High To Hit ability. It's a High DEX Fighter with good STR for damage Purposes. It's also unique in that it doesn't wear armor, and instead uses robes for their HOT SWAPPABLE capabilities. It's weak in the AC, but played well you can avoid many hits, and it's Saves are average.

The Punctanator Build, by Illuminati (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41032)
Date Posted: June 5, 2006
Race Suggested: Elf
This is a Weapon Finesse Fighter build. It is called the ‘Punctanator’ because it relies on Puncturing. The damage of this build is irrelevant, only the target Constitution.

The Iron Blades Build II, by Illuminati (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41601)
Date Posted: June 8, 2006
Race Suggested: Human
This is a two-weapon fighting build. It is called the ‘Iron Blades Build’ because it will last to level 20 and has decent AC for a twf. The problem with most TWF builds is that they are soft and take as much damage as they deal out. This is more balanced, with higher AC potential.

Tesyus Build - 41 unbuffed AC TWF at level 12 by Malachi Stormlight2 (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70407)
Date Posted: October 10, 2006
Race Suggested: Dwarf
I have had quite a few people ask me how I managed to make an effective two weapon fighter with the AC of a typical level 10 pally using a towershield.. without using a shield or any other buffs. I was going to keep this my own personal build, but I see no reason to deny other people from having a fun twf build. Beside more people fighting like this in my team would be fun.



TWO-HANDED and DPS BUILDS
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The Pure DPS Build by Maldini (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41011)
Date Posted: June 5, 2006
Race Suggested: Human
This build is a pure weapon master, offensive juggernaut. It was designed to be on par with my Barbarian build as far as DPS goes. This build is very versatile as far as weapons are concerned and seeks to achieve the highest Attack and Damage scores over a wide range of weapons....

Herculean Annihilator by Vehemoth (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56989)
Date Posted: August 14, 2006
Race Suggested: Dwarf
The goal of this build was to couple a fighter's to-hit and a barbarian's damage. The result is as high a to-hit as a boosted fighter but with the strength of a barbarian. In the end, the total possible strength surpasses a barbarians and is the most you can get in current game.


TACTICS BUILDS
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Strategist Build, by Kraze (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46745)
Date Posted: June 30, 2006
Race Suggested: Human/Dwarf
The Stategist is a crowd control fighter that supports with DPS and neutralization of an enemy through the use of Stunning Blow and Improved Trip. Further the strategist supports the rest of the group by lowering the Armor Class of the enemies they're fighting. Being non-styled can benefit from sword and shield as much as a two-handed weapon.

Elurian's Earthshaker Build (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56058)
Date Posted: August 9, 2006
Race Suggested: Dwarf
Having heard nothing but good things about the new fighter's strategy line, I decided to put together a build intended to be what I'd term "offensive support." In other words, the goal of the build is to minimize the enemy's ability to do damage by offensively disrupting their actions and reducing their attacks, saves, etc. Obviously, both the fighter and dwarven DC lines need to be coupled with feats like imp trip, stunning blow to really make the most of it.

Versatile and Powerful "Pure" Dwarven Fighter Tank by Renno (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54955)
Date Posted: August 4, 2006
Race Suggested: Dwarf
This pure fighter build is very versatile and utilizes the increased dwarven efficiency to trip, and stun. It has great saves, against spells possibly better than any other fighter, it has the highest possible "to hit" and maintains a very high armor class when needed. Changing out one enchancement you can still become a turtle.


SPRING ATTACK/WHIRLDWIND BUILDS
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Compiled Weapon Master Builds by Cold Stele (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60577)
Date Posted: August 30, 2006
Race Suggested: Various, Check thread there are several links pointing to other builds
The origin of the Weapon Master is from a PnP DnD 3.0 Prestige Class (which also made an appearance in the Neverwinter Nights game) with an identical set of prerequisite feats. Following a request from ddjunks I am posting a compilation of the various Weapon Master (also called Whirlwind/Spring Attack) builds that have been posted on the forum thus far


WARFORGED BUILDS
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Warforged Tank - How It Can Be Done by Maldini (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46292) (Warforged Forum)
Date Posted: June 28, 2006
Race Suggested: Warforged
Going off of the various tank ideas that have graced this forum over the past few months, I was thinking about how to make an awesome tank out of a Warforged. Now as gimped as many believe the class to be, I feel that they can make a really good tank if built correctly. Here's how I see it taking place.

Adamant Monolith - WF Tank by Kraze Nightwielder (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57094)
Date Posted: August 15, 2006
Race Suggested: Warforged
This is a warforged tank I'm considering building when they fix Armor Mastery to work for us. It really doesn't have anything uniquely Warforged. I just wanted to share and I'm looking for suggestions. I like bludgeoning weapons merely for RP value. I did opt to go without Improved Critical for better tankage.

Warforged Juggernaut by Renno (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57565)
Date Posted: August 16, 2006
Race Suggested: Warforged
Warforged Juggernaut is designed to make use of a high damage output in tandem with the Warforged immunities. It also has the availability to enter into defense when needed to minimize the need for healing.


TOUGHNESS/CON BUILDS
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Super HP AC Dwarf Tank build by Hurricane (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20725&highlight=Super)
Date Posted: April, 2006
Race Suggested: Dwarf
Basic point to this build is tons hit points along with agro keeping ability with a sick AC. Alignment must be Nuetral for stability equipment. Your enhancments make or break this Build.


RANGED FIGHTER BUILDS
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The Archer by Elurian (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=630021)
Date Posted: August 28, 2006
Race Suggested: Elf
DDJunks had mentioned wanting a fighter based archer build for the compilation thread, and given the rumored improvements to non-repeater archery, I decided to give it a shot. I'm basing the build on level 12, since the cap will hopefully be going up around the same time that the improvements are made.

Halfling Thrower Build by Kraze Nightwielder (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=467973)
Date Posted: June 24, 2006
Race Suggested: Halfling
This build attempts to take advantage of the halflings innate abilities and the usefulness of returning weapons to make a fighter with decent defense and great ranged offense.


HYBRID/UTILITY FIGHTER BUILDS
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The Batman: Ultimate Jack of All Trades 2P/2R/6F Build by Grenfell (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58347)
Date Posted: August 20, 2006
Race Suggested: Human
From the secret mountain laboratories of Grenfell & Sons DDO Build Engineers comes the latest hybrid build. I have this build up to 8 right now, and have modified the original draft based on my experience so far, as well as invaluble input from the Rogue and Fighter forums. I wanted to post it in the Paladin forum as well since the Batman is really the distillation of the Ravitus build to make it work.
ddjunk's note: I believe that the build was posted both in paladin and fighter forums but the paladin thread is more active.


THE 1750 FAVOR BUILDS
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Atlas - The Melee Platform by Elurian (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66166)
Date Posted: Speptember 28, 2006
Race Suggested: Human
Versa-tanks have typically been stretched far too thin, sacrificing significant offense in order to achieve the minimum standards necessary to floor enemy to-hit while optimizing saves and intimidate, or giving up key defensive capabilities in order to try to have strong offensive clout. As a result, most versa-tanks end up being "jacks of all trade and masters of none."

Colossus: The Mod 3 1750 Favor Warforged Atlas by Grenfell (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68832)
Date Posted: October 11, 2006
Race Suggested: Warforged
This is yet another idea based on announced changes to Warforged coming in Mod 3, and the 32 point buy from 1750 favor. I figure those who have been loyal to the gimped Warforged race all this time are likely people who are close to 1750 favor in any event, and some of the benefits of the race now make WF a very serious contender for the ultimate in Evasion tanking.


Other Discussions
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Max Potential AC in the current game by Maldini (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30188)
Date Posted: April 26, 2006
Discusses how to achieve the maximum AC currently allowed to players in the game.

Paladin Builds Compilation by Kraze (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52885)
This link is an organize compilation of Paladin builds and template. I added it here since many fighter builds multi-class to paladin.

Barbarian Builds: A Compiled List by Maldini (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59712)
This link is an organize compilation of Barbarian builds and template. I added it here since many fighter builds multi-class to barbarbian.

The Definitive AC Bonus Thread by tr0tsky (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30186)
Date Posted: April 26, 2006
Well, there was a post in the General Forum about all the various AC bonuses a person could get, but it's more or less devolved into a flame war...so I edited out all the non-DDO stuff and am posting here. (Kudo's to Polyformist for the original thread).





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Revisions:
June 23, 2006: Sorted builds by date posted and added race suggestion for the build.
June 28, 2006: Added link to some useful discussions.
July 20, 2006: Added Elurian's Evade Finesse Tank build.
July 20, 2006: Categorized the builds.
July 24, 2006: Added Strategist Build, by Kraze
July 24, 2006: Added 8/2 Fighter/Paladin by Elurian
July 28, 2006: Added Compiled Paladin Builds by Kraze.
August 14, 2006: The Definitive AC Bonus Thread by tr0tsky
August 14, 2006: Versatile and Powerful "Pure" Dwarven Fighter Tank by Renno
August 14, 2006: Added Elurian's Earthshaker Build
August 29, 2006: Added Maldini's WF Tank build form WF Forum
August 29, 2006: Added Kraze's Adamant Monolith WF build form WF Forum
August 29, 2006: Added Renno's WF Juggernaut build
August 29, 2006: Added Elurian's Archer Build
August 29, 2006: Added Herculean Annihilator by Vehemoth
September 6, 2006: Added The Batman: Ultimate Jack of All Trades by Grenfell
September 6, 2006: Compiled Weapon Master Builds by Cold Stele
September 6, 2006: Barbarian Builds: A Compiled List by Maldini
October 18, 2006: Added Halfling Thrower Build by Kraze Nightwielder
October 18, 2006: Atlas - The Melee Platform by Elurian
October 18, 2006: Colossus: The Mod 3 1750 Favor Warforged Atlas by Grenfell
March 2, 2007: Tesyus Build - 41 unbuffed AC TWF by Malachi Stormlight2

ddjunks
06-14-2006, 11:48 AM
Also, is there a good range fighter build and thf fighter build discussions floating around? I cannot seem to find one.

Maldini
06-14-2006, 12:31 PM
You forgot my pure fighter DPS build :P

ddjunks
06-15-2006, 11:36 PM
You forgot my pure fighter DPS build :P

What was the title of the thread Maldini?

I am gonna sort the thread buils too later for date posted since Turbine might nerf things down and the template is no longer valid or efficient at a later date.

Maldini
06-15-2006, 11:50 PM
I think the builds are pretty solid and they will stand the test of time and nerf. The tank builds really can't get too much more defensive. I mean, hell the AC and Saves on some of them are astounding.

Maldini
06-15-2006, 11:50 PM
Let's get this stickied. Someone PM Samera or Sporkfire.

Dweezil
06-16-2006, 09:45 AM
Kryxs TWF builds are good.

Illuminati
06-16-2006, 11:04 AM
He has spring attack in both his builds. It is my understanding this is horrible with TWF because you don't get your offhand attack. Otherwise his builds are ok.

I think the best TWF build is high ST Ranger 9 / Fighter 1. I posted one here originally but got so fed up with comments I deleted the post.

Why?

-Barkskin (need AC to survive with this build)
-Rangers bypass the dex requirements for TWF/ITWF/GTWF
-Heal yourself when you get in trouble
-Evasion

Dweezil
06-17-2006, 12:15 AM
He has spring attack in both his builds. It is my understanding this is horrible with TWF because you don't get your offhand attack. Otherwise his builds are ok.
I know people that swear by spring attack, although that could be a downside. It certainly increases his ability to avoid damage, though.

Korvie
06-17-2006, 11:01 AM
found answer... not just a post farm attempt.

Thanks Korvey

Sani_Medicor
06-18-2006, 06:28 AM
I know people that swear by spring attack, although that could be a downside. It certainly increases his ability to avoid damage, though.
I tried out spring attack on my pally, before rolling my fighter. It's kinda weird, because you can't see it at work. However, I did stormcleave before and after taking the feat. I had about twice as many kills (~100) with spring attack. It's too bad I couldn't have run it with the same party for a more accurate comparison.

Illuminati
06-18-2006, 08:59 AM
Are you sword and board with it or twf?




I tried out spring attack on my pally, before rolling my fighter. It's kinda weird, because you can't see it at work. However, I did stormcleave before and after taking the feat. I had about twice as many kills (~100) with spring attack. It's too bad I couldn't have run it with the same party for a more accurate comparison.

Sani_Medicor
06-18-2006, 10:24 AM
Are you sword and board with it or twf?
I'm sword and board.

Shade
06-18-2006, 12:05 PM
Those are the xtremes.. But wheres a more balanced build?

I think the most min-maxed build will overtake these eventually.
Like 18 strength for DPS along with 13 int/dex for tank feats.

Sani_Medicor
06-18-2006, 12:29 PM
Those are the xtremes.. But wheres a more balanced build?

I think the most min-maxed build will overtake these eventually.
Like 18 strength for DPS along with 13 int/dex for tank feats.
Hey...that's my build! lol
http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=429393

Maldini
06-18-2006, 02:51 PM
I know people that swear by spring attack, although that could be a downside. It certainly increases his ability to avoid damage, though.

Here's the deal with Spring Attack, if you're attack score is high to begin with, then Spring Attack will give minimal benefit. If you're a DPS build, then there are other feats that will give you more benefit than Spring Attack.

Maldini
06-18-2006, 02:53 PM
Those are the xtremes.. But wheres a more balanced build?

I think the most min-maxed build will overtake these eventually.
Like 18 strength for DPS along with 13 int/dex for tank feats.

Actually Riott's build has a balance to it. And Krieg can DPS when he needs to by dropping Combat Expertise. The only extremes up there is really the DPS build.

Elurian
06-18-2006, 11:03 PM
Elurian's 8/2 ftr/pal hybrid.

Str 16
Dex 13
Con 9
Int 14
Wis 8
Cha 14

1- Ftr 1 - Dodge, Luck of Heroes, Bullheaded
2- Pal 1 - Aura
3- Pal 2 - Divine Grace, WF: Slash
4- Ftr 2 – ISB
5- Ftr 3
6- Ftr 4 –Combat Expertise, Weapon Spec: Slash
7- Ftr 5
8- Ftr 6 – Imp Crit Slash
9- Ftr 7 – Iron Will OR SF Intimidate
10-Ftr 8 – Greater WF: Slash

Enhancements
Fighter's Action Boost III
Fighter's Expertise II
Tactics IV
Fighter’s Strength

Level 10 Stats:
Str 26 (w/+5 item)
Dex 16
Int 14
Con 12
Wis 8
Cha 18

"Ideal" AC Breakdown (Reduce by 2 with standard +5 FP) -

10 Base
1 Dodge
13 +5 Mith FP
3 Dex
9 +5 Mith TS
2 Chaosgarde
2 Aura
1 Amulet of Natural Armor
3 Deflection Goggles
9 Expertise (w/ Fighter's Expertise II)

Unbuffed AC: 53; Unbuffed Blocking 55
Dedicated Pally +3, Barkskin +4, Boost +5
Buffed, Blocking and Boosted AC = 67

Saves:
Base-9/2/2
Stats 1/3/-1
Luck of Heroes 1/1/1
Resistance 3 Ring, Cloak, or Belt - 3/3/3
Divine Grace - 4/4/4
Bullheaded 0/0/1
Iron Will 0/0/2
Base Aura 2/2/2
Total: 19/15/14
w/Resistance III Pally Aura 22/18/17

Intimidate:
Ranks 13
Cha 4
Tactics 6
Bullheaded 2
10 Intimidate Helm
Total Intimidate - 35 (38 if you exchange Iron Will for SF: Intimidate)

Unbuffed to-hit in offense mode with +5 weap & +5 str item or +4 and +1 tome = 10+8+5+2 (WF feats) = +25. Boosts to +33; +37 with +4 bardsong. With +5 unmodded scimitar, avg damage is 1d6 (3.5)+8+5+2(weapon spec) for avg damage of 18.5, critting 30%, for total average damage of roughly 24 per hit. A +4 ele/pure good weapon would bump that past the 30 mark.

+5 strength gear is a bit tough to find, but so far, the ONLY non-restricted +5 stat items I've seen have been strength. Strength is also the only +4 static non-raid item and the only +6 static raid item.

Illuminati
06-19-2006, 06:18 AM
I have a +5 Cha helm on my tank =) (elf only)

So they exist here and there.

Elurian
06-20-2006, 02:48 AM
Yeah, I had a 5 int ring (hum only), but it and your cha helm are both restricted.

ddjunks
06-23-2006, 09:16 AM
Yeah, I had a 5 int ring (hum only), but it and your cha helm are both restricted.

Hey Elurian, can you please send me the thread for your build. Thanks.

ddjunks
06-23-2006, 09:18 AM
June 23, 2006: Sorted builds by date posted and added race suggestion for the build.

Added this data in case Turbine nerfs something at a later date that may invalidate the build.

Shecky
06-23-2006, 09:25 AM
I'd love to see builds for the "perfect hybrid" - highest AC, highest attack and highest saves. A real jack-of-all-trades that can deal out lots of DPS, have hard-to-penetrate AC and make loads and loads of saves.

Maldini
06-23-2006, 09:31 AM
I'd love to see builds for the "perfect hybrid" - highest AC, highest attack and highest saves. A real jack-of-all-trades that can deal out lots of DPS, have hard-to-penetrate AC and make loads and loads of saves.

It doesn't exist. You either have 2 of the 3 or your mediocre in all three.

ddjunks
06-23-2006, 09:39 AM
I'd love to see builds for the "perfect hybrid" - highest AC, highest attack and highest saves. A real jack-of-all-trades that can deal out lots of DPS, have hard-to-penetrate AC and make loads and loads of saves.

I love to see a some good WF fighter build thread, a range fighter thread and THF fighter thread. That way, people will really know how diverse a fighter can be. Right now its mostly tank builds and twf builds but eventually another brilliant thread with a different build will pop up.

ddjunks
06-28-2006, 11:07 AM
June 28, 2006: Added link to some useful discussions.

Max Potential AC in the current game by Maldini (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=438553#post438553)
Date Posted: April 26, 2006
Discusses how to achieve the maximum AC currently allowed to players in the game.

Kyoteh
07-18-2006, 08:59 PM
Yikes, they STILL have no section in the forums for 'player made guides for other players'.

Thanks for taking the time to compile this, hope it gets recognized and upkept.

Kyoteh

Astalon
07-19-2006, 10:22 AM
Elurian's 8/2 ftr/pal hybrid.

6- Ftr 4 –Combat Expertise, Weapon Spec: Slash


Elurian, I used your idea for the 8/2 build and ran into a problem at level 6. Combat Expertise and WS: Slash are both class feats. At level 6, I was given a choice of one general feat and one class feat. That means I could choose either Combat Expertise, or WS: Slash, but not both. I ended up taking luck of heroes as my general feat and will take WS: Slash at 8 instead of the critical feat. Maybe I screwed up, but if I didn't, ya might want to adjust the build. I am using a drow.

Kraze_Nightwielder
07-19-2006, 10:47 AM
Elurian, I used your idea for the 8/2 build and ran into a problem at level 6. Combat Expertise and WS: Slash are both class feats. At level 6, I was given a choice of one general feat and one class feat. That means I could choose either Combat Expertise, or WS: Slash, but not both. I ended up taking luck of heroes as my general feat and will take WS: Slash at 8 instead of the critical feat. Maybe I screwed up, but if I didn't, ya might want to adjust the build. I am using a drow.

You didn't screw up. That is some type of bug.

Kraze_Nightwielder
07-19-2006, 10:48 AM
Oh also, can you add my Strategist support/dps build?

http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46745

Riekan
07-19-2006, 01:04 PM
It's not a bug. You just have to drag the feat into the appropriate slot, instead of double clicking on the feat. You can put a fighter feat into a general slot, you just have to drag it there.

Astalon
07-19-2006, 01:19 PM
It's not a bug. You just have to drag the feat into the appropriate slot, instead of double clicking on the feat. You can put a fighter feat into a general slot, you just have to drag it there.

****! wish I had known about that...I ended up taking luck of heroes instead of WS:Slash. Now I have a real decision to make. I really like the idea of getting improved trip...but I still need imp crit: slash and Greater WF: slash

So...improved crit at level 8 and Greater WF: slash and level 10...what should I choose at level 9? WS: Slash or improved trip? Whatever I skip I can always pick up at level 12 when we should get 2 feats.

Help? Opinions?

ddjunks
07-19-2006, 04:59 PM
July 20, 2006: Added Elurian's Evade Finesse Tank build.
July 20, 2006: Categorized the builds.

ddjunks
07-24-2006, 04:23 AM
July 24, 2006: Added Strategist Build, by Kraze
July 24, 2006: Added 8/2 Fighter/Paladin by Elurian

Looking for a WF Fighter build, Fighter Archer Build and more DPS builds so we can have more diverse templates.

Thanatos
07-25-2006, 02:28 PM
Yeah, I am looking to compare archery builds with various levels: Pure Ranger, Fighter/Ranger, and Fighter/Ranger/Rogue (for the sneak attack and a bit of group utility, since many groups don't think to invite just for archery skill). I'd prefer stuff that doesn't use a repeater.

Athean
07-25-2006, 11:35 PM
Hey ddjunks, check out my TWF build, titled Athean's TWF Build (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47441). Let me know what you think. If you like, add it to your list. If not, no biggy. I'm just trying to to info out there to help others.

ddjunks
07-26-2006, 07:52 AM
Hey ddjunks, check out my TWF build, titled Athean's TWF Build (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47441). Let me know what you think. If you like, add it to your list. If not, no biggy. I'm just trying to to info out there to help others.

I usually let the thread stabilize for a few days before adding. If the post and replies are constructive I usually add it. If it gets flamed or something like that then there won't be any sense adding it.

Athean
07-26-2006, 06:04 PM
Cool, thx for giving it a chance. Whatever happens is ok by me. I sure don't want the build out there if it sucks. Don't want to mislead anyone. Thx for taking the time, appreciated it!!!

ddjunks
07-27-2006, 09:59 AM
July 28, 2006: Added Compiled Paladin Builds by Kraze.

Paladin Builds Compilation by Kraze (http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52885)

Try to checkout this thread if you cannot find the fighter builds you want.

GramercyRiff
07-27-2006, 01:48 PM
I think the builds are pretty solid and they will stand the test of time and nerf. The tank builds really can't get too much more defensive. I mean, hell the AC and Saves on some of them are astounding.

Agreed on all but the Evasion tank. If Evasion is ever brought in line with PnP, Mithril Full Plate, a medium armor, will not work with Evasion. Now if you have a +5 Mithril Breastplate or +5 Mithril Chain, the AC hit will be only be -3, but your skills will go up. Also, you can grow into that +5 Mithril Breastplate to only be 1 AC less than Mithril Fullplate (assume a Tome and +6 DEX item, which would boost that REF save as well).

Evasion should only work in light or no armor. It's one of the best abilities in PnP, and there was a reason it was only available to the lightly armored classes.

Horudin
08-01-2006, 09:22 AM
/bump for sticky?

Kraze_Nightwielder
08-09-2006, 11:35 AM
bump

Maldini
08-09-2006, 05:08 PM
A bunch of us should send a PM to Spork/Samera/Eldorudo and ask them if they can sticky. When you do so, say it's because we don't have a forum for player guides or something like that.

Renno
08-09-2006, 08:57 PM
I think this one deserves to be up there.

http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54955

Kraze_Nightwielder
08-14-2006, 02:49 PM
Yay for the sticky!

Elurian
08-14-2006, 02:58 PM
Thanks for the sticky! :)

Maldini
08-14-2006, 06:01 PM
It's about **** time, yay!

ddjunks
08-14-2006, 10:09 PM
Did not even know I got stickied hehe. Thanks for those who bug the mods about it.

ddjunks
08-14-2006, 10:43 PM
August 14, 2006: The Definitive AC Bonus Thread by tr0tsky
August 14, 2006: Versatile and Powerful "Pure" Dwarven Fighter Tank by Renno
August 14, 2006: Elurian's Earthshaker Build


Also, did someone do a WFTDS - Warforge Tank? Please let me know. I want to put it here too since there is still no Warforge Entry here.

Still looking for a range fighter build too.

Maldini
08-14-2006, 10:44 PM
August 14, 2006: The Definitive AC Bonus Thread by tr0tsky
August 14, 2006: Versatile and Powerful "Pure" Dwarven Fighter Tank by Renno
August 14, 2006: Elurian's Earthshaker Build


Also, did someone do a WFTDS - Warforge Tank? Please let me know. I want to put it here too since there is still no Warforge Entry here.

Still looking for a range fighter build too.

Hmm, one of those isn't in the Fighter Forum...

ddjunks
08-14-2006, 10:54 PM
Hmm, one of those isn't in the Fighter Forum...


I added tr0tsky's thread for the AC bonuses since it can help fighters builds compute their possible AC base on the available items/equipment they have and will help identify which AC bonuses stack.

I think his thread is in the Class General Discussion forum.

Kraze_Nightwielder
08-15-2006, 10:14 AM
I actually have a warforged Tank that I put together from spare parts....

It's in the Warforged Forum but hasn't had many replies.

Cold_Stele
08-27-2006, 06:04 AM
Why is that there are none of the Weapon Master Builds (Spring Attack/Whirlwind) posted on this sticky?

There have been numerous threads on this subject reporting it to be one of the highest damage output builds but it's still not appearing here. Posters have included -

Ricksha (in the top 10 most viewed posts on this forum, sadly a little full of flames)
http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52306

Sani
http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52570

and my more defensive version
http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50332

These builds leave Barbarians and other DPS standing, whilst still maintaining survivability. I've seen it and done it. Again and again and again. Some prolific posters on these forums fail to understand and continue to disparage Spring Attack - to the detriment of the rest of us. This feat more than any other is the reason these builds dominate.

You get around 32 swings every 15 seconds when lightly tapping the movement keys compared to just less than 24 when stationary - more than 8 swings extra every 15 seconds (I'm talking sword and board here).

Sometimes you have to stay still to hit very high AC mobs with your +5 and +10 attacks. Against everything else Spring Attack allows you to break free of the painfully slow +0/+0/+5/+10 attack chain - it's not called a chain for nothing!

DPS is good, SPaM (Swings Per Minute) is better...

Elurian
08-28-2006, 12:59 AM
Ricksha's was disparaged because he claimed it was "The best most uberest tank build ever," (which it's not even CLOSE to) rather than pitching it as a DPS build, which it is. I think you may very well be right about spring attack being one of the most undervalued feats. I haven't played with it myself yet, but if you're right about the amount of time the swings take, then you're also right that against mobs without extremely high ACs, spring attack could be priceless. Of course, Lyte's comment about swivelling to anchor in place of using spring attack is also worth noting.

Sani's build looks like a solid DPS build and yours looks like a good balanced build (though I think bastard sword is of dubious value, especially on a build that's already juggling offense and defense), so DDJ might want to take a look at them, but it's really his call as to which go into the compilation.

It's tough to search through all the builds in the forum, and drawing the line between what makes a build unique in its own right and what's just a modification makes it a little tougher. As an example, there's really not much difference between Ricksha's build and Sani's. As nearly as I can tell, they're basically identical except that Ricksha takes Power Attack while Sani takes Precision. (I think Sani had a very close version posted a month before Ricksha's as well). I don't think swapping one feat means both should go into the compilation, or you'd have dozens of spin-offs from each real build. As an example, I've got a drow 8/2 and a human 8/2, with a couple of different feats and enhancements and different stats, but only one of them is in the compilation thread, because on the whole, they serve the same purpose.

All that said, I do think at least 1 or 2 weapon master/whirlwind builds would round out the thread if DDJ wants to add them.

ddjunks
08-28-2006, 04:40 AM
The 32 attack every 15 seconds would be very nice for specially for those weilding Vorpal, Smiting etc.

Hopefully somebody can confirm this.

Cold_Stele
08-28-2006, 06:18 AM
I'll work on a thread for DDJ crediting all the builds posted so far.

Oh, forgot to say it's about 41 swings every 15 seconds with Haste or FAB IV or 46/47 with both.

Elurian - I don't disagee that Khopesh wins on damage when you compare two identical weapons. Problem for Khop users is exactly that though - the scarcity. No chart or graph can quantify a comparison between a Khop and a better specced Bastard Sword (cos they're easier to get hold of in Brokers or to trade for).

I readily concede that established players may have a nice collection of Khops already and it may not be a problem. For anyone who's lookin at build advice to make a new toon it is though, when every other new Fighter and Paladin takes the feat. I was on the CLERIC forum yesterday - they've even got builds posted there with Khop users! It is gonna be a problem...

On reflection I'm happy with my feat choice, and will certainly not be using Feat Respeccing. I'm gonna keep using a weapon that does slightly less damage (slightly more on mobs that can't be critted) but that's much easier to get hold of. OK time to go over to Sarlona Marketplace and bid on that Vorpal Bastard Sword that's on there...

ddjunks
08-29-2006, 01:19 AM
August 29, 2006: Added Maldini's WF Tank build form WF Forum
August 29, 2006: Added Kraze's Adamant Monolith WF build form WF Forum
August 29, 2006: Added Renno's WF Juggernaut build
August 29, 2006: Added Elurian's Archer Build
August 29, 2006: Herculean Annihilator by Vehemoth

I am still waiting for Cold Steele's revision/redo of the Spring Attack Builds.

Also we seem to be missing the builds base on Cleave, Greater Cleave and Whirlwind attack.

Maldini
09-01-2006, 01:50 PM
I'm working on getting the Barbarian compiled build list thread stickied in the Barbarian forum. I'll have to crosslink in the Fighter and Palidan ones.

Haven
09-05-2006, 03:36 AM
Hey wasup Maldini,

I tried that drow fighter template ya gave me a couple weeks ago lol worked out nice ly got to lvl 3 in no time, but then lost drow spark everyone is playing a drow. So im going to make him human and was wondering how the xtra feat would come in a what to pick, heres what ya gave me.

1. WPF : Slash and bludgeon
2. Powerattack
3. THF
4. Weapon Spec Slash
5. -
6. IMP 2H & Weap Spec Bludgeon
7. -
8. IMP Crit Slash
9. IMP Crit Bludgeon
10. Greater Weapon Focus : slash

So was wondering what to put in for the other first feat that wont mess up the pecking order.
Oh and one more thing was wondering why dext was at 16 when we wear full plate? Sorry to be a pain already have a lvl 10 so im on another long road to 10 with a fighter sorry im being a pain just want to make sure i have all this straight and understand it.

Thanx a million Maldini for all the help
ISENGRIM

Haven
09-05-2006, 10:05 PM
Or anybody for that matter. Thanx


ISENGRIM

ddjunks
09-06-2006, 03:36 AM
Hi Haven, you might as well contact Maldini in his barbarian thread since he is the barbarian expert :).

Added:
September 6, 2006: Added The Batman: Ultimate Jack of All Trades by Grenfell
September 6, 2006: Compiled Weapon Master Builds by Cold Stele
September 6, 2006: Barbarian Builds: A Compiled List by Maldini

DZX
09-15-2006, 12:43 AM
Some very good work in here :)

Has anyone come up with a Great Crossbow fighter build? I have been looking around but no luck so far. If somone has some time to come up with something (Even a rough build) it would be much appreciated :)

Again some great combinations here!

ddjunks
09-17-2006, 03:23 PM
Some very good work in here :)

Has anyone come up with a Great Crossbow fighter build? I have been looking around but no luck so far. If somone has some time to come up with something (Even a rough build) it would be much appreciated :)

Again some great combinations here!


Still 1 ranged build so far "The Archer" made by Elurian. We don't have an Xbow or Repeater build yet.

Promethious
09-21-2006, 06:43 AM
Where's the love for fighter/barbarian? I'm working on a good build right now but I won't go into the barbarian until level 5. What are your thoughts?

Vehemoth
09-22-2006, 02:30 PM
Still 1 ranged build so far "The Archer" made by Elurian. We don't have an Xbow or Repeater build yet.

I made a repeater build thread titled "Heavy Repeater Build - need input". However, it hasn't gotten many looks or replies. Probably because it's either not exciting or not that good of a build :o

Vehemoth
09-22-2006, 02:31 PM
Where's the love for fighter/barbarian? I'm working on a good build right now but I won't go into the barbarian until level 5. What are your thoughts?

My damage build titled "Herculean Annihilator" is a fighter8/barb2 that dishes out serious DPS with a high to-hit. It's listed in the first post. I'd like to hear your build though.

DasLurch
09-22-2006, 06:51 PM
Is there a compiled list of the feats (usefulness, situational uses, rankings, etc) other than the list in the compendium? I was hoping to get an INFORMED opinion about some of the feats that players use, and why. I do not have the experience with many of these feats used by fighters to answer this sort of question. Can anyone help?

Startide
10-08-2006, 06:54 PM
here's the quick way to figure out if a feat is good or not and how good or not it is.

look at illuminati, elurian, maldini, and emu's builds.


Take every feat each of them have in common and those are the best. Any feat than any one of them has is good. Anything none of them have is ****.

ddjunks
10-18-2006, 11:19 PM
October 18, 2006: Added Halfling Thrower Build by Kraze Nightwielder
October 18, 2006: Atlas - The Melee Platform by Elurian
October 18, 2006: Colossus: The Mod 3 1750 Favor Warforged Atlas by Grenfell

Kraze_Nightwielder
10-24-2006, 10:13 AM
Thanks for keeping up with it DD. :)

ddjunks
01-10-2007, 12:23 AM
Vote for this guide if you want it stickied guys.

ddjunks
02-10-2007, 06:21 AM
Well with the New Enhancement update in Risia, some of the builds here might get obsolete.

Kindoki
04-28-2007, 07:13 PM
All the links I try to follow on the op are dead...what's the scoop?

Daze
08-02-2007, 01:07 PM
Even searching for the threads doesnt yield anything ... I suppose they are gone.

I know the Batman build/Evasion tank build was nerfed but the build is still viable for decent rogue skillz.

hughnme
08-03-2007, 08:40 AM
All the links I try to follow on the op are dead...what's the scoop?

ive been away awhile,yes,where are they?
i remember heaps more posts back in the day?

Dalagar
08-06-2007, 10:27 AM
Most of the links on teh post do not work to bad ;-/. Lloks like a lot of work went into this.

moui
01-04-2008, 09:05 PM
found an updated link for one

The "Riott" Tank
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=116482&highlight=riott

Puby
04-08-2008, 05:38 PM
could u send me a link for your "iron blades" build pls
would be much obliged thank you;)

JudasPriest
04-21-2008, 10:25 AM
I cannot seem to be able to open any of those links to the op's templates. It say's no thread specified.

Laith
04-21-2008, 10:32 AM
I cannot seem to be able to open any of those links to the op's templates. It say's no thread specified.this is a really old thread, and many of the linked builds were removed in a great forum-purge awhile back.

that being said, most of them would probably be grossly out of date at this point, anyhow.

Jolamma
12-07-2009, 05:19 PM
The build for the
Tank Build - Fighter/Palidan Hybrid by Maldini
Date Posted: April 4, 2006

is... yea out dated. but i was wanting to give it a try, and as well as that. i was wondering if there is a more up to date post of these builds but the possibility of the 32 point build as i am going to be getting that quite soon. any help is appreciated. thanks

--Dylon

lmD22
06-28-2010, 10:54 AM
None of the links to the builds are running, I'm looking for a good build Fighter Tanker to take a base and make one yourself.

CheekyStoat
08-31-2012, 12:30 PM
Yeah...none of these links work anymore. Otherwise I think that the idea of this thread is amazing. Thanks for taking the time to do this once upon a time.