TR after ED reset

[Mamba_Lev]

Is anyone who has grinded there way through more than 15 million XP actually considering TR'ing? I plan to TR just before the new TR system for the experience of doing it again with the gear and knowledge i didn't have, but having to grind through all the ED's especially with quest ransack meh it's not worth it. If you got a past life ED feat for every ED then maybe but still. To get my ED's maxxed i had more than 200 runs of the House of blades and a similar amount of the other i can't remember can't imagine how long it would take now.. Losing all the Twist points too wow just no.

What about key's of destinys that i have bought, we'll be getting those back, i think not if the past is anything to judge by. We have had your money can't program for toffee and we don't know how many key's you have used, oh yeah your TP account says how many but we can't give you them so we lied and said we didn't know then when you point that out they just say you can't.

There is already plenty 0f grind in this game from the laughable loot/Shard/Seal drop percentages

TLDR: Will you TR after Update 20 where you will lose all your ED XP/Fate points and very probably all key's of destiny?

[Krelar]

Is anyone who has grinded there way through more than 15 million XP actually considering TR'ing? I plan to TR just before the new TR system for the experience of doing it again with the gear and knowledge i didn't have, but having to grind through all the ED's especially with quest ransack meh it's not worth it. If you got a past life ED feat for every ED then maybe but still. To get my ED's maxxed i had more than 200 runs of the House of blades and a similar amount of the other i can't remember can't imagine how long it would take now.. Losing all the Twist points too wow just no.

What about key's of destinys that i have bought, we'll be getting those back, i think not if the past is anything to judge by. We have had your money can't program for toffee and we don't know how many key's you have used, oh yeah your TP account says how many but we can't give you them so we lied and said we didn't know then when you point that out they just say you can't.

There is already plenty 0f grind in this game from the laughable loot/Shard/Seal drop percentages

TLDR: Will you TR after Update 20 where you will lose all your ED XP/Fate points and very probably all key's of destiny?

Ummm... you won't lose ED XP so I'm not sure what you're talking about.


I am looking forward to providing everyone with the design details of proposed changes to the Reincarnation system in the coming weeks. Before we start rolling out the fact sheets and dev discussions, I intend to get in front of some of the greater concerns that players (and developers) have raised regarding our prior proposal for Epic Reincarnation.

To get to the point: We have really changed direction from what was previously proposed; and I for one am very pleased that the systems team has taken that direction from 'power from pain' to something more palatable, like 'rewarded for efforts.'

Epic reincarnation will require level cap and "points" (TBD) in a "Destiny Sphere" (TBD). This will allow a character to reincarnate from Epic cap to level 20, with equivalent heroic XP.
Doing so will not alter your earned Epic Destinies or Epic Destiny XP, and you can alternatively take a second step and reincarnate your Heroic levels to 1 and benefit from both a Heroic and Epic Past Life [PL] feat.
As you level Epic Destinies you will gain points toward Epic Reincarnation in the active Destiny Sphere (e.g. Arcane, Divine, Martial, Primal). Furthermore, there is plan to grant retroactive progress for those of you working on your Epic Destinies today.

Again, this is a departure from the previously shared proposal. The goals we set out to accomplish are still being met with these more generous alterations to the Epic Reincarnation design and I hope to share lots of detail changes in the next week (Soon TM).

~E

[Cordovan]

Is anyone who has grinded there way through more than 15 million XP actually considering TR'ing? I plan to TR just before the new TR system for the experience of doing it again with the gear and knowledge i didn't have, but having to grind through all the ED's especially with quest ransack meh it's not worth it. If you got a past life ED feat for every ED then maybe but still. To get my ED's maxxed i had more than 200 runs of the House of blades and a similar amount of the other i can't remember can't imagine how long it would take now.. Losing all the Twist points too wow just no.

What about key's of destinys that i have bought, we'll be getting those back, i think not if the past is anything to judge by. We have had your money can't program for toffee and we don't know how many key's you have used, oh yeah your TP account says how many but we can't give you them so we lied and said we didn't know then when you point that out they just say you can't.

There is already plenty 0f grind in this game from the laughable loot/Shard/Seal drop percentages

TLDR: Will you TR after Update 20 where you will lose all your ED XP/Fate points and very probably all key's of destiny?

You will not lose your Epic Destinies or Fate points when you "TR" after Update 20. For the latest information on Epic Reincarnation, please click here. (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/425596-Paradigm-Shift-how-we-are-looking-at-Epic-Reincarnation)

[Drwaz99]

You will not lose your Epic Destinies or Fate points when you "TR" after Update 20. For the latest information on Epic Reincarnation, please click here. (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/425596-Paradigm-Shift-how-we-are-looking-at-Epic-Reincarnation)

Last we heard developers weren't certain they could retain earned Fate Points since they were coded differently than bought fate points. Has this changed?

[redspecter23]

Last we heard developers weren't certain they could retain earned Fate Points since they were coded differently than bought fate points. Has this changed?

Since you no longer lose your destinies and fate points are tied into destiny levels, it should be no different than an LR at least as far as that's concerned. I'm thinking the issue would have come up with a destiny wipe IF they decided that players would not lose fate points in that system. That seems like there might be some coding difficulty separating earned and bought fate points. The new proposed system seems to be an additional feature that works around the destiny/fate point system rather than changing it drastically while adding a new element.

[Krelar]

Last we heard developers weren't certain they could retain earned Fate Points since they were coded differently than bought fate points. Has this changed?

I think that was when they were still considering losing ED xp, they weren't sure they could let us keep fate points but not ED xp. Since we are no longer losing ED xp keeping the fate points is likely not an issue.

[Drwaz99]

Since you no longer lose your destinies and fate points are tied into destiny levels, it should be no different than an LR at least as far as that's concerned. I'm thinking the issue would have come up with a destiny wipe IF they decided that players would not lose fate points in that system. That seems like there might be some coding difficulty separating earned and bought fate points. The new proposed system seems to be an additional feature that works around the destiny/fate point system rather than changing it drastically while adding a new element.

Ah gotcha. That makes sense, thanks.

[psykopeta]

Ah gotcha. That makes sense, thanks.

keep in mind that epic tr will have something like "earn xp in certain sphere that you'll spend in XXXXX to epic TR it and get epic PL"

so will be a bit of grind, ofc