Avoid All Loot Drama

[gphysalis]

Suggested method for avoiding most loot drama.

Loot rule:
Everyone pulls all items that drop for them in a chest.

[Kennyburns]

Suggested method for avoiding most loot drama.

Loot rule:
Everyone pulls all items that drop for them in a chest.

My Loot being mine? Nice!
Your loot not being Mine?
Terrible Idea :)

[porq]

Communicating your intentions before the box of shinies is opened, or restrictions communicated before item is put to roll.

That usually helps

[Vint]

My rule is do what you want with your loot.

Just remember that even if you do the "right thing" with your loot, people will be mad at you and smear your name or guild. I am not saying that I agree with this, but it happens all the time.

[jortann]

Suggested method for avoiding most loot drama.

Loot rule:
Everyone pulls all items that drop for them in a chest.

Wait, why do you get to pull the loot if it falls in your name... sounds shady to me...

[1Soulless1]

When people start getting demanding and feel entitled to MY loot I just tell them "If you can get it out of the chest you can have it, let me know how that works out for you."

[gphysalis]

When people start getting demanding and feel entitled to MY loot I just tell them "If you can get it out of the chest you can have it, let me know how that works out for you."

Nice,
I'll have to remember that one.

[kierg10]

How to really avoid loot drama: Never click a chest when in a group ever.

[Eighnuss]

buy everyone's cooperation

[Memnir]

How to avoid Loot Drama:

Accept that what drops without your name on it is not yours.

[Hendrik]

Suggested method for avoiding most loot drama.

Loot rule:
Everyone pulls all items that drop for them in a chest.

My rule is better!

Send it all to ME!

:p

[Singular]

I've only run into loot issues once. I think the player was a young boy who thought that since he had the star he was entitled to his choice of the loot. I just squelched him for the duration of the quest, then dropped group - as did another adult player (I really didn't want to lecture a child).

In every other quest I've run, people have no problems offering something they do not need or want. And I've seen lots of consideration for other players - "hey, rogue, I left +5 tools in there for you" and pots for divines, etc. Maybe I'm just lucky - I pretty much only pug - but it seems the player base on Thelanis is pretty mature and considerate.

[kierg10]

I've only run into loot issues once. I think the player was a young boy who thought that since he had the star he was entitled to his choice of the loot. I just squelched him for the duration of the quest, then dropped group - as did another adult player (I really didn't want to lecture a child).

In every other quest I've run, people have no problems offering something they do not need or want. And I've seen lots of consideration for other players - "hey, rogue, I left +5 tools in there for you" and pots for divines, etc. Maybe I'm just lucky - I pretty much only pug - but it seems the player base on Thelanis is pretty mature and considerate.

One afternoon I was running a weird longsword wielding monk/fighter/rogue.......I pulled so many greater mnemonics. The cleric was probably up about 30 of them from that afternoon :D

[Tiemmothi]

While the loot might be mine and rightly so, for rare drops, if you I dont need it and I know you really do, I will pass it if that has been communicated in a decent fashion. Its game, and I belive your reap what you sow. if your a greedy bastard people remember it. I guess thats why I run mostly guild raids where what people want is communicated and stuff is often freely passed.

[Menace13]

It depends on what I join. If an lfm asks for help on seals, tokens, rare drops, then why I would join to not help?

There is only one time I can remember that I regret. A bunch of us had just met and decided to farm scales at Tor. We were all on voice chat, and having a fun time for hours. Later on, one of the guys mentioned he was collecting Rune Arms for his alt. He had all the dragon robes he needed, but wasn't expecting The Turmoil Within to drop, as he has never seen it yet, while having multiples of the other Arms. I totally forgot and after a few runs, the Rune Arm spawned! Being so used to just clicking loot all, I run by grab all and soon as I did it, he sees the Rune just before it gets taken...

Felt horrible, and I asked was there anything I could do since it was BtA. He just said all good, dude and logged. Learned to never use loot all again.

[Magil]

If I pull it, it's mine unless I have agreed to pass it onto someone else or decide to do so myself if I don't really need it.

Edit: I'm not really going to ask other people to give me their loot afterwards. People are generally nice enough to ask me if I want something if I look qualified for it.

[Tiemmothi]

It depends on what I join. If an lfm asks for help on seals, tokens, rare drops, then why I would join to not help?

There is only one time I can remember that I regret. A bunch of us had just met and decided to farm scales at Tor. We were all on voice chat, and having a fun time for hours. Later on, one of the guys mentioned he was collecting Rune Arms for his alt. He had all the dragon robes he needed, but wasn't expecting The Turmoil Within to drop, as he has never seen it yet, while having multiples of the other Arms. I totally forgot and after a few runs, the Rune Arm spawned! Being so used to just clicking loot all, I run by grab all and soon as I did it, he sees the Rune just before it gets taken...

Felt horrible, and I asked was there anything I could do since it was BtA. He just said all good, dude and logged. Learned to never use loot all again.

Yea i tend to wait and pick single stuff out and leave raid loot in chest and just let it sit till things die down a bit. Make sure no one needs/wants it. then loot it or pass it on.

[Slink]

Leave the servers down.

No Loot, No Drama.

[redspecter23]

Loot drama will always exist when players of different alignments group together. They tend to have different way to interpret (or outright ignore) rules that are posted. If you get a group of like minded people that all agree to rules ahead of time, you will minimize drama. You get a lawful good personality and a chaotic good personality in the same group and they will both try to do the right thing, but in ways that might completely PO the other person.

I'd argue that the only way to avoid loot drama is to not participate in the quest at all. Even the suggestion in the OP is likely to ruffle some feathers. The chaotic good sorcerer gets upset that the lawful evil rogue took the Torc and vendored it while taking screenshots to show everyone. The neutral good cleric put the Mariltih Chain up for roll even though it was explicitly against the LFM rules of looting your own stuff. The neutral ranger just left his Chaosblade to rot, even though the neutral good Fighter asked nicely if he could roll on it instead of just leaving it in the chest. The lawful good paladin loots the Greenblade but feels horrible about it, apologizes to the group and banks it promising to TR to a caster at some point. The neutral evil artificer didn't pull any loot, but he's recording all the chat logs to bring it to the forums later to rant about it all.

Clashing personal alignments cause more loot drama than anything else in this game.

[Viconiax]

If it's your loot, you can do whatever you want with it. :)
If they want the loot that you pull, it's their fault that they made themselves mad (its your! not their!). People just sometimes doesn't think.
Unless you put it up for roll and they win it but for some reason they don't get it. It's not your fault that people sometime have bad luck. :)

[Derailment]

Learned to never use loot all again.

Easy solution which works for me: click loot all (B), then click NO to all bind confirmations.
And then go through the items individually.

[1Soulless1]

While the loot might be mine and rightly so, for rare drops, if you I dont need it and I know you really do, I will pass it if that has been communicated in a decent fashion. Its game, and I belive your reap what you sow. if your a greedy bastard people remember it. I guess thats why I run mostly guild raids where what people want is communicated and stuff is often freely passed.


See that's different. If I am doing a shroud and the guy is like, hey guys I've been grinding this forever and I just can't seem to pulls a shard/lds/ etc to finish off my GS item. If anyone pulls one they don't want I would be more then willing to roll on it, hell I would probley just toss it to him if I didn't need it.

But if someones like , i ned shrdz gimmeh ur shrdz if u no wnt, I would let them rot in the chest.

Same with anything else loot wise, it dropped for me unless I am in a 'solo'ed WS/ druids curse, free chest please pass me the bauble/ivy wraps' kind of lmf's. Then well why would you join it if you had no intention of doing it?

If I don't need it and my guildie does I will pass to him, we are a two man guild and I run with him more then anyone else. If neither of us needs it and we are in a pug then I usually put it up for roll unless I don't like you then I will leave it in the chest to rot.

It's all about the approach. ;)

P.S. I've left abashi seals and shards, I just left a set of antipode in the chest because the other monk was a donkey cave. As I said it doesn't pay to **** off party members who might be willing to put loot up for roll.

[D'arc_Tangent]

This horse has had a hard life. Let us leave it in peace.

[silence383]

If I can not use it..I give it to anyone. But demanding it..no. And most will remember the ones who do so not only do you not get what you asked for..you lost anything you asked for in the future. Be polite and do not demand it goes a long way.

[Sarzor]

Whenever there's a party which has significant loot drama, I just don't open chests.

[WruntJunior]

My solution to loot drama involving people being entitled to my loot (such as people rolling on the SoS my ranger pulled around 2 years ago, before I had put it up for roll, and arguing over who deserved it): loot it, equip it, and link it. :D

In all honesty, though, best solution to loot drama: don't expect loot that didn't fall in your name to be yours. If everyone did that, there'd be no loot drama...though some basic conventions of polite society should be observed (such as, if you put an item up for roll, the actual winner should get it).

[Belsogno]

We have a similar discussion on Canntih forum and some valid points were raisen.

I think a good solution could be, as somebody suggested, an option on UI or even in the chest itself to keep the loot drops invisible to other party members.

[bartharok]

USe evasion?

[SirValentine]

Suggested method for avoiding most loot drama.

Loot rule:
Everyone pulls all items that drop for them in a chest.

I'm not sure how forcing me to take an item I don't need instead of me giving it away to someone I know does need it avoids drama.

[SirValentine]

How to avoid Loot Drama:

Accept that what drops without your name on it is not yours.

QFT.

Drama doesn't come from me giving my loot away, it's from someone thinking they are owed my loot.

[jfgddo]

Some loot drama cant be avoided. Like one time I ran ADQ raid and at end chest someone put up a good item for roll. Low roll wins he said, I win the roll, then he decided that I dont need the item and he is going to give it to one of his friends instead! *** Why roll for it then? LOL

[danzig138]

In every other quest I've run, people have no problems offering something they do not need or want. This is my experience about 50% of the time. The other 50% of the time, people empty the chest so quickly and move on that there isn't even a chance for me to leave something in the chest for someone and let them know (this is especially common in raids). But I have not really run into the whole your loot is my loot thing at all. People are usually neutral to pretty cool about loot.

[Emizand]

Title thread:- Avoid ALL loot drama



Suggested method for avoiding MOST loot drama.

Loot rule:
Everyone pulls all items that drop for them in a chest.


I am calling shenanigans!

[luvirini]

How to avoid 95% of loot drama: just solo the quest/raid.

(the 5% is "grr.. 30 runs of this and still no...")