Redsonja - a Melee/Ranged DPS Barbarian

[Aviya]

I'VE UPDATED THIS BUILD FOR U24
If you are looking for a pure melee barbarian --> Redsonja 2.0 (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/452020-Redsonja-2-0-U24-Barbarian-DPS-Build?p=5479079#post5479079)

This build was created when level cap in ddo was 25. All the screenshots and videos in this post are from my old level 25 character.

If u like to see big numbers, huge crits, good survivability and the best DPS you have even seen, then this is the build you were searching for.

Redsonjah of Cannith
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-Melee capability of the barbarian class is well known.
The strength of barbarians come from the very high crit multipliers they can achieve (up to x10 with dreadnought destiny) and their uber strength score.

-Ranged ability (manyshot) gives alot of versatility to any end game build, expecially a barbarian one because it allows you to deal damage while you don't get hit, a ton of extra damage.
Put this 2 togheter and you will have a toon that can easily win the title for best overall dps.

So you want to see big numbers? Pre update 19 screenshots: now you can do even better.
-My highest melee crit damage with master blitz: 22,198
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- An Adrenaline Bow Crit NO slaying arrow in fury of the wild: 10,029
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5,7 seconds manyshot against EE Sobrien video (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bunnytube/9087480724/lightbox/)

I also might be one of the few, if not the only, barbarian who managed to solo EE Gianthold TOR (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/422315-Barbarian-EE-Gianthold-Tor)

The build:
Human 18Barbarian/1Ranger/1Fighter

Why human?
First of all racial healing amplification which is a huge boost to our survivability. I can self heal for almost 600 hp with a single silver flame potion and that is what can keep u alive while running hardest content of the game. Second reason is the extra feat on a feat starved build.

Quick explanation of the split.
-18 levels of barbarian give us x3 critical multiplier, damage boost and a huge amount of Strength.
-1 level of ranger give us Bow Strenght feat for free, a favored enemy selection and, with the new enhancements, infinite ammo of the arcane archer tree and +1 sneak attack dice from deepwood tree.
-1 level of fighter give haste boost (15% with current enhancements but 30% with the next expansion and +2 to hit and +1 to damage) and an extra feat.

36 pt
18 Str + LVL up points here
12 Dex +5 Dex Tome
18 Con
8 Int
8 Wis
8 Cha

If you miss the +5 dex tome you can drop Constitution a bit and start with 17 or even 16. This build still hits 1000 hp with the best gear set up.

Level Progression:
1-18 barbarian 19 ranger 20 fighter

Feats:
1 Power attack
1 Cleave
3 Two handed fighting
6 Great cleave
9 Improved Critical Slashing
12 Improved Two handed fighting
15 Greater Two handed fighting
18 Point blank shot
19R Favored Enemy Evil Outsider
20F Rapid Shot
21 Manyshot
24 Overwhelming critical
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26 Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Improved Critical Ranged
28 Elusive Target

Gear:
Head Black helm +3 insightful Strength, +7 saves +7 constitution
Black Dragonhide armor +14 Prr
Dream Visor: +20 vitality
Nether Grasp
Greater Convalescent bracers of Superior Parring
Ring of Shadows +2 insight con
Encrusted Ring +20% healing amp
Knost Belt
Treads of falling shadow
Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf
Planar focur Prowess +8 Strength
GreenSteel Necklace MinII Heavy fortification

Weapons:
Cleaver, Antique Greataxe, ESOS, +6 Holyburst Maul of Disruption, Pinion, Epic Bow of silver Flame

I have tested the build on lammania with the new enhancements and I'm very excited by the bonuses It will get mainly from Haste Boost 30%, Infinite Ammo and a nice pool of spell points for energy sheat and conjure arrows.
It will also gain roughly 100 more hp, which is always nice.

Stay tuned for updates!

Enhancements Version 0.99
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[Teen]

Very interesting build!

I'm impressed.

[Aviya]

Very interesting build!

I'm impressed.

Thanks!

[Xyfiel]

I think crit rage and death frenzy will be higher dps. Unless they changed the FB tier V to all crits not just on 19-20. I am leveling a very similar build right now but twf.

Compare just enhancements for an ESOS, the rest is static(OC, Dread, etc).

Crit rage II + DF
13-20 x4 = 45 total hit power(11*1 + 6*4 + 2*5)

Tier V FB
15-18 x4, 19-20 x 6 = 41 total hit power(13*1 + 4*4 + 2*6)

And the crit rage gets more seeker damage and crit effects.

Anyway, nice to know the build I am making is close to one who has already achieved. I got a long way to go for gear and fate points.

[Aviya]

I think crit rage and death frenzy will be higher dps. Unless they changed the FB tier V to all crits not just on 19-20. I am leveling a very similar build right now but twf.

Compare just enhancements for an ESOS, the rest is static(OC, Dread, etc).


When you do this kind of comparisons it's important to factor Epic Destiny mechanics as well.
I like to play alot in fury of the wild destiny to enhance my strength with the Manyshot+adrenaline combo.

In fury there is no point raising the crit range cause you will always score a crit hit under the effect of adrenaline. Meanwhile, to boost your dps during a "Furyshot", is very important to have the highest crit multipier as possible.
Of course dreadnought is the best ED for melee characters. A Melee-Only barbarian (say a pure barbarian) should always play in dreadnought and be a ravager with t5 crit rage and bully.

But with my build, and with ranged dps in general, things are different.
Manyshot in fury is the best burst dps we have in the game and this is particularly true for a frenzied berserker barbarian.
In Raids or full 6 people parties It's very important to have the huge burst dps from Fury to unleash in difficult situations or on red named bosses.
Trash mobs are very easily handled in a full party. It's the burst dps on Boss fights or when bad situations occur that is most important.
A well timed manyshot can save you many Raid runs.

To summarize my thoughts:
Go Frenzy berserk + Fury when you play in a group
Go Ravager + Dreadnought when you solo EE stuff

[C-Shell]

so babarians with enhancements and high strenght do good damage. who would have thought

[Aviya]

I've been asked to post my lammania enhancement selection.
It's still subject to change, since I could use some more testing myself, but should be something like this:

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[Sonos]

Just curious, I thought that with the new enhancements, the ToD set would be borked and therefore, you would not get the additional FB III set bonus. Is this not true? Thanks

[Aviya]

When testing on Lammania I wasn't getting the full benefits of the Barbarian set. Just +1 rage and +2 damage but not the +2strength and +2 con.
Hope they can fix it soon

[SilkofDrasnia]

I've been asked to post my lammania enhancement selection.
It's still subject to change, since I could use some more testing myself, but should be something like this:

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I will try out this build it looks nice!

I have a barb sitting at lvl 12, was going to go pure and then a few quick epics and TR again but decided to give this a go. Currently my race is half orc rather than human so I have 17 points to play with.

I was thinking maybe orcish weapons, stubborn and extra action boosts that brings me to 15 spent in the tree.

Any ideas? Do you think there is something better in the other trees?

I have 2 more barb lives to go after this one, next life will go human. I also have 3 paladin past lives on this character and +4 tomes to all stats.

[Tenebris-Niatellim]

Will a variant of this work for a first life 28 point build? IF so what changes in stat distribuitions need to be made?

I'm not looking to do as much damage (if he ever gets to 20 i'll reincarnate him for the 36 point build and follow this exactly) but I really like your idea for barb, and I'm kind of lost in the new ench pass so this was the first build that appealed to me. Your input would be greatly appreciated.

[Aviya]

Any ideas? Do you think there is something better in the other trees?


You can buy +1 Con from the Ravager tree if you find yourself not even.
Also nice is Ritual scarring (+3 PRR) also from Ravager tree.
Uncanny Dodger (+3% dodge) from Occult slayer tree.



Will a variant of this work for a first life 28 point build? IF so what changes in stat distribuitions need to be made?
The important thing is to get to 17 base dexterity (initial stat + Tomes) to get the Manyshot feat.

I'd recommend to start with 17 strength 14 dex 15 con and 9 int if you already have a +3 Dexterity tome.
If you don't, just go with 16 strength 15 dex 16 con with a +2 Dexterity Tome

[Tenebris-Niatellim]

You can buy +1 Con from the Ravager tree if you find yourself not even.
Also nice is Ritual scarring (+3 PRR) also from Ravager tree.
Uncanny Dodger (+3% dodge) from Occult slayer tree.


The important thing is to get to 17 base dexterity (initial stat + Tomes) to get the Manyshot feat.

I'd recommend to start with 17 strength 14 dex 15 con and 9 int if you already have a +3 Dexterity tome.
If you don't, just go with 16 strength 15 dex 16 con with a +2 Dexterity Tome

So considering you get the ranger level at 18, I'm guessing I probably can afford a dex +3 tome by then to get many shots right? Or do you get many shots earlier then 18?

[Tenebris-Niatellim]

Edit: NVM your build said you take it at 21, nevertheless I porbably will be able to afford a +3 tome by then...right?

Im kind of out of the loop on how tomes work and how to get them. I mean I hear people say you can buy then in the AH then I hear people say tomes are bought for DDO points so im always confused.

[Tenebris-Niatellim]

Edit: NVM your build said you take it at 21, nevertheless I porbably will be able to afford a +3 tome by then...right?

Im kind of out of the loop on how tomes work and how to get them. I mean I hear people say you can buy then in the AH then I hear people say tomes are bought for DDO points so im always confused.

(btw srry dosent let me edit my prev posts for some reason.)

[Tenebris-Niatellim]

and are enhancements not important?

Would they just be Intimidate and Balance?

[Aviya]

and are enhancements not important?

Would they just be Intimidate and Balance?

Skills should be UMD and balance

[Tenebris-Niatellim]

Skills should be UMD and balance

Well that's problematic Q_Q

Ive been maxing intimidate, balance and spot.

put 1 point in tumble

put 3 points in jump (22 base strength without equipment gives +6 mod? So I would have 9 jump with equips a little over 10 jump which is optimal)

Then I dumped the rest into swim...FML (only level 5 tho, so I guess itll be fine if I put the 1 point ive been dumping into swim, into UMD? or is it slightly to late?)

[Aviya]

Well that's problematic Q_Q

Ive been maxing intimidate, balance and spot.

put 1 point in tumble

put 3 points in jump (22 base strength without equipment gives +6 mod? So I would have 9 jump with equips a little over 10 jump which is optimal)

Then I dumped the rest into swim...FML (only level 5 tho, so I guess itll be fine if I put the 1 point ive been dumping into swim, into UMD? or is it slightly to late?)

Make sure to have 11 trained ranks (22 points spent) at lvl 20.
The other skills are not really important

[troublegurl]

what aligment did you use

[WilbyZ]

When you can, could you update the Enhancements from Live - The human tree seems different now :)

Also, is there a reason for 1 Fighter / 1 Ranger vs 2 Ranger? I can see you took a Rapid Shot on the Fighter level... which is auto granted by 2 Ranger -- Hmm... Kensi tree seems different now too.

[Aviya]

Alignment is not important at all. I went true neutral.


When you can, could you update the Enhancements from Live - The human tree seems different now :)

Also, is there a reason for 1 Fighter / 1 Ranger vs 2 Ranger? I can see you took a Rapid Shot on the Fighter level... which is auto granted by 2 Ranger -- Hmm... Kensi tree seems different now too.

It seems to me that the enhancements are ok.
I don't see any changes and I currently have that configuration on live.
Can you explain what differences you are experiencing?

Fighter is better because gives you +2 to hit and +1 damage and haste boost 30% for less action points

[skorpeon]

Alignment is not important at all. I went true neutral.



It seems to me that the enhancements are ok.
I don't see any changes and I currently have that configuration on live.
Can you explain what differences you are experiencing?

Fighter is better because gives you +2 to hit and +1 damage and haste boost 30% for less action points

I am interested in trying this build out, I don't have monk or druid, so just premium 32 pt build. I love playing rangers but the idea of switching to a 2HW after a burst missile and wading in is appealing. Also hoping for less worry about so many weapons and equipment.

any thoughts, how would the level progression and feats go?

[unbongwah]

I am interested in trying this build out, I don't have monk or druid, so just premium 32 pt build.
It's pretty easy to downgrade this build to a 32-pt first-lifer. Here's what I was messing with pre-U19:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 25 True Neutral Human Female
(1 Fighter \ 18 Barbarian \ 1 Ranger \ 5 Epic)
Hit Points: 379
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 11
Will: 5

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 25)
Strength 18 25
Dexterity 15 17
Constitution 14 16
Intelligence 10 12
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 8 8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Barbarian)


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 4 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Barbarian)


Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot


Level 7 (Barbarian)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Manyshot


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Barbarian)


Level 11 (Barbarian)


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 13 (Barbarian)


Level 14 (Barbarian)


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Barbarian)


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Barbarian)


Level 20 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 21 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 22 (Barbarian)


Level 23 (Barbarian)


Level 24 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Overwhelming Critical


Level 25 (Barbarian)


I front-loaded Manyshot because I like playing with my bow, but it meant backloading Great Cleave; most people would probably suggest taking GC @ lvl 6 and delaying MS (and ftr splash w/Rapid Shot) to lvl 12 instead.

If I wanted to do TWF instead of THF, I would probably take rgr 2 instead of ftr 1.

[skorpeon]

Great I will go with this, did not realsie when I change server I have to reset with good ol 28 build.

well I guess a few favour runs will get me back to the build I am after.

Cheers
Skorp

[Battlehawke]

A quick question for you Aviya or anyone else that may know:

I noticed that you are running around in Black Dragonhide. Since you have the 1 Lvl of Ftr wouldn't the Black Dragonplate be better? It just seems like the extra PRR would be more benificial than Uncanny Dodge.

[skorpeon]

A quick question for you Aviya or anyone else that may know:

I noticed that you are running around in Black Dragonhide. Since you have the 1 Lvl of Ftr wouldn't the Black Dragonplate be better? It just seems like the extra PRR would be more benificial than Uncanny Dodge.

I think you would lose a number of key abilities if you had med or heavy armor. Evasion, dodge are a few. I am guessing core barbarian abilities are also armor dependent also.

Barbarians are able to wear either light armor or medium armor. But by mid-level, in order to achieve a useful armor class the barbarian would have to sacrifice DPS. (from DDO - wiki)

[Battlehawke]

I think you would love a number of key abilities if you had med or heavy armor. Evasion, dodge are a few. I am guessing core barbarian abilities are also armor dependent also.

Barbarians are able to wear either light armor or medium armor. But by mid-level, in order to achieve a useful armor class the barbarian would have to sacrifice DPS. (from DDO - wiki)

Isn't the ONLY thing you lose Uncanny Dodge? I don't think you lose any Barbarian Skills or Abilities other than that. Barbarians do not get Evasion as a Class Feat.

It's not AC that you are looking for with the Heavy Armor. It's the PRR. So, it should have no impact on DPS.

Again, I'm asking why Light over Heavy because I think all you lose is Uncanny Dodge and some Dodge. However I don't usually build for Dodge so I'm not sure if 25'ish more PRR would be worth the Sacrifice for the dodge that you lose.

[unbongwah]

Isn't the ONLY thing you lose Uncanny Dodge?
AFAIK, Uncanny Dodge isn't armor-dependent. Or are you talking about how the MDB of hvy caps your Dodge bonus?

However I don't usually build for Dodge so I'm not sure if 25'ish more PRR would be worth the Sacrifice for the dodge that you lose.
Isn't the difference less than that? BAB should be 26 at lvl 28 on this build: hvy armor is 32 PRR (26 + 6); lt armor is 15 PRR (26 / 2 + 2). With no other sources of PRR, that's, what, about 7-8% increase in dmg mitigation?

[Aviya]

You really want to go Light armor with this toon.
The reason is that when you play Legendary Dreadnought Master Blitz you gain 25% dodge and if you are wearing a Heavy armor you basically waste all of that.
Now of course I don't always use Master Blitz, as I often play in fury of the Wild, but when I do: light armor is far superior.

Even in fury of the wild the light armor is still very nice because barbarians have 5% base dodge +8% from the Adamantine Wolf Cloak for a total of 13% dodge.

One could of course decide to go heavy for the PRR, and it would be ok when running in Fury of the wild, but that choice would be inferior in Legendary Dreadnought.
Meanwhile if you go light armor you still do just fine in fury because you compensate the loss of PRR with your 10% extra dodge.

[DareDelvis]

Interesting build.

I have a first life lvl Barb with +4 tomes across the board.

I may use the +20 to LR vs TR, anyway, what twists are recommended?

[Aviya]

I may use the +20 to LR vs TR, anyway, what twists are recommended?

In fury you want to use Lay waste, Momentum Swing and pin (brace for impact if you are going to run a quest with rogues like the one from the new expansion)
In Dreadnought go with sense weakness, pin and primal scream

[Jhaeran]

Its been awhile since a post on this thread. Is this still a viable build? Any suggested changes to what is posted for a non-ideally geared toon? Thinking about LR'ing my TR (1 barb past life) into it as well.

[Stinging_Bee]

Its been awhile since a post on this thread. Is this still a viable build? Any suggested changes to what is posted for a non-ideally geared toon? Thinking about LR'ing my TR (1 barb past life) into it as well.

Great build for a barbarian Imho

[Aviya]

Honestly for a barbarian is pretty much the best build you can have if you like some ranged abilities (something I reccommend cause there are some monsters where it's very very hard to melee especially without a dedicated healer).
If you don't mind going for something different than a barbarian I'd advice for a fighter monk combination. Slightly less dps than the barbarian but much much better survivability thanks to evasion e good saves. You also get to use cocoon instead of the silver flames pots so no slow effect.

[arcane_nite]

Which black dragon armor do you recommend?

[Aviya]

Which black dragon armor do you recommend?

Light armor

[unbongwah]

BTW, what do you think of switching from THF to SWF? You give up glancing blows and might be better off respeccing into Ravager, but...any thoughts on what your DPS would be like?

[Aviya]

BTW, what do you think of switching from THF to SWF? You give up glancing blows and might be better off respeccing into Ravager, but...any thoughts on what your DPS would be like?

I'm not a big fan of Swf style. I like my cleave range with a THF weapon.

For a great SWF build I'd go with zoda's DD parody build. 12/6/2 swashbuckling bard.

[Spellonzo]

I'm not a big fan of Swf style. I like my cleave range with a THF weapon.

For a great SWF build I'd go with zoda's DD parody build. 12/6/2 swashbuckling bard.

Where is toughness. You can't have this Berserker tree past the 3rd core without toughness. This can't be done

[unbongwah]

Where is toughness. You can't have this Berserker tree past the 3rd core without toughness. This can't be done
If you're talking about the Toughness feat, it's unnecessary. The "Toughness" pre-req on Frenzy refers to the lvl 3 Toughness enhancement, not the feat. Because it wouldn't be D&D without confusing & overloaded nomenclature (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0012.html).

[Cuchilo]

Can you post your epic choices under LD and FotW please.

Also, how do you get Master's Blitz up, the build seems light on Tactical feats. What do you use most often?

[Xunnar]

I've been looking for a Barbarian build for a while, and I like the looks of this one.
The thing is I only have 32p build and no tomes available.
Is there anything I can do to make it viable with those factors in mind?

[unbongwah]

The thing is I only have 32p build and no tomes available.
Is there anything I can do to make it viable with those factors in mind?
Now that Turbine has dropped the STR pre-req on Overwhelming Crit, the only stat pre-reqs on this build are STR 17 for ITHF/GTHF and DEX 17 for Manyshot. Everything else is just bragging rights. :cool:

For a 32-pt build w/out tomes, I would start 16/16/16/10/8/8; you can either put a lvl-up pt into DEX or buy a +1 DEX tome off the AH to qualify for Manyshot.

[Xunnar]

Now that Turbine has dropped the STR pre-req on Overwhelming Crit, the only stat pre-reqs on this build are STR 17 for ITHF/GTHF and DEX 17 for Manyshot. Everything else is just bragging rights. :cool:

For a 32-pt build w/out tomes, I would start 16/16/16/10/8/8; you can either put a lvl-up pt into DEX or buy a +1 DEX tome off the AH to qualify for Manyshot.


Awesome, thanks!

[unbongwah]

Quick conversion:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.23.01
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 26 True Neutral Human Female
(1 Fighter \ 18 Barbarian \ 1 Ranger \ 6 Epic)
Hit Points: 412
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 11
Will: 5

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 26)
Strength 16 21
Dexterity 16 17
Constitution 16 16
Intelligence 10 10
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 8 8

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Barbarian)


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave


Level 5 (Barbarian)


Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot


Level 7 (Barbarian)


Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Barbarian)


Level 11 (Barbarian)


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 13 (Barbarian)


Level 14 (Barbarian)


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Barbarian)


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Barbarian)


Level 20 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting


I prefer to get Manyshot ASAP, but that means backloading the THF feats. If you'd prefer to focus on melee-only while heroic leveling, just reverse the order on PBS/RS/MS and the THF chain.

[Aviya]

Guys I've Posted the new build for update 24 changes, hope you guys find it useful! https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/452020-Redsonja-2-0-U24-Barbarian-DPS-Build?p=5479079#post5479079

[Cryptic.Assassin]

Guys I've Posted the new build for update 24 changes, hope you guys find it useful! https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/452020-Redsonja-2-0-U24-Barbarian-DPS-Build?p=5479079#post5479079

Hi there, first off let me say thank you for this amazing looking build! I am getting ready to TR back to barb as it's my favorite class and I love the idea of having a bit of ranged capability so I was going to give this a go.

Is this still an awesome build? I remember that the synergy between fury and ranged was changed a few updates back but I cannot remember what it was. I've looked at your new Sonja build and it looks great but I like this one better personally.

I guess my questions are, are there any changes to enhancements that'd you'd make now since this builds inception? Is furyshot still viable?

Thanks for any replies. :)

[Aviya]

Hi there, first off let me say thank you for this amazing looking build! I am getting ready to TR back to barb as it's my favorite class and I love the idea of having a bit of ranged capability so I was going to give this a go.

Is this still an awesome build? I remember that the synergy between fury and ranged was changed a few updates back but I cannot remember what it was. I've looked at your new Sonja build and it looks great but I like this one better personally.

I guess my questions are, are there any changes to enhancements that'd you'd make now since this builds inception? Is furyshot still viable?

Thanks for any replies. :)

The old build is kinda viable but a bit outdated.
The biggest change happened when master blitz was changed from 250% damage boost to 70 melee/ranged power. That basically killed the utility of manyshot because the low base damage doesn't really justify put your greataxe down most of the time. That's why I created the melee only version now.

That being said, if you want to have a mix of melee and ranged barbarian for fury destiny I'd recommend a different class split and enhancement split so you can get the most out of playing in fury of the wild which is always very fun.

A Class split that I see well is 12 barbarian, 6 ranger, 2 fighter.

6 Ranger Deepwood gives you sniper shot (+2 critical multiplier and +2W) that you can use in combo with adrenaline during manyshots

Fighter gives 3 feats, 2 bonus and heavy armor proficiency.

At level 24 you have the option of Ic bludgeon or stunning blow according to your taste.

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Starting
Abilities Base Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1)
Strength 18
Dexterity 14
Constitution 17
Intelligence 9
Wisdom 8
Charisma 8

Tomes Used
+5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting

Level 2 (Barbarian)

Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot

Level 4 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead

Level 5 (Barbarian)

Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave

Level 7 (Barbarian)

Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR

Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 10 (Ranger)

Level 11 (Ranger)

Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Dragon
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting

Level 13 (Ranger)
Feat: (Autogranted) Manyshot

Level 14 (Barbarian)

Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting

Level 16 (Barbarian)

Level 17 (Barbarian)

Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons

Level 19 (Barbarian)

Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Precise Shot

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

Level 22 (Epic)

Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons or Stunning Blow

Level 25 (Epic)

Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Positive

Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction

Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting

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[Caprice]

Edit: Reading fail on my part. THF vs TWF, duh. I also removed the comment about Cleric, since I don't see 2 feats worth removing to fit in Divine Might.

12/6/2 is a very strong split. You might consider taking Ranger at level 1 for some extra skillpoints.

I've been thinking about going 11/6/3 for working through Barbarian PLs, since we get a silly amount of PRR/MRR for a cheap 6 AP into Stalwart Defender, or maybe 10/6/4 for an extra feat.

[Aviya]

I've been thinking about going 11/6/3 for working through Barbarian PLs, since we get a silly amount of PRR/MRR for a cheap 6 AP into Stalwart Defender, or maybe 10/6/4 for an extra feat.

Stalwart defender is not possible because it prevents you from becoming raged so that rules out 11/6/3
As for 10/6/4 you lose some healing amplification and some hp for 1 feat which is something not worth since we have all the feats we need so I'm pretty sure the build 12barb 6 ranger 2 fighter I posted is the one I like most.
Cleric option is totally viable but kinda tight on enhancements and feats but workable for sure. You end up loosing some minor Prr and utility for like 5 more damage which is always nice.

[Cryptic.Assassin]

Wow, tyvm for the detailed response!
How does the new ranged build compare to your 18/1/1 red sonja in terms of dps though? I really only want ranged for fun/flavor because melee gets very boring to me after a while but if the dps is a lot lower than I'd probably just go with your pure barb RS 2.0 build since I melee 95% of the time anyway.

I just TRed from a BF Cetus build and the mix of melee/ranged was the most fun i've had on my melee in a long time and the dps was quite nice but barbarian has always been my favorite class so I think I will give this one a go.

Ty again for the builds and the replies. :)

[Stinging_Bee]

Wow, tyvm for the detailed response!
How does the new ranged build compare to your 18/1/1 red sonja in terms of dps though? I really only want ranged for fun/flavor because melee gets very boring to me after a while but if the dps is a lot lower than I'd probably just go with your pure barb RS 2.0 build since I melee 95% of the time anyway.

I just TRed from a BF Cetus build and the mix of melee/ranged was the most fun i've had on my melee in a long time and the dps was quite nice but barbarian has always been my favorite class so I think I will give this one a go.

Ty again for the builds and the replies. :)

I'd try pure barbarian first. If you feel you are really missing ranged ability you can go the other route

[Caprice]

Stalwart defender is not possible because it prevents you from becoming raged so that rules out 11/6/3
Good point! Thanks for preventing a noob mistake. :-)