Quickest amount of time to hit Level 20, using Stone of Experience?

[~Firekragg]

I'm curious what the fastest amount of time has been spent leveling a toon from 1 to 20, using a Stone of Experience?

I logged back on (10th time after quitting) three weeks ago to check out Update 17. Before my addiction could kick back in and take hold, I asked a few questions about how it was, and looked at some of the new items. While doing so, <long story short>, a random individual gave me an Otto's box. Maybe because we had a good chat about the game or because she was a long-term friendly player ... but regardless, the addiction was triggered right there back into full force.

I figure since I have it, and I'm doing my best to end my playing (until addiction is worked out), I'll go out with a bang (again, like the many other times). So I'll level my toon as fast as I can from 1 to 20, using the XP tricks while using the stone. I'm just curious what lvl some toons have reached, and then what they quested/farmed for that remainder of xp to hit lvl 20.

I'm a 7th TR, so I'm in the highest experience table requirements. This is what I have, that I figured would add to the Stone's XP per leveling ...

Voice of Master 5%
XP Ship Buff 5%
Soverign XP Pot 50%
Greater Tome of Learning 20% (Not sure if this applies)

Doing the math, it looks like I'll hit level 18, with 60% xp bonus. What I don't know is if level 19 can be hit, since banking experience, you usually only are allowed 1 level over.

I just want to try doing a run from level 1 to 20 in 24 hours. Just looking for advice on how to make it happen. I know I can hit level 1-8 in 12 hours ... done it before. Maybe I'll cut it down to 8 hours using a Sovereign pot from the box.

Thanks,

Firekragg of Sarlona

[TheNewSlarden]

The tome won't work but the 10% VIP bonus will.

[~swimmingjellycube]

The greater tome of learning does not apply (as far as I know)

To get maximum bonus past level 16, you want to ensure that you haven't gained much xp into level 8

You'll be a significant portion of the way through level 18.

You can bank part of the stone's xp, but because level 15 quests are not great xp, you might not want to do that. Instead, you can just level to 18, and farm vale.

[Enoach]

This weekend I began a journey of my 6th Life

I played 8 hours (not non-stop on Saturday) and 8 hours (again not non-stop) on Sunday. For me I held at Level 6 to prevent going over as I would stop no matter what at 1 XP short of Level 2. I took Level 7 and found an explorer in Cerulean Hills for 57 XP (putting me 56 XP into level 8 - I was going to use an explorer in Korthos but it appears somehow I got all but one so it would have given me even more XP because of the Explorer completion.

Utilized the following:

50% XP Potion
10% VIP bonus - As already noted Tome of XP does not help in this instance
05% Voice of the master
04% Guild XP Shrine
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69% XP bonus

This netted me 3.4 Million XP putting me at 19 with XP towards the first bubble and just over 500K XP to go to get to Level 20

If I would have used the 30% XP potion that came with the Otto's box I would have only received 3 Million XP putting me at Level 18 and one bubble. This would have been just over 900K XP to get to Level 20.

I will be Capped tonight and have only put in 8 additional hours of in game time on this character (BTW I'm using Guild Augments to help me track time. So by my estimate this life will have taken me 30 hours of Game Time (not all of it actively earning XP).

[~Grumpycat]

With XP stone, the other XP boosts from Otto's box, ship buffs etc, I know some one who is on nearly his 30th life and have actually seen him make 20 in under 3 days. He had wanted to TR again one night and was miffed that he still had just over 5hrs left on timer before he could TR again.

It depends on the help you have, the time you have, the quests you choose, how you farm the difficulty levels of each of those and the lack of time spent buffing, chatting and waiting for a group to show up/fill.

I dont have that hard core of a grind it out attitude so it takes me a bit over 2 weeks actually playing the toon. I say actually playing the toon as I have several and dont always play the TR. I would get bored with it very quickly and have to take an extended break to make it fun again.

[~Firekragg]

I completely forgot to check how long the TR timer was. On Wiki, it states it is 1 week. Is this still the effective timer for a True Reincarnation?

My mind begin wandering with the thought of how fast someone could hit multiple TR lives in a week. I wonder if the development team has talked about lowering the TR timer, or perhaps removing it.

[TheNameIwasntB4]

This weekend I began a journey of my 6th Life

I played 8 hours (not non-stop on Saturday) and 8 hours (again not non-stop) on Sunday. For me I held at Level 6 to prevent going over as I would stop no matter what at 1 XP short of Level 2. I took Level 7 and found an explorer in Cerulean Hills for 57 XP (putting me 56 XP into level 8 - I was going to use an explorer in Korthos but it appears somehow I got all but one so it would have given me even more XP because of the Explorer completion.

Utilized the following:

50% XP Potion
10% VIP bonus - As already noted Tome of XP does not help in this instance
05% Voice of the master
04% Guild XP Shrine
-----
69% XP bonus

This netted me 3.4 Million XP putting me at 19 with XP towards the first bubble and just over 500K XP to go to get to Level 20

If I would have used the 30% XP potion that came with the Otto's box I would have only received 3 Million XP putting me at Level 18 and one bubble. This would have been just over 900K XP to get to Level 20.

I will be Capped tonight and have only put in 8 additional hours of in game time on this character (BTW I'm using Guild Augments to help me track time. So by my estimate this life will have taken me 30 hours of Game Time (not all of it actively earning XP).

Right there is proof that it exists.

Again, I will mention that Turbine is going to do another stone from Level 16 to 20. Another Stone from 20 to 24. And another stone to go from 24 to 28. People will pay a lot of money to do it.

[Enoach]

Right there is proof that it exists.

...

Easy Button I still had to earn 950K ish myself :)

[~popejubal]

You can also wait for a 20% XP weekend.

And you can get very nice XP even from quests that are far below your level once you do use the stone, so don't be afraid to dive into lower level quests. With the all of the +XP bonuses that add to base XP, even -99% XP from being over level isn't going to matter and you'll blow through the quests in no time flat because you're severely over level.

[~droid_327]

You can also wait for a 20% XP weekend.

And you can get very nice XP even from quests that are far below your level once you do use the stone, so don't be afraid to dive into lower level quests. With the all of the +XP bonuses that add to base XP, even -99% XP from being over level isn't going to matter and you'll blow through the quests in no time flat because you're severely over level.

You'll want to do this anyway for cheap and easy favor, to hit your 100 milestones and earn more TP, of course. But yes - with 50% Elite streak, 80% First Completion Elite, 20% Bravery Bonus, 20% Tome, plus Conquest, Ransack, secret door and trap bonuses, and optionals, as long as you're not completely locked out for XP (level-7) then you're only going from ~330 to ~230% of base XP. That means if you stone up to 18, you can run L10 Elite quests and still get XP + favor. Of course, base XP for L10 quests is piddly for a L18, but you still get something, and it starts to add up by the time you work your way up through GH and Vale :)

[b_r_z_y_t_k_i]

Some people were hitting 20 in less than 20 hours of play time before vip xp bonus and stones were introduced, so i think with 3,4 mil free xp the time to hit 20 would be significantly cut down - like 5-6 hours tops?

[Deadlock]

I completely forgot to check how long the TR timer was. On Wiki, it states it is 1 week. Is this still the effective timer for a True Reincarnation?

My mind begin wandering with the thought of how fast someone could hit multiple TR lives in a week. I wonder if the development team has talked about lowering the TR timer, or perhaps removing it.

Why would you want this removed?

Most people are more concerned by the lack of lfm's at mid-game, and you want to encourage the pay-to-win easy button for people to bypass this and just go from 408,500 xp straight to 3,590,400 xp by using a 50% pot, 5% ship buff, 5% VOM and 10% VIP? Or straight to 4,039,200 xp if there was a 20% xp event on. Can you really argue that this is beneficial to the game in any way?

[~atomicmew3]

I've been doing ~10 hours real time on average, 100% solo and no VIP bonus. By real time, I mean not just the time spent in quests. Remember people have been TRing in ~20-30 hours real time, so 10 hours isn't amazing or anything. I expect a good duo team could do it in 6-8, especially as VIPs, since they get a huge XP boost on their stones.

Here's the breakdown with lots of fudge factor:

Korthos town elite ~30 mins
level 2
Harbor elites + farm + WW ~2 hrs
level 5
Shadow crypt (dual box sorc) 1.5 hrs
level 8
Stone
level 18
(dual box sorc)
Running with devils1.5 hrs
Rainbow 1.5 hrs
Sane asylum 1 hr
enter the kobold 1.5 hrs
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9.5 hrs total + 30 mins extra fudge = 10 hrs

[Nightmanis]

Couple guys I know on my server said they did it in 7 hours total. So far that's the fastest I know.

[~Firekragg]

Why would you want this removed?

Most people are more concerned by the lack of lfm's at mid-game, and you want to encourage the pay-to-win easy button for people to bypass this and just go from 408,500 xp straight to 3,590,400 xp by using a 50% pot, 5% ship buff, 5% VOM and 10% VIP? Or straight to 4,039,200 xp if there was a 20% xp event on. Can you really argue that this is beneficial to the game in any way?

I would only want to try it for a personal challenge. If I had a full weekend open to play DDO, and I was able to achieve Lvls 1-20 within 10 hours on a Saturday, then I'd easily try to duplicate the same on a Sunday. Yes, burnout may ensue, but it's primarily for a challenge. Alas, I don't have a 2nd Otto's box so I don't plan for this ... and with a 1 week timer, this will likely not occur.

Aside from a speed TR, my typical playstyle is to run all levels and open LFMs as I "do my charity work" for the community and help others.

[~Grimjan]

You'll want to do this anyway for cheap and easy favor, to hit your 100 milestones and earn more TP, of course. But yes - with 50% Elite streak, 80% First Completion Elite, 20% Bravery Bonus, 20% Tome, plus Conquest, Ransack, secret door and trap bonuses, and optionals, as long as you're not completely locked out for XP (level-7) then you're only going from ~330 to ~230% of base XP. That means if you stone up to 18, you can run L10 Elite quests and still get XP + favor. Of course, base XP for L10 quests is piddly for a L18, but you still get something, and it starts to add up by the time you work your way up through GH and Vale :)

Let's fix some mistakes here: optionals take the same hit as base but no bonus, worthless.
Elite streak and first time elite: nope, only if you're in bravery range.

What you have is -10% to -99% and +80% elite +50% greater tome +10% no death +10% no reentry and up to 70% from kills, break, traps and doors.

Add in the quick kill times, favor and diversity (non bleeding eyes!) and it's very much worth it.

[~mirkocalvani]

level 5
Shadow crypt (dual box sorc) 1.5 hrs
level 8
Stone
s

Lev 5 = 118.500
Lev 8 = 408.500

really?

[~Maus154]

Why would you want this removed?

Most people are more concerned by the lack of lfm's at mid-game, and you want to encourage the pay-to-win easy button for people to bypass this and just go from 408,500 xp straight to 3,590,400 xp by using a 50% pot, 5% ship buff, 5% VOM and 10% VIP? Or straight to 4,039,200 xp if there was a 20% xp event on. Can you really argue that this is beneficial to the game in any way?

^This right here sums up my thoughts on a significant problem DDO faces. They've created a system with perverse incentives. The slew of XP pots, XP stones, ship buffs may provide a recognizable stream of income from the game store. Punitive TR Xp requirements for relatively decreasing net benefit ensure that people will want to use them (especially if its the only way to save a character who's build becomes obsolete or to try something new on it). But, with the more people that utilize them the fewer people are running content in a certain level range, making the game feel less populated, decreasing the content used, and discouraging players in the long-run.

[Deadlock]

Lev 5 = 118.500
Lev 8 = 408.500

really?

If you're asking if it's possible to gain that amount of XP from Shadow Crypt, the answer is: Easily.

A VIP streaking with a Greater Tome of learning. 30% pot, 5% ship buff, 5% VOM, elite farming and finishing with a hard and normal will get 417,608 assuming 6 optionals per run which is a reasonable average.

[TheNewSlarden]

If you're asking if it's possible to gain that amount of XP from Shadow Crypt, the answer is: Easily.

A VIP streaking with a Greater Tome of learning. 30% pot, 5% ship buff, 5% VOM, elite farming and finishing with a hard and normal will get 417,608 assuming 6 optionals per run which is a reasonable average.

Very true since you will always get 10% plus all the bonuses which can easily bring you to 100%

You can in fact level from 20 to 25 rather quickly doing nothing but impossible demand runs with a 50% sovereign pot going + voice + devious bonus + no re-entries and no deaths with 2 minute runs. Especially on an xp bonus weekend. I am not saying it's pleasant or the best way to go - I am just saying you can do it and it may very well be the fastest way to 25.

[Deadlock]

Very true since you will always get 10% plus all the bonuses which can easily bring you to 100%

You can in fact level from 20 to 25 rather quickly doing nothing but impossible demand runs with a 50% sovereign pot going + voice + devious bonus + no re-entries and no deaths with 2 minute runs. Especially on an xp bonus weekend. I am not saying it's pleasant or the best way to go - I am just saying you can do it and it may very well be the fastest way to 25.

Have you done this yourself?

Any repetition penalty?

[TheNewSlarden]

Have you done this yourself?

Any repetition penalty?

I never tried it and I may be (probably am) wrong because I think the bonus is based on total xp and not base.

[Dorian]

You can in fact level from 20 to 25 rather quickly doing nothing but impossible demand runs with a 50% sovereign pot going + voice + devious bonus + no re-entries and no deaths with 2 minute runs. Especially on an xp bonus weekend. I am not saying it's pleasant or the best way to go - I am just saying you can do it and it may very well be the fastest way to 25.

Wouldn't you take a hit to XP from the repeat penalty?

[kendo]

possibly a silly question but have used only 1 stone, back when they first came out and didn't know at that time that things like ship buffs, VoM, etc increased the XP received.

so my question is -- do you need to use the stone while in a mission or wilderness area for the XP pot to factor in?? the timer turns off when in public areas or your ship but I don't know if that means the effect also turns off.

appreciate confirmation on how that works with the XP stone, thanks

[kendo]

possibly a silly question but have used only 1 stone, back when they first came out and didn't know at that time that things like ship buffs, VoM, etc increased the XP received.

so my question is -- do you need to use the stone while in a mission or wilderness area for the XP pot to factor in?? the timer turns off when in public areas or your ship but I don't know if that means the effect also turns off.

appreciate confirmation on how that works with the XP stone, thanks

wondering if anyone could provide an answer to this question, would be greatly appreciated.

[Azarddoze]

possibly a silly question but have used only 1 stone, back when they first came out and didn't know at that time that things like ship buffs, VoM, etc increased the XP received.

so my question is -- do you need to use the stone while in a mission or wilderness area for the XP pot to factor in?? the timer turns off when in public areas or your ship but I don't know if that means the effect also turns off.

appreciate confirmation on how that works with the XP stone, thanks

Nope, did it in town, the pots and everything kicked in. I am not so sure when it comes to bonus exp like the 15% they offer this weekend. This might be only applyable in quests/wildernesses but for the most part you are fine in public areas.