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revanist25
09-16-2013, 05:30 PM
hey thinking of startign a morninglord battle cleric and looking for advice for builds for a melee battle cleric and also a caster battle cleric.not sure which one to go with.also wanna keep multiclassing limitied or not at all. also no monk splashes. but advice for melee cleric and offensive caster cleric would be nice.thx

burningwind
10-04-2013, 11:32 PM
my only suggestion is: don't do it...

p.s. morninglord is just inferior to any normal build..really don't see where we could use this broken iconic..

EnziteBob
10-05-2013, 12:29 AM
I have a morninglord battle cleric and it's lots of fun. It's already doing 70-80 points of damage a swing and that's right out the gate. You can really make a heavy mace hit pretty hard. Not many named heavy maces though, but you can craft some nice ones. not sure if I am going to splash. but still lots of fun. Only thing I can say about making one is have gear lined up. Right now I have a melee mode then I swap out to orb and rod for caster/heal mode (that orb is really nice).

burningwind
10-05-2013, 03:19 AM
I have a morninglord battle cleric and it's lots of fun. It's already doing 70-80 points of damage a swing and that's right out the gate. You can really make a heavy mace hit pretty hard. Not many named heavy maces though, but you can craft some nice ones. not sure if I am going to splash. but still lots of fun. Only thing I can say about making one is have gear lined up. Right now I have a melee mode then I swap out to orb and rod for caster/heal mode (that orb is really nice).

crafting kinda stop before epic.. and so far i don't know any epic heavy mace wroth using... hmm

EnziteBob
10-05-2013, 03:31 AM
well I had a +5 lacerating flaming burst heavy mace that I just put force crit on and it is doing real well. Waiting for Mabar to put solar on it. By that time I should have the Wrathful Weapons enhancement so that adds another 3d4 light damage on a crit.

burningwind
10-05-2013, 03:57 PM
well I had a +5 lacerating flaming burst heavy mace that I just put force crit on and it is doing real well. Waiting for Mabar to put solar on it. By that time I should have the Wrathful Weapons enhancement so that adds another 3d4 light damage on a crit.

that you will, but you will be much better off with normal character. especially wf race, they make the best war priest due to favor weapon being two hand sword.

unbongwah
10-05-2013, 07:23 PM
ML BC is no worse than any other elven BC; which is to say, less than optimal, but you have Mass Heal, so who cares? :p

jalont
10-05-2013, 07:36 PM
that you will, but you will be much better off with normal character. especially wf race, they make the best war priest due to favor weapon being two hand sword.

This is just silly. You'd be much better off not making a battle cleric at all. You'd be much better off completely ignoring divines in the game. That isn't the point, obviously. If people were worried about optimal, they wouldn't be running a divine at all.

EnziteBob
10-05-2013, 07:55 PM
Warpriest has a lot of potential to make a good tank might need to splash a bit, but a self healing tank is always nice. If I was going to go tank I would probably go Dwarf.

RavenStormclaw
10-05-2013, 08:15 PM
Everyone disses morning lords but they have one real good thing going. Blessing of amatour. At tier three you get mass aid, mass death ward and mass spell resistance. I'm not sure how you can go wrong with that.

EnziteBob
10-05-2013, 08:37 PM
this is what I got so far. Have just got on rank since creation. I know it is not perfect but proper gear and tomes will fix most things.

http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/dennison_brillo/ScreenShot00262.jpg (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/dennison_brillo/media/ScreenShot00262.jpg.html)
Base stats:
STR: 18
DEX: 8
CON: 14
INT: 10
WIS: 15
CHA: 14

http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/dennison_brillo/ScreenShot00263.jpg (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/dennison_brillo/media/ScreenShot00263.jpg.html)

Feats taken:
Amaunator's Briliance
Cleave
Empower healing spell
Great cleave
Power Attack
Toughness X2 (one could be swapped out for stunning blow)

Notable skills:
Concentration 21
Heal 26
Intimidate 12.5 (used +2 skill tome and looking for gear and tome to up it)

This is not uber and a work in progress. Maybe you can take the good and the bad and go from there.

unbongwah
10-07-2013, 01:33 PM
Everyone disses morning lords but they have one real good thing going. Blessing of amatour. At tier three you get mass aid, mass death ward and mass spell resistance. I'm not sure how you can go wrong with that.
All of which are cleric spells already, so you're only saving a few spell slots & SPs using the ML SLA instead.

Some of the higher-tier stuff is kinda interesting - Light of the Sun God is obviously useful to a light Divine Disciple and Aura of Radiance might be interesting on some sort of hate-tank - but I'm not convinced they're worth the AP cost. Not when there's more than enough in the cleric trees to eat up your APs, anyway.