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cyfrak
09-07-2013, 06:48 AM
Is it intended to one spell negate other?
Creeping Cold dispel all niac's biting cold spells from mob - i found no word in known issues.
And same with two creeping colds from different druids. Greater Creeping Cold and Creeping Cold works fine together, but there's no way to two or more druids put CC on boss at same time, one "delete" other.
It pretty annoying when U're druid caster, and really got not too much other choises to nuke bosses, especially good like Creeping Cold spells.

Archangel_666
09-07-2013, 07:51 AM
Indeed. It's a source of serious irritation to me when on my Druid.

The issue is twofold: Once Creeping Cold or Greater Creeping Cold is applied all damage from Niacs stops. The DoT is still on the mob's bar, but until Creeping Cold/Greater Creeping Cold time out Niac's is essentially wasted. Also Creeping Cold and Greater Creeping Cold do not stack when cast by two or more Druids, essentially leaving one Druid to have fun with DoT's, while the rest cannot cast them.

Incidentally there's a similar issue with the Calomel Wraps from Canith Challenges. It's extremely annoying to know that you have a +10 weapon you could be using against that big mean Dragon, but you can't use it because there are casters in the party. Once the DoT from the Wraps procs damage from Niacs etc stops.

Charononus
09-07-2013, 06:35 PM
Is it intended to one spell negate other?
Creeping Cold dispel all niac's biting cold spells from mob - i found no word in known issues.
And same with two creeping colds from different druids. Greater Creeping Cold and Creeping Cold works fine together, but there's no way to two or more druids put CC on boss at same time, one "delete" other.
It pretty annoying when U're druid caster, and really got not too much other choises to nuke bosses, especially good like Creeping Cold spells.

Go shiradi and cast unmeta'd icestorm, earthquake, and then spam produce flame and fish for procs.

Pilgrim1
09-07-2013, 11:24 PM
Go shiradi and cast unmeta'd icestorm, earthquake, and then spam produce flame and fish for procs.

icestorm and all other persistent AOE's only allow shiradi procs on initial cast and times when mobs re-enter the aoe. The only exception however is earthquake.

The overlap off dots may be a display issue only, I thought the damage removal was fixed. It might be a good idea to test if this is a display issue or it stops the damage.

Munkenmo
09-07-2013, 11:55 PM
icestorm and all other persistent AOE's only allow shiradi procs on initial cast and times when mobs re-enter the aoe. The only exception however is earthquake.

The overlap off dots may be a display issue only, I thought the damage removal was fixed. It might be a good idea to test if this is a display issue or it stops the damage.

I've tested it extensively, it's definitely not fixed.

cyfrak
09-08-2013, 01:24 AM
I've tested it extensively, it's definitely not fixed.
Same here, it's not only display problem. And i am sure it is broken from time when druids came live.
Thx for replays, good to know i'm not only unhappy with that.
Sadly it sounds like long-term and probably low-priority bug, maybe some day it will be in knows issues...

EllisDee37
09-08-2013, 01:46 AM
Yep, it's always been this way since Druids were introduced.

Pilgrim1
09-08-2013, 02:09 AM
I've tested it extensively, it's definitely not fixed.

is that in reference to druid + druid or is it arcane + druid, or both?

did you also test the weapon proc?

Also big bummer =(

Munkenmo
09-08-2013, 03:10 PM
is that in reference to druid + druid or is it arcane + druid, or both?

did you also test the weapon proc?

Also big bummer =(

Both.

I haven't tested crushing wave out in forever. There weren't any weapons good enough to justify screwing over casters whilst waiting on devs.