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Phaeton_Seraph
03-20-2013, 01:31 AM
So far, I've heard they drop in chests and gold piles. Where else do they drop?

Do they drop from breakables?


Outside of GH, where are the best places to farm them? Or would any opinions really just be superstitions?

Barhai
03-20-2013, 01:49 AM
Haven't seen any from breakables.
Also seems that a augment of level x only drop in chest of level x+4

Phaeton_Seraph
03-20-2013, 01:54 AM
Haven't seen any from breakables.
Also seems that a augment of level x only drop in chest of level x+4
Augments drop 4 ML below the quest level?

silence383
03-20-2013, 01:58 AM
I ran epic snitch on my pally tonight superior flame dropped...which i bought one last night...I was suprised but annoyed at the same time just out of the blue.

It does go by level of quest but..Superiors from wiki says 1 percent..and lower level around 5 percent.
It is like everything you get them when you do not need them..not when your looking for them

Phoenix-daBard
03-20-2013, 02:04 AM
I pulled a ML4 Topaz shard in the last quest of Tangleroot (level 7).

I pulled a ML4 Ruby shard in a rare chest in the 3BC wilderness (level 5).

No loot boosts running at the time.

Phaeton_Seraph
03-20-2013, 03:35 AM
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I guess it's going to be like most random loot then. Random-ish. :rolleyes:

fco-karatekid
03-20-2013, 08:24 AM
Augments drop 4 ML below the quest level?

On my new tr, I was specifically watching for when I saw them start dropping... It was in the Depths chain and above. Kinda surprised me, 'cause I was thinking they'd start in Irestone.

Doesn't answer the question on farming, of course.

Matuse
03-20-2013, 09:26 AM
Also seems that a augment of level x only drop in chest of level x+4

No. I got a ML:8 Sapphire of PRR, and that was running a level 6 quest on elite. I don't recall which specific chest it was, but certainly not a level 12 one.

Bogenbroom
03-20-2013, 09:47 AM
I have seen them drop at a rate in line with what devs have said, about 5%. If feels a lot less, but if I think hard about it, yeah, 1 in 20 chests is about right.

Barhai
03-20-2013, 10:38 AM
No. I got a ML:8 Sapphire of PRR, and that was running a level 6 quest on elite. I don't recall which specific chest it was, but certainly not a level 12 one.

Haven't tested in low level chest, but so far only seen L24 augment in L28+ chests, L20 augment in chest L24 and above. Only seen L16 augment in chest L20-22.

FestusHood
03-20-2013, 10:47 AM
I pulled a sapphire of heavy fortification from a chest in elite bounty hunter. One of the first chests i opened after the augments were put in. I've pulled striding 25% somewhere, dont remember where. Lots of the low level ones, which i don't need so i get rid of.

My question is about the deathblock augment. As far as i can see, this is the only augment that can't be gotten from any vendors. Not the collectors, not the epic token guy. I've never seen one on the auction house. Do these exist?

mowomp
03-20-2013, 11:02 AM
I've pulled 1 16ish aug and 1 20ish aug from EH Tor piles of gold - was surprised to see that in there

apaurin
03-20-2013, 02:21 PM
My question is about the deathblock augment. As far as i can see, this is the only augment that can't be gotten from any vendors. Not the collectors, not the epic token guy. I've never seen one on the auction house. Do these exist?

Yes they do, I pulled one from Raiding the Giants Vault few days ago. Also saw one on AH for some ridiculous price 750k I believe it was. I actually have pretty good luck with augment drops, I already pulled various +6 stats and Good Luck +2.

bartharok
03-20-2013, 04:29 PM
Pulled a level 4 ruby in waterworks.

KongColeus
03-20-2013, 04:50 PM
I have been pulling augment crystals in random chests since they came out. I have never pulled one from a breakable, that is, when I do happen to hit breakables.

As far as I am concerned, it is completely random on where they will appear.

Nickademus42
03-20-2013, 07:45 PM
Also seems that a augment of level x only drop in chest of level x+4


Haven't tested in low level chest, but so far only seen L24 augment in L28+ chests, L20 augment in chest L24 and above. Only seen L16 augment in chest L20-22.

Just got a ss of a lvl 12 augment from Tomb of the Blighted end chest (lvl 13 quest on elite). It may be more probable to get an augment of a lower level than the chest, but it doesn't seem to be the standard. I'd say only 30% of mine were 4 levels lower.

Viconiax
03-20-2013, 08:01 PM
Pulled +35 hp aug from EH FoT

And 2 +30% striding from ee pop, and +6 protection aug from ee cabal.

And...+6 wis aug in ee tor (blue dragon room)

Phaeton_Seraph
03-20-2013, 11:57 PM
I have been pulling augment crystals in random chests since they came out. I have never pulled one from a breakable, that is, when I do happen to hit breakables.

As far as I am concerned, it is completely random on where they will appear.

Well, I will admit that I had an agenda for asking about breakables. I've noticed breakables dropping a lot more gems, shards and items than previous.

Pretty much with the same patch/update that stops the (wonderful) tons of gems from dropping in chests.

I was wondering if augments were part of the gem part of loot tables and the increase in gems in chests was related to the augments. As too many people whined about the gems (which were making me rich, BTW), they had to "fix" the chests and decided to make the breakables drop more to keep the chances of getting augments up.

Of course, they may have fixed it for reasons completely unrelated to user input, and that would not surprise me at all.

Anyway, not a single response saying anyone got one from a breakable, so I guest that kills my hare-brained theory of the day.

Matuse
03-21-2013, 12:12 AM
In theory, breakables should drop augments. They drop everything else. I got a +3 -> +4 Upgrade tome out of one. It's just that the rate of drops for items (as opposed to gems, coin, and trash potions) is so low, and the drop rate for augments is so much lower than that...you're just not very likely to see this very often.

You could try going to an area with a lot of accessible breakables like Crucible and spend an hour re-entering and re-smashing to see if you get luck with anything.

FestusHood
03-21-2013, 12:28 AM
I still get gems just as often as i did before the patch, i just don't get as many of them. Before update 17 in most chests i didn't get any gems at all. Now pretty much every chest has one or two gems in it. I'm guessing augments are a special extra kind of thing that shows up now and then. When i've gotten them, i've still gotten other items too. I'm not sure augments are taking the place of other loot, at least in chests. But i haven't studied it enough to feel certain of that.

Phaeton_Seraph
03-21-2013, 03:16 AM
In theory, breakables should drop augments. They drop everything else. I got a +3 -> +4 Upgrade tome out of one. It's just that the rate of drops for items (as opposed to gems, coin, and trash potions) is so low, and the drop rate for augments is so much lower than that...you're just not very likely to see this very often.

You could try going to an area with a lot of accessible breakables like Crucible and spend an hour re-entering and re-smashing to see if you get luck with anything.

Hmm... hiding in Plain Sight would be faster. Interesting idea.



@ Festushood

I could be wrong. But I do think there are both more items and gems dropping from breakables. Pots seems the same to me though.


That distinctive "clang" as a weapon falls or "chunk" as armour falls really catches my ear in general. Or maybe they just changed the audio files, LOL

cru121
03-21-2013, 03:50 AM
I have "farmed" the breakables in EE Detour (15 breakables at the beginning: 9 in house, 6 outside). It was neither worthwhile nor fun. This was before U17.1.

Here are my notes if someone cares. One line = one run = 15 breakables. First run on epic normal, rest EE. No loot bonus. Took 1 or 2 hours.

+14ML23 weapon, gem (normal)
2 csw pot, +13ML24 gloves (elite)
-
ruby, 2xplat,
2xplat, 1potres30cold,
3xplat, 3rescold30
plat
-
gems,
-
2xplat
-
plat, gem, 4resacid30, +15ml24 weapon,
plat, +15ml24weapon, gemsss
9blindpots, gem
2potshieldfaith5, +12ML23 ring, plat
2barkskin5, plat
plat, gem
fire30, 2protcold,
plat, 2xgems,
+15w
plat, +15armor
plat
gem
gem, plat
2xgem, 2protacid, plat
2blindpot
-
4csw, gems
-
plat, 2cold30, 3acid30
-
plat
gems
-
plat
gem, 7poisonpot
gem, 2elec30, plat
gems, gem
gem plat
2xplat, gem
gem,
gems, +15a
2xplat
gems
-
plat, +14belt
gems, plat, 6 poisonpots
plat, +16shield
plat, gem, +15a
2xgem, 3csw, 4haste
fire30, plat
barkskin, 2rage
+
2xplat,
gem plat
2curse, gems
-
2xplat acid30
barkskin
gem, 10blind, 3xplat
gems, 2xplat
+13cloak (ml24)

Phaeton_Seraph
03-21-2013, 03:09 PM
Thanks for all the replies.


Here's another question about breakables:
Are their drop rates and loot affected by the difficulty setting? Is Elite better than Casual as for chests?
Or is it more random?

Matuse
03-21-2013, 03:11 PM
Breakable drops are definitely influenced by dungeon level. I don't know if they are changed by loot gems, but loot bonus days should boost it.

brian14
03-21-2013, 03:19 PM
Easily best item I ever got from a breakable:

+1 Night's Grasp shortbow of Greater Aberration Bane, ML 10.

Found it in Crucible on Normal.

redspecter23
03-21-2013, 03:28 PM
I know that the highest tier augments start dropping in chests of the same level required to start dropping +4 tomes and +4-5 upgrades (loot level 27). I'm not certain of the exact chest level thresholds for lower tiers, but I'd like to assume that augment tiers are directly tied into chest level. If someone that has done more testing can chime in with the loot level range required to pull a deathblock augment, that would be very helpful. I'm guessing that to be the most valuable currently with some others like striding 30% having some good value as well.

Lyria
03-21-2013, 03:37 PM
Haven't tested in low level chest, but so far only seen L24 augment in L28+ chests, L20 augment in chest L24 and above. Only seen L16 augment in chest L20-22.

I got a 16th level augment last night in an elite run of Coalescence Chamber (18th level quest).

Antiguo
03-21-2013, 03:39 PM
I got a 16th level augment last night in an elite run of Coalescence Chamber (18th level quest).

Was the +2 to loot level active?

Lyria
03-21-2013, 06:26 PM
Was the +2 to loot level active?

Unless it was a global one, I don't think so. I was with a group running it, so they might have been using one or something, but nobody had said anything about it, and it wasn't "let X open the chests".

Antiguo
03-21-2013, 06:56 PM
Unless it was a global one, I don't think so. I was with a group running it, so they might have been using one or something, but nobody had said anything about it, and it wasn't "let X open the chests".

It is a global one, we have a +2 loot level bonus until the 24th.

Aashrym
03-21-2013, 07:09 PM
Augments also appear in the challenges chests we receive in our inventory. Not sure about the drop rate.

Lyria
03-21-2013, 07:31 PM
It is a global one, we have a +2 loot level bonus until the 24th.

Huh! Well okay then. I didn't notice that. :) None of the OTHER loot I've gotten in the last couple days has been upscaled...it's all been about the same as I usually get for quests. Heck, a couple of them were giving me LOWER quality loot (like ml-4 stuff in an 8th level quest on elite, etc).

Gremmlynn
03-21-2013, 10:43 PM
Haven't seen any from breakables.
Also seems that a augment of level x only drop in chest of level x+4It likely just seems this way because what would be a drop from say ML8 to ML 7 for other items drops all the way to ML4 for augments due to the spacing they have in their MLs.

Singular
03-21-2013, 11:32 PM
I pulled a sapphire of heavy fortification from a chest in elite bounty hunter. One of the first chests i opened after the augments were put in. I've pulled striding 25% somewhere, dont remember where. Lots of the low level ones, which i don't need so i get rid of.

My question is about the deathblock augment. As far as i can see, this is the only augment that can't be gotten from any vendors. Not the collectors, not the epic token guy. I've never seen one on the auction house. Do these exist?

Yeah, I bought mine from the AH. They're on the AH infrequently, though I have seen up to 3 once.

goodspeed
03-22-2013, 02:46 AM
I usually find the goofy things in epic chests. Though I have pulled alot from gold piles. Then I list em out and sell em for 20 or 80 grand. The more worth while ones to even bother slotting of course go for more. But people buy the crappy ones to so eh.

FestusHood
03-22-2013, 02:59 AM
If people are actually interested in breakables, go and run the mansion challenges in house c. You don't have to farm anything, as breaking everything is part of the mechanic. Lots of breakables in there. Best i've gotten is a plus 2 to plus 3 upgrade tome. Also get lots of random gen items. Mostly though, i have gathered a fairly large supply of resist 30 pots, which drop frequently in there, and usually in stacks of 3-5.

brian14
03-26-2013, 12:18 PM
Two days ago I got Sapphire of Heavy Fortification (ML 8) from Bargain of Blood end chest on hard. Had not yet decided whether to sell it or keep it.

sk3l3t0r
03-26-2013, 01:35 PM
Pulled a level 4 ruby in waterworks.

in waterworks chain on hard I pulled a +2 proof against poison augment and a waterbreathing augment