Assassin T4 ''Killer" Enhancement - Is it worth or worthless?

[Seljuck]

Hi,

Like in title, anyone try this enh? Is it worth to spend 20AP just for that one enh on splash build?

Build will be 2wf splash (8ftr/6mnk/6rog?)

[HastyPudding]

I've been debating this, as well.

On one hand, it has nice synergy if you have a high assassinate DC. Killing a target grants you some doublestrike while waiting for your next assassinate.

On the other hand, you have to land the killing blow to get the bonus, otherwise it's wasted AP.

[Arkantios]

Completely worth it. With 4 stacks it's 20% extra doublestrike. And with your specific build if you're not building for dps and last hits, why make the build? Also if you get Execute (if 20% or below Hp, deal 500 damage.) This damage is amplified by helplessness, which can vastly improve your kill count.

[karl_k0ch]

Completely worth it. With 4 stacks it's 20% extra doublestrike.

This depends on the mobs you are fighting and the quests you are doing. There are several scenarios at cap where you won't get much mileage from the enhancement:

1. Mob CRs < Character level. This can happen if you run a lot of Epic Normals when you're at cap. Maybe even with epic hards.
2. Not many mobs to kill. In many raids, you don't come across many mobs to kill, e.g. Von6, FoT, Abbot. Even if the CR is high enough, this enhancement won't inprove your Boss dps.

[Wizza]

This depends on the mobs you are fighting and the quests you are doing. There are several scenarios at cap where you won't get much mileage from the enhancement:

1. Mob CRs < Character level. This can happen if you run a lot of Epic Normals when you're at cap. Maybe even with epic hards.
2. Not many mobs to kill. In many raids, you don't come across many mobs to kill, e.g. Von6, FoT, Abbot. Even if the CR is high enough, this enhancement won't inprove your Boss dps.

FoT has a bunch of mobs. People use them to max their Master's blitz counter, not sure why he couldn't do that for an extra 20% Doublestrike.

Von6 and Abbot yeah but they are both rarely run anyway. Even if they were run much more, just because it doesn't work in 2 quests doesn't mean that he shouldn't take Killer. It's like saying Legendary Dreadnoughts shouldn't take Master's Blitz because they can't use it in that 2 raids :p

To the OP: Yes, take it. It's a nice chunk of extra DPS.

[karl_k0ch]

FoT has a bunch of mobs. People use them to max their Master's blitz counter, not sure why he couldn't do that for an extra 20% Doublestrike.

Von6 and Abbot yeah but they are both rarely run anyway. Even if they were run much more, just because it doesn't work in 2 quests doesn't mean that he shouldn't take Killer. It's like saying Legendary Dreadnoughts shouldn't take Master's Blitz because they can't use it in that 2 raids :p

To the OP: Yes, take it. It's a nice chunk of extra DPS.

I'm not saying that it's worthless. I'm saying that it depends on your play style. The list of raids with only a few mobs to kill was by no means meant to be a complete list, but it was in hope it gave the right idea. What CR do the trash mobs in EN FoT have?

My rogue is currently sitting at cap and is running a few selected raids every now and then. I don't think that Killer is offering much to her.

[Wizza]

I'm not saying that it's worthless. I'm saying that it depends on your play style. The list of raids with only a few mobs to kill was by no means meant to be a complete list, but it was in hope it gave the right idea. What CR do the trash mobs in EN FoT have?

My rogue is currently sitting at cap and is running a few selected raids every now and then. I don't think that Killer is offering much to her.

Well if all you do is run raids, it sure isn't worth it.

Not really sure about mobs in EN FoT but most groups go for EH on Argo. Now, I haven't really stepped foot in an EH FoT since the enhancement pass but I THINK that mobs CR is high enough to give you the Killer buff.

[Qaliya]

I took one level of it. I'd take more but I consider the prerequisites useless (confirming criticals) or barely useful (+1 damage) and I didn't want to spend 6 AP on getting the full stack. I may eventually try it out because frankly I'm having trouble finding much even worth spending AP on of late.

It's hard to assess how much of a difference it makes because using two weapons it can be hard to tell when the doublestrike even procs.

[Arkantios]

I took one level of it. I'd take more but I consider the prerequisites useless (confirming criticals) or barely useful (+1 damage) and I didn't want to spend 6 AP on getting the full stack.

Surprisingly though, +1 Damage goes a long way. For instance if you go the overwhelming crit line, are in LD for the extra crit multiplier on 19-20 and then take the rogue knife spec and are using daggers/kukris, that x5 mult on 19-20. Thus, 5 damage from 1 point. It's huge.