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Stylez777
03-23-2013, 11:51 AM
All of a sudden I have to press a key 3 or 4 times for it to actually cast a spell off my hotbar. It was never like this before, is this something else that is broken now and on the doomed "to be fixed" list??

It really sucks when you have a chain of spells set up and you have to break your chain hitting the same key 4 times for the spell to cast (yes the spell is off timer.) What gives?

Nickademus42
03-23-2013, 05:07 PM
Try a different keyboard and see if that fixes things. Might just be buttons and/or the board going out.

Qezuzu
03-23-2013, 06:16 PM
Probably lag.

Gremmlynn
03-23-2013, 07:43 PM
Probably lag.Likely. I get this from using a less that awesome computer, generally from hitting hotkeys for tacticals. The UI icon will flash but wont go into cooldown, so I know it isn't the keyboard. I also get false starts from summoning hirelings ans short false resets on Momentum Swing after Cleaves.

As I haven't seen these issues come up here, I figure the problem is on my end.

peng
03-23-2013, 08:12 PM
Recently when trying to enter undead form on my pm, I will occasionally get the animation, the 1 min cool down, and spend the 100 sp without actually entering form. I once had to try 3 to times (taking 3 minutes and 300 sp) to become a lich.

benneburg
03-23-2013, 08:18 PM
I've had horrible keyboard response since 17.1, not only hotbars but everything bound to my keyboard. Blocking, tumbling, moving and jumping, targeting, using and so on, not listing every single keyboard bind.
Have tried with my old keyboard and it's the same, no problems with any other software.
Been happening all over the place, on all my characters, so much I've already started to adept.


benne^

MJtheKing
03-23-2013, 08:31 PM
Try hitting ctrl-(whatever # hotbar you want). A few times i accidentally hit ctrl and it switches to that number hotbar.
For example, instead of selecting the #1 spot on your #1 hotbar you may be using #1 spot on your #6 hotbar.

FrancisP.Fancypants
03-23-2013, 08:33 PM
Same here since the patch. Spells, melee actions, and gear swaps often don't trigger on the first click. I TR'd my wizard into a melee build a couple of days ago, and I gave up trying to use trip after an hour. Between the tiny physical window, the nebulous mob positioning, the lag, and the hotbar not working well, it's next to impossible to use.

I actually wondered if there was some intended tweak to help with UMD lag, which I haven't noticed as much- possibly because by the time I've managed to swap items, it's been five seconds anyway.

Wanesa
03-23-2013, 08:37 PM
Recently when trying to enter undead form on my pm, I will occasionally get the animation, the 1 min cool down, and spend the 100 sp without actually entering form. I once had to try 3 to times (taking 3 minutes and 300 sp) to become a lich.

similar issue with bottomless flask from CC. hit button, animation, cooldown but no Heal.

Singular
03-23-2013, 08:42 PM
Yeah, I'm getting the same problem.

J1NG
03-23-2013, 08:54 PM
Same here. The issue only started since the patch (17.1). Was not there prior, so I'm going to assume it's patch related rather than a local system issue.

J1NG

Nickademus42
03-23-2013, 10:54 PM
Same here since the patch. Spells, melee actions, and gear swaps often don't trigger on the first click. I TR'd my wizard into a melee build a couple of days ago, and I gave up trying to use trip after an hour.

Not trying to discredit your statement, but I TR'd into a fighter when U17 came out. I have sunder, trip and stunning blow on my main hotbar and use them every battle that they aren't all on cooldown. I have never noticed an instance of these abilities not working (with the exception of when I'm tripped/knocked back during the use).

I have had the occasionally random gear swap or clickie not happen despite the hotbar icon going on cooldown. But I've had that happen from time to time since before U5. I just chalk it up to the game/server trying to do something while I'm spamming my buff clickies (which I am quite guilty of).

Is this behavior new or noticeably different? Doesn't seem so to me. Still, I've noticed it on my non-melee actions.

Menace13
03-23-2013, 11:11 PM
Same here. Spells, Boosts, Clickies, Tactics.

Stylez777
03-24-2013, 12:39 AM
I know it is not the keyboard. My keyboard works perfectly fine.

It has nothing to do with lag because i can move or melee attack or jump or do anything else but i have to spam that key on the hot bar for the spell to fire off. It's not every single spell but it's enough to break up chains and lower DPS while i sit there having to hit the same key 2-6 times for it to cast a spell.

It's not my PC, cause frankly my PC is powerful enough to run a NASA space mission.

It's something turbine broke during the patch. I have had talks with many people in game about this and they too have the same issues. Healers having to hit the same button 7 times to get their heal to go off, spellcasters etc. Sick and tired of things being introduced only to break other game mechanics that take forever to be fixed! You broke Wail, you still can't fix the issues with negative AC penalty when rage wears off on barbarians and a whole host of other issues you have yet to fix...AHHHH but yes we MUST get up our shard exchange so they can spend more money.

silence383
03-24-2013, 12:40 AM
Welcome to DDO :)

AzB
03-24-2013, 08:53 AM
Recently when trying to enter undead form on my pm, I will occasionally get the animation, the 1 min cool down, and spend the 100 sp without actually entering form. I once had to try 3 to times (taking 3 minutes and 300 sp) to become a lich.

My pm has done that occasionally for a long time. Not patch 17.1 related. (Except of course for vampire, where once you enter form you stay in form until you relog)

Since 17.1 I have noticed that wands that have less than 100% chance of working sometimes stop working in the middle of a quest. For example, the cacophonic verge; 95% chance of success, works great. All of the sudden it stops working. I don't mean it fails a lot, it doesn't work at all. If I have skills boost, pressing it gives the correct bump, 105% success in this case,, and it works fine.

And then sometimes I get no animation, no failure message, no sound effects, and then suddenly 3 seconds later, those barrels I was trying to break just seem to shatter on thier own. Highly embarrassing in Undermine when you end up killing a teammate that was nowhere neqr the barrels when you activated the wand.

bonscott87
03-24-2013, 09:13 AM
I have seen this too since the patch. Annoying as heck when a well time fireball would be nice but it won't go off until you press the key 3 or 4 times.

phillymiket
03-24-2013, 09:34 AM
me too also as well

I never have lag unless it's some communal thing where everyone seems to have lag (certain chests - server crashes etc)

But since the update there has been stuff.

Mostly very brief stuttering and micro-rubberbanding and clicks not taking.

Yesterday I noticed, when an arcane in the party would cast a big damage dealer, I would stutter for a second in a way that became very predictable everytime many mobs were killed.

This, and similar stuff, seems to happen a lot when it rarely happened before.

Switching between items also seems to not work as well. I find myself beating mobs with heal scrolls more then usual.

Though I admit I do this so often I'm thinking of making a Kensai and taking scroll as my weapon specialty; so it could be me on that one.
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levesque2004
03-24-2013, 11:31 AM
yeah, it's been bad. very annoying having to click or type multiple times to get something done. but that's turbine for ya. fix one thing, break something else.

please, if you haven't already, bug report it. the more bug reports on an issue they get, the higher up on their list the bug goes.

oweieie
03-24-2013, 11:38 AM
Happened yesterday with one macro bar, everything else was working, moved the bar and it worked again.

FrancisP.Fancypants
03-24-2013, 05:05 PM
Not trying to discredit your statement, but I TR'd into a fighter when U17 came out. I have sunder, trip and stunning blow on my main hotbar and use them every battle that they aren't all on cooldown. I have never noticed an instance of these abilities not working (with the exception of when I'm tripped/knocked back during the use).

I have had the occasionally random gear swap or clickie not happen despite the hotbar icon going on cooldown. But I've had that happen from time to time since before U5. I just chalk it up to the game/server trying to do something while I'm spamming my buff clickies (which I am quite guilty of).

Is this behavior new or noticeably different? Doesn't seem so to me. Still, I've noticed it on my non-melee actions.

Yes- it's recent, and we're not talking about the cooldown happening without the action. We're talking about the actual mouse click or hotkey press not triggering the the thing at all. As in I clicked trip and it didn't register. No cooldown, no action, nothing.

Everything seems to behave more sluggishly since the patch, so it could concievably be a lag issue (but since that's not new and doesn't bring up anything but the usual cheerleading squad instead of any dev response, there's a better chance of getting the proper attention by bug reporting this). And interestingly, it's not everything. I didn't notice any difference with monk attacks or pots, for instance.

redoubt
03-24-2013, 10:59 PM
In update 17.2, Turbine is going to sell hotbar speed up tokens on the ASAH.

One token per bar allows you to click only twice before the action takes affect.

For three tokens per bar, you can have actions take effect on the first click.

These tokens cost 25 Astral Shards each and last 6 hours each.

Please see the known issues thread regarding hot bars:

Hotbars are know to no longer respond to mouse clicks and keypresses when not associated with purchase hotbar tokens. They seem to have broken when we added the ASAH and AS hotbar token mechanism. We are researching a fix, but will not roll the system back because we are making a ton of money now that we can force you to buy some shards just to make the game work. Good luck and see you in game!

Stylez777
03-26-2013, 08:36 AM
I have sent bug reports on this issue.

Mainly I have seen this affecting casters mostly but some melee toons experience it also. Everyone having this issue should drop bug reports until they are sick of getting them. Maybe just maybe then something might get fixed

FrancisP.Fancypants
03-26-2013, 11:29 AM
I have sent bug reports on this issue.

Mainly I have seen this affecting casters mostly but some melee toons experience it also. Everyone having this issue should drop bug reports until they are sick of getting them. Maybe just maybe then something might get fixed

Never lose your optimism. I sent one out of frustration, but I'm not gonna do unpaid QA in my spare time.

Sonos
03-26-2013, 11:37 AM
I noticed this phenomena last night in eGH adventure area. My stunning fist is #1 and I found myself pressing it and then thinking it failed(with a 70 DC?!?!?) but then not seeing any cooldown, thus prompting me to hit it again. This happened enough for me to notice a difference.

Impaqt
03-26-2013, 11:52 AM
I have noticed my Cleave and great cleave on my recent TR is less responsive than it used to be. Have to hit my shortcuts several times sometimes. Not fun.

Chauncey1
03-26-2013, 12:47 PM
Same here. Spells, Boosts, Clickies, Tactics.

Yup, been getting that as well.

bigolbear
03-26-2013, 01:09 PM
This is caused by loss. note LOSS - not LAG, they are different.

Possible causes include:

1. slow pc
2. bad isp (packet throttling)
3. problem along the route - may be intermittant.
4. busy ports on your pc because of other apps using them - eg bit torrent.
5. turbine servers.

make sure to check points 1 to 4... but its probably point 5.

SickCat
03-26-2013, 01:21 PM
Yea, this is absolutely a problem with the game (client, server, communication between the two...who knows). I have this happen constantly when I try and reconstruct myself with the spell (most recently), and I've now got it in muscle memory to hit EVERY SINGLE BUTTON at least 3 times or there's a 1 in 2 chance nothing will happen and a 1 in 4 chance nothing will happen AND the ability will go on cooldown anyway.

It's been said in this thread before...welcome to DDO.

EDIT: Let it be known, that I don't have this problem in any other application (game or otherwise) that I run. I bounce into at least 4 other higher end MMO's (Rift, SWtoR, Tera...I guess SimCity5 can be put in this list) routinely and none of them expect me to hit any key more than once to affect the desired result. Moreover, sometimes, if I "DDO spam" an ability, something bad happens...double cast, equip the wrong thing, and die...etc. At this point, the only thing I can do anymore while playing DDO is: /lesigh.

IronClan
03-26-2013, 01:58 PM
I hope every one of you bug reports this, go in game and do it now. anything they can do to make the game more responsive and fluid to play is something I'm on board with. I've experienced all the things people are talking about here, and most of them are not new.

FWIW I've noticed many different stubborn hot key behaviors, having a FvS AA that fires off SLA's and heals makes delays and untaken key commands all the more obvious, long before this update there have been instances where a hotkey or click on an icon doesn't register. Even when sometimes the icon highlights and is not on cooldown. I suspect it's related to the age old "drink a pot while doing something and the pot gets used up but you don't get the effect" bug.

Add to that the incredibly poor UI feedback in DDO and it's an area that could stand a lot of improvement. For example: click someones healthbar and the tiny highlight effect is so subtle you often can't tell if your mouseclick worked, so you end up healing someone who didn't need it, then you click again and hit the NEXT healing spell (cause the first one is on cool down) but that just makes the icon flash and no spell is actually cast, and they die.

Happens surprisingly often. I have all my spells hotkey assigned, I have to balance keyboard use with mouse use so I use the mouse to select healthbars instead of the F-keys otherwise I wouldn't have enough keys even with multiple modifier keys set up.

I see a clicked icon highlight but not fire roughly 1 in 20 spells.. I think DDO just disregards key inputs after a few are in the buffer on the server. Sometimes the cooldown starts without the spell being cast, but often it just highlights the icon without the spell going off. And no these are not interrupts, the FvS has most spells quickened, because I enjoy how it adds to the fluidity and control of the game (and mostly use SLA's so the quicken is free anyway)