Shadowfall Conspiracy collector's edition

[Darthsarlacc]

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[~TheMizzaroo]

Sounds expensive

[~Dyna-The-Cat]

What do you guys think should be in the next expansion collector's edition?

I was thinking

1 +4 supreme tome ability
1 otto's irresistable box
1 +2 tome of fate
1 greater tome of learning
5 sovereign I experience elixirs

I think that list is comprised of things you want..... and probably want a discount pack on....
lol....

For those that already farmed +4s, already have a greater learning tome, and got the +2 fate tome, that CE reward list seems like a huge waste of money/not worth considering.

I'd want a collector's edition to have collector's items. Not just desirable things already purchasable in ddo store / game.

[Silverleafeon]

I'd want a collector's edition to have collector's items. Not just desirable things already purchasable in ddo store / game.

Nods happily and hopes for another permanent gold seal hire,
even a level 28 version of the battle cat would be acceptable.

An elephant comes to mind, but the size blocking line of sight might be an issue.

Small dragon, perhaps?

[~Stormanne1]

This time around, they need multiple Collector's Editions. At the very least, one geared towards subscribers (and premiums that have bought most, if not all, content packs) and one geared towards premiums. And, it would be up to the customer as to which they want.

Subscriber CE - Greater XP tome or upgrades for lesser XP tomes (people who bought Menace CE already have account wide lessers, as do many people who just picked them up from the DDOStore), XP Stone, whatever "exclusive" pet they're going to bundle with this expansion, and a stipend of TP (in place of content packs)

Premium CE - Same as above, but with a couple of content packs in place of the TP stipend.

Best of all would be an "a-la-carte" CE, to let us combine up to X number of features as we see fit.

Of course, we're probably just going to get a "one size fits all" CE that will be passable, but not really a perfect fit for all.

[~Morgraine]

This time around, they need multiple Collector's Editions. At the very least, one [...]
Best of all would be an "a-la-carte" CE, to let us combine up to X number of features as we see fit.

Of course, we're probably just going to get a "one size fits all" CE that will be passable, but not really a perfect fit for all.

Everyone has different sizes. Some 0, 2, some 4, some 8, some Extra Wide Load... :eek: :rolleyes:

Would be nice if there is a Build Your Own Hoardition: (BYOH)

1) Option to select an inherent statistic boost to character(s)... ( $$ )
2) Mandatory to select Shadow Fall Content(s) ( $$ )
3) Option to select Epic Destiny Benefit(s) ( $$ )
4) Option to select Otto's Irresistible Box(es) ( $$$ ) <---- extra wide load?
5) Mandatory ML28 Epic Gargoyle and Harpy flying pets and cosmetic pets ($)
6) Option to select Teleport to new areas/quests cosmetic Kobold T-shirt ($)
7) Option to select Iconic Characters that start at CL15 ($$)

Subtotal: $$$
Discount based on Options selected (-XX% to -XX%) ($$$)

Total: $$$

[~NiborRis]

Probably be more like:

Cosmetic pet of some theme related to the xpack
Cosmetic helmet
Epic Destinies
Warforged Race
Druid's Deep pack
Shan-To-Kor pack
Lesser XP tome for all characters
The VIP 10% in-town movement speed

[~AnchoGremlin]

6) cosmetic kobold t-shirt ($)


omg i want this now!

[~NewName]

How about a collection of permanent gold seal clerics every few levels similar to what the start kit has now? (Say levels 3, 6, 9, 12, 15 and 18). Of course they would need to be better behaved then some of them are now. No standing in the lava field right next to the island.

Maybe even include a few other classes as well.

[My2Cents]

I think that list is comprised of things you want..... and probably want a discount pack on....I'd want a collector's edition to have collector's items. Not just desirable things already purchasable in ddo store / game.

The battle cat was the main thing that put me over the edge to spend on the MOTU expansion.

My finances are very tight - everything else I can find in game or purchase at some point if I really need it. A permanent companion is so well suited to my playing style that it would probably be the deciding factor for me again.

Would like it to be at LEAST level 25....

[TheNewSlarden]

I think they gathered enough data about high price items since last summer so I am expecting a $200 package. It's total speculation of course, but I expect to see it this time around as it seems completely consistent with their strategy of offering something for people with a lot of discretionary money.

I don't think it will compete with other store offerings so I wouldn't expect it to include +4 tomes or ottos boxes. It will include some other things instead.

[~TheMizzaroo]

I think they gathered enough data about high price items since last summer so I am expecting a $200 package. It's total speculation of course, but I expect to see it this time around as it seems completely consistent with their strategy of offering something for people with a lot of discretionary money.

I don't think it will compete with other store offerings so I wouldn't expect it to include +4 tomes or ottos boxes. It will include some other things instead.

Like a cosmetic pet fish in a bowl? Oh! I'd LOVE that!!! :D

[TheNewSlarden]

Like a cosmetic pet fish in a bowl? Oh! I'd LOVE that!!! :D

That's not Turbine's style. They would give you a cosmetic fish in a bowl with 20% stacking epic xp bonus plus underwater action.

[~Hexfax]

That's not Turbine's style. They would give you a cosmetic fish in a bowl with 20% stacking epic xp bonus plus underwater action.

Oooooh... Let's combine the cosmetic pet fish in a bowl with a cosmetic helmet! A Fishbowl helmet with a little fish swimming inside it, that granted Underwater Action. Now there's a winning combo.

As someone mentioned above, the Permanent Gold Seal Panther pushed me into buying the collector's edition. And seeing that Turbine made a Permanent Gold Seal hireling for the Starter Pack, I'd expect some sort of new Permanent Gold Seal hireling. Hopefully, it will be unique, such as non-playable race or animal.

Also, hopefully it will be a true Gold Seal hireling, unlike the Starter Pack hireling. That hireling can't be used unless you are the same level as the hireling. Very misleading. And a very bait-and-switch maneuver. Additionally, hopefully it can fit into the Hireling Folder, since the Start Pack hireling can't, while the Panther can.

[~Stormanne1]

Oooooh... Let's combine the cosmetic pet fish in a bowl with a cosmetic helmet! A Fishbowl helmet with a little fish swimming inside it, that granted Underwater Action. Now there's a winning combo.


Careful what you wish for...you'll get the fishbowl helm that if you're not in water, drowns you...This is Turbine we're talking about :p

[~NiborRis]

Careful what you wish for...you'll get the fishbowl helm that if you're not in water, drowns you...This is Turbine we're talking about :p

You forgot "...even if you're warforged".

[~redspecter23-A]

I think a set of choices would work well.

Ex pack
Choose 1: lesser tome of learning for all toons or 5 50% Xp pots.
Choose 1: new exclusive pet or 150 astral shards
Choose 1: 3 pre chosen old adventure packs or 1000 tp
Choose 1: new exclusive perma gold seal baby dragon hireling or Xp stone
Also included, 1000 tp

[~swimmingjellycube]

Based on items that squeak dropped in the dev event on lamma, I'm going to guess that you'll get in the preorder:

An owlbear hireling (similar to the panther)
Flying cat cosmetic pet (calico maybe?) kind of creepy looking

Also, probably you'll also get:
iconic heros (last time around was vet status 7 + xp stone)

[~Hexfax]

Based on items that squeak dropped in the dev event on lamma, I'm going to guess that you'll get in the preorder:

An owlbear hireling (similar to the panther)
Flying cat cosmetic pet (calico maybe?) kind of creepy looking

Also, probably you'll also get:
iconic heros (last time around was vet status 7 + xp stone)

Owlbear hireling sounds very cool. I approve.

Yeah, I expect Iconic Heroes with the Collector's Edition, but I also expect probably an XP Stone again also. Remember last time we got Epic Destinies and Vet Status 7, and the Vet Status was unlockable via favor.

Maybe even an Epic Learning Tome, since there's a cap increase and limited content.

[QuartermasterX]

Very nice guesses everyone! I think you will all be pleased with the contents of the pre-order bundles.

[~KrelarVersion2]

Very nice guesses everyone! I think you will all be pleased with the contents of the pre-order bundles.

I don't suppose we could get a hint as to when we will get to see the bundles?

[Dexraven]

Hopefully any hireling will be one per character as the Panther was, if its one per account like the starter bundle Cleric it can stay on the store shelf and collect dust.

But if it scaled to character level, that would make you some TP

[~FunnyCyde]

I love the idea of an Owlbear gold seal hireling. Would make a great replacement for the panther.

Something I'd love to have is a gem that lets you transform into a kobold for a certain period of time and is re-usable. I'd so love to have a character that runs around as a kobold all of the time (including in quests).

[Teh_Troll]

After the U14 Pre-order debacle Shadowfell I'm not sure it's possible for Turbine to cram enough P2Win into a pre-order for me to consider buying it.

I'd also prefer they DON'T have a pre-order at all. The Pre-order fro MoTU hung that deadline around their necks like a boat anchor and we got such a bug-ridden mess that's still being cleaned up. I'd rather the developers not have that pressure and get it RIGHT before it's released.

[~TheFailedlegend]

Very nice guesses everyone! I think you will all be pleased with the contents of the pre-order bundles.

All I ask is that you not include a bunch of old adventure packs, races, classes,etc. the majority of people who will buy the collector's edition already have these packs or are VIP it makes it feel like were paying for stuff we already have.

[~KrelarVersion2]

All I ask is that you not include a bunch of old adventure packs, races, classes,etc. the majority of people who will buy the collector's edition already have these packs or are VIP it makes it feel like were paying for stuff we already have.

At the very least make a way for us to give things we already have to other players.

[~Hexfax]

All I ask is that you not include a bunch of old adventure packs, races, classes,etc. the majority of people who will buy the collector's edition already have these packs or are VIP it makes it feel like were paying for stuff we already have.

I disagree with this completely. When I was VIP, I wanted a way to buy packs, races and classes so that when I stopped being VIP (for whatever reason) I could still enjoy the game without having to dump a bunch of money into the game. I thought including the packs was a great way for VIP to get a sample of the game without spending extra money as soon as VIP is lost. The same thing with new players, they gain some packs right off the back so they don't have to pay more for additional quests.

After all, you weren't losing anything with the packs inclusion, you just weren't gaining something. It would be like people who don't TR to complain that they don't want the XP stones included or people who don't like cosmetic pets to complain that cosmetic pets are included. These are all additional things that not all players want/need but give a reason for various players to get the upgraded or collector's edition, instead of the standard edition or piecemeal the contents.

[~Dyna-The-Cat]

I found out what the CE's main allure will be.....

It's a pocket plane.

When you use it on yourself or your friends, you're transported to your own private bar / party room with:

a bartender
a mail box
an autioneer
a cosmetic kit vendor
a teleporting machine (like using a teleport scroll)
a full body size wall mirror
a dance stage to show off your cosmetic kits
some couches
a fireplace
a piano...
...................

TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!!







JKING. That's my personal wish. :3

Albeit, having a readily accessible teleporter would be a god-send to many classes not wizard. :D

Also, the portable dressing room might be good for encouraging people to buy cosmetic kits.

[~Gaeryus]

Due to the crappy new font they use on this forums, I read "Shadowfail Conspiracy" and I thought it was a troll thread for the new update.

Now, I just lost interest.

Carry on.



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[Silverleafeon]

Very nice guesses everyone! I think you will all be pleased with the contents of the pre-order bundles.

Woot, looking forward to that.

[~MarkGrismer]

After the U14 Pre-order debacle Shadowfell I'm not sure it's possible for Turbine to cram enough P2Win into a pre-order for me to consider buying it.

I'd also prefer they DON'T have a pre-order at all. The Pre-order fro MoTU hung that deadline around their necks like a boat anchor and we got such a bug-ridden mess that's still being cleaned up. I'd rather the developers not have that pressure and get it RIGHT before it's released.

I think they might have stopped cleaning it up, also <string table error: tableID="0x00000" errorID="0x00000">

[AzB]

Albeit, having a readily accessible teleporter would be a god-send to many classes not wizard. :D



FWIW, I only have one wizard toon, but nearly all my toons teleport whenever they want. Teleport scrolls are easily purchased and require only a minor investment in UMD. ;)

[AlteredState]

FWIW, I only have one wizard toon, but nearly all my toons teleport whenever they want. Teleport scrolls are easily purchased and require only a minor investment in UMD. ;)

To be fair not all classes get enough skill points to get UMD, this will be especially true if they go forth with their changes to how the spell power and skill point investment go.

[Uska]

Probably be more like:

Cosmetic pet of some theme related to the xpack
Cosmetic helmet
Epic Destinies
Warforged Race
Druid's Deep pack
Shan-To-Kor pack
Lesser XP tome for all characters
The VIP 10% in-town movement speed


While it isn't much the VIP speed should only be gotten by being VIP

[Cauthey_No_CCInfo]

If they want to sell lots of expansions at premium pricing, they should run something like this...



Platinum Expansion Pack package:
-------------------------------


Access to the old DDO Forums, the end.

[SirShen]

Based on items that squeak dropped in the dev event on lamma, I'm going to guess that you'll get in the preorder:

An owlbear hireling (similar to the panther)
Flying cat cosmetic pet (calico maybe?) kind of creepy looking

Also, probably you'll also get:
iconic heros (last time around was vet status 7 + xp stone)

This is what we will get.

Flying Cat pet.
Owlbear hireling (level 17)
Iconic heros.
A wizard Hat (Cosmetic helmet)

XP Stone.

Also we will get Epic tomes of learning - lesser and greater. Giving us 50% (greater) and 20% (lesser) for all epic quests.

[Dorian]

This is what we will get.

Flying Cat pet.
Owlbear hireling (level 17)
Iconic heros.
A wizard Hat (Cosmetic helmet)

XP Stone.

Also we will get Epic tomes of learning - lesser and greater. Giving us 50% (greater) and 20% (lesser) for all epic quests.

I sure hope this is NOT what we are getting.

Why a level 17 hireling? We need end game stuff.

[SisAmethyst]

I sure hope this is NOT what we are getting.

Why a level 17 hireling? We need end game stuff.

So that the lvl 15 iconic character can summon it :D


At the very least make a way for us to give things we already have to other players.

That is indeed an interesting point, something like a permanent guest pass for a pack if you already have it :)

[dopey69]

if I look to the left of these creepy grey on grey forums

I would say a visible cloak comes to mind ............I don't know why just does

would take a lot more than that for me to jump on board im afraid

a blue line perma hireling would be nice perhaps a white Bengal tiger

[~Grumpycat]

Collector's edition should only have one thing... EVERYTHING FIXED!

[Cauthey_No_CCInfo]

Collector's Edition should include:

* Elvish Cat cosmetic pet.


:D

[Grosbeak07]

Collector's Edition should include:

* Elvish Cat cosmetic pet.


:D

For a Collectors edition I want a:

Champion Elvish Cat cosmetic pet.

[debo]

Collector's edition should only have one thing... EVERYTHING FIXED!


Collector's Edition should have only one thing, you are correct, and that is a live dev with a pull string on it. When string is pulled it will go through random pre-recorded words. Them being:

Your my favorite!
Can have milk?
DDO Needs a Vault
Ugh Oh I'm broke
Does not Compute

[QuartermasterX]

All I ask is that you not include a bunch of old adventure packs, races, classes,etc. the majority of people who will buy the collector's edition already have these packs or are VIP it makes it feel like were paying for stuff we already have.

I absolutely agree with you. We are not doing that this time around.

[Teh_Troll]

DDO Needs a Vault



Couldn't agree more. I'd pay for more storage in a heartbeat, include 20 more slots of bank-space in that pre-order and you might sell me.

[UurlockYgmeov]

What do you guys think should be in the next expansion collector's edition?

I was thinking

1 +4 supreme tome ability
1 otto's irresistable box
1 +2 tome of fate
1 greater tome of learning
5 sovereign I experience elixirs

Don't forget the +3 supreme ability tome (including UMD) and the +2 tome of damage and +2 tome of battle skill.

[SweetDude]

I have a question: is turbine going to charge for this expansion? Isn't it free for vips????

[Krelar]

I have a question: is turbine going to charge for this expansion? Isn't it free for vips????

Everyone pays, just like last time.

[Dorian]

All I ask is that you not include a bunch of old adventure packs, races, classes,etc. the majority of people who will buy the collector's edition already have these packs or are VIP it makes it feel like were paying for stuff we already have.

Or include a bunch of stuff that is not viable for end game. (A level 17 Owl is not worth buying)

Give us a level 28 gold seal hireling.

[DemonStorm333]

I absolutely agree with you. We are not doing that this time around.



**** I really was hopin you would do it this time around was a nice little thing and being vip my self I rather liked it so now if I ever run into position were I can no longer keep my vip I always have axcess to the content were is if you don't offer old packs I will not be able to run it till I obtain ddo points. atleast tell me your going to keep adding adventure packs to the ddo market like u did with the starter pack

[SweetDude]

I think it should be free to VIPS. C'mon, we "buy" the game every month ¬¬.
Or at least they should create a bundle that includes 3 months of VIP subscrition. That would be great. Otherwise, I may wait until it goes to DDO STORE and them buy it with my TPs.

[barecm]

Keep in mind there is no cost for Turbine to give us virtual products. Turbine points, Otto's Boxes, Tomes, etc... have zero cost to Turbine at this point. They have already been developed and put into the game. At this point, they are just gaining 100% revenue on these items we purchase. The costs have already been realized for the development of these items. The expansion pack is where they are trying to get as much cash for to pay for it. So, if it means loading up the offering with additional items, it really doesn't matter to Turbine since there is zero cost for those items. If they were smart, they would put a few ottos boxes and +3 or 4 supreme tomes in there to guarantee a few more sales than they would have otherwise. Plus, when the offering does not hit the expectations mark, it will sting a little less for those who purchases it since they also got a healthy amount of extras included that would normally cost a bunch of points.

[burningwind]

here is my wish list:

1) awesome cosmic armor.. with thew new cosmic system they will stick around..
2) a perm gold seal healer.. say.. level 25 or higher..(i really want a hire that level with player.. but i guess thats too much to ask)
3) tome of fate +2 for every character
4) cosmic pet
5) perm teleport clickie - able to teleport to all places include eveningstar...(so new iconic blade forge can get access to faerun)

[Nestroy]

I absolutely agree with you. We are not doing that this time around.

Any news on what to expect and when?

I had been an early adopter on the Menace of the Underdark expansion. I will be an early adopter on the new expansion as well. But I am really looking forward on hearing which bundles will be made available when, at which prices and containing which content?

Thank you in advance on any further details.

[Dexraven]

Account augment bag,

key thing- collects augments

carried by all toons on server, all have access to it without having to move it around.

in fact, make a version of all bags that do this, I'd pay, and i already have huge bags on most toons.

no more "which toon has that ESOS shard" (I wish I had that problem)

[SlowDM]

Being a new-ish player when Motu expansion came out. I did much umm-ing and arr-ing about getting it. Finally buying the top package with the proviso I was going to cancel my vip for a short while(I never did).
I was/am very happy with the extra's i got xp tomes, panther. I love FR expansion quests ed's an all.
So what do i want this time or more importantly what will make me spend

No cosmetic pets or as many people like the daft things a decent other choice.

A MUST is something like the panther but higher level like 25.

What i'd really like is some single level xp tomes(1 only per character per life would be acceptable). Mainly so i don't need to grind lev 19 or to catch up with guildies/groups.

Some character cosmetic things(armour kit, hair etc). Maybe 1 free per level/s I can build my character to my taste, I want it therefore to look different.

Most importantly take your time and get it right, no-one wants so many problems this time.

[DogMania]

Personaly I do not want to see anything in the package that is currently available, what would be nice would be a upgrade tome of learning say another 5% to lesser and 10% to greater

[MartinusWyllt]

Keep in mind there is no cost for Turbine to give us virtual products. Turbine points, Otto's Boxes, Tomes, etc... have zero cost to Turbine at this point. ...

Except for ongoing overhead, of course.

[burningwind]

Personaly I do not want to see anything in the package that is currently available, what would be nice would be a upgrade tome of learning say another 5% to lesser and 10% to greater

i agree with you totally.. not everyone want otto's box(i don't).. not everyone lacking exp tome upgrade or tome of fate.. would be nice if they could implement a gold seal hire that level with you.. so they goes range from 1 to 28~~ if they do this.. ill surely buy it, even it being the only thing include in this pack.

[THAC0]

The battle cat was the main thing that put me over the edge to spend on the MOTU expansion.

My finances are very tight - everything else I can find in game or purchase at some point if I really need it. A permanent companion is so well suited to my playing style that it would probably be the deciding factor for me again.

Would like it to be at LEAST level 25....

If I could bring out the Battle Cat AND this new perm gold seal char/creature.... THAT would be nice.

Just say'n...

But I would just like to see some plans...or potentials from the Devs. Nothing on this since the letter....

T.

[MartinusWyllt]

If I could bring out the Battle Cat AND this new perm gold seal char/creature.... THAT would be nice.

Just say'n...

But I would just like to see some plans...or potentials from the Devs. Nothing on this since the letter....

T.

You can pop both the panther and the owlbear. I don't know if you can pop both owlbears, but I suspect you can.

[Gkar]

You can pop both the panther and the owlbear. I don't know if you can pop both owlbears, but I suspect you can.

Yeah, all 3 are gold seal hirelings so they can be out at the same time.

[SlowDM]

Can ya , can ya , can ya

Better concentrate on my druid then. Wolf pet , summoned creature, panther, young owlbear, adult owlbear.

Nearly wetting myself with excitement

[Deadlock]

Can ya , can ya , can ya

Better concentrate on my druid then. Wolf pet , summoned creature, panther, young owlbear, adult owlbear.

Nearly wetting myself with excitement

Yip, you can.

https://imageshack.us/a/img833/6929/whohasthebiggestpaws.jpg

Don't expect the level 17 version to survive more than a minute in any content where you have the level 25 version out though :)

But they do work for pulling levers I suppose.