So I have decided to play on thelanis as my alternate server.....

[kierg10]

.....and since you people will be playing with me I am going to present my build, to see if there are any faults in it/improvements I could make.

Human Druid 20/epic 5/fury of the wild 5 or Primal avatar 5 (really leaning primal avatar as it has some super sexy abilities)

Str 16
Dex 14
Con 14
Int 8
Wis 16 (level ups here for decent spell DCs, but if it is better to put in strength........)
Cha 8

Feats:
1-Shield mastery
1-toughness
3-precision
6-Improved shield mastery
9-Natural fighting
12-IC:bludgeoning
15-Quicken
18-Empower heal
21-Natural fighting
24-Natural fighting

The nat fightings come later, but I would like stable self healing earlier lol

Enhancements:
Natural adept (capstone)
Druid fatal harrier
Natures warrior 2
Beastial nature 2
vengeful hunter 2
shifting rake 2
wisdom 2
human toughness 2
druid tougghness 3
eminence of life 3
waxing life 2 (2 here cause I had 1 remaining AP after theorizing this out, and decided what the heck)
zenith of life 1
human adaptability wisdom
druid strength 2
human greater adaptability strength
druid celerity (this is just a sexy 15 seconds of +50% double strike :D )
human improved recovery 2 (more heal amp, what can I say)
hide of the crocodile 2 (um.........-70% physical and acid damage? uh, ya!)
eminence of hoarfrost 2 (for ice abilities from winter wolf form)
waxing hoarfrost 1
zenith of hoarfrost 1
Druid natures warden 2 (eGH+MOTU=lots of undead/abberations as big baddies.....talking about FoT raid boss, and a lot of enemies in demonweb/CITW)

All comments appreciated :D

[voxson5]

Remember to bring your butterfly's...


..we like butterfly's :)

[kierg10]

Remember to bring your butterfly's...


..we like butterfly's :)

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Iz you'z proud of me? :D

[slimkj]

Welcome to a lovely server.

My comments;


I might be tempted to take one of the two late Natural Fightings a bit earlier, but it's a taste thing. Also I would take Quicken earlier, but I like no-fail healing asap.
Drop Empower Healing, you don't need it, heals work fine enough without it imo, and you can use the Human heal amp without using a feat.
Level ups in Wis is the right thing to do.
Again to taste but I prefer Reaving Roar to Fatal Harrier. It's great even at 21-25 and chains more often than you'd think for decent extra dps. Keeping up FH is just a pain in my arse.


Enjoy your time here! (Druid is great fun if this is your first!)

[FuzzyDuck81]

Looks like a pretty solid build to me, though you can safely ditch the points in DEX & just throw them into either CON for a bit more durability or maybe INT for a couple of extra skillpoints that you can invest in, say, bluff to boost the DC on baiting bite. I'd also probably stick empower healing & quicken a bit earlier, taking improved shield mastery & precision at far higher levels, ensuring i could reliably self-heal in the middle of combat ASAP :)

My own melee druid is a half elf 18druid/2fighter, rogue dilly, so i can fit in extra sneak attack dps & the extra feat for epic toughness (i threw my last couple levelups into con but otherwise my own build is very similar to yours apart from exact feat order), though that does naturally have the drawback of not getting that spell cooldown reduction while in animal form... it also rather handily means I'm proficient in heavy armour so can get extra PRR from the black dragon plate (looking forward to getting the epic version) & also tower shields, as a long-term thing for if i ever manage to get around to making an alchemical shield (make it crystal material & it no longer breaks druid oath).


Welcome to a lovely server.

My comments;


I might be tempted to take one of the two late Natural Fightings a bit earlier, but it's a taste thing. Also I would take Quicken earlier, but I like no-fail healing asap.
Drop Empower Healing, you don't need it, heals work fine enough without it imo, and you can use the Human heal amp without using a feat.
Level ups in Wis is the right thing to do.
Again to taste but I prefer Reaving Roar to Fatal Harrier. It's great even at 21-25 and chains more often than you'd think for decent extra dps. Keeping up FH is just a pain in my arse.


Enjoy your time here! (Druid is great fun if this is your first!)

Reaving roar, at low levels or while soloing, is ridiculously good for dealing damage. Empower healing is a nice one to keep tho IMO.. it works on rejuvenation cocoon once you get into epic levels & will basically be able to be your primary healing for negligible SP once you get there :)

[jortann]

Bairclaw says if you want to come to Thelanis and be druid you shud roll up a Fruidonk.

Thats all.

[kierg10]

Welcome to a lovely server.

My comments;


I might be tempted to take one of the two late Natural Fightings a bit earlier, but it's a taste thing. Also I would take Quicken earlier, but I like no-fail healing asap.
Drop Empower Healing, you don't need it, heals work fine enough without it imo, and you can use the Human heal amp without using a feat.
Level ups in Wis is the right thing to do.
Again to taste but I prefer Reaving Roar to Fatal Harrier. It's great even at 21-25 and chains more often than you'd think for decent extra dps. Keeping up FH is just a pain in my arse.


Enjoy your time here! (Druid is great fun if this is your first!)

Well, it is my first druid i will actually play :D

And thanks on the advice, I was told somewhere else that reaving roar dropped in power at later levels, but if it is still good will hang on to it :D

Dropping empower heal means I can free up a feat slot.....what to take what to take (in consideration, I could swap to half elf then for +3d6 sneak attack)

[Charononus]

I'd get reaving roar it's good stuff. Also if you use silver flame potions at all remember that wolf from lowers int and cha by -2, you'll also want an int item to hit runes in wizking. I ran a melee druid up to cap with pretty much this build, it went well in heroic levels but felt weak in epic to me just as an fyi. Welcome to Thelanis.

[kierg10]

Looks like a pretty solid build to me, though you can safely ditch the points in DEX & just throw them into either CON for a bit more durability or maybe INT for a couple of extra skillpoints that you can invest in, say, bluff to boost the DC on baiting bite. I'd also probably stick empower healing & quicken a bit earlier, taking improved shield mastery & precision at far higher levels, ensuring i could reliably self-heal in the middle of combat ASAP :)

My own melee druid is a half elf 18druid/2fighter, rogue dilly, so i can fit in extra sneak attack dps & the extra feat for epic toughness (i threw my last couple levelups into con but otherwise my own build is very similar to yours apart from exact feat order), though that does naturally have the drawback of not getting that spell cooldown reduction while in animal form... it also rather handily means I'm proficient in heavy armour so can get extra PRR from the black dragon plate (looking forward to getting the epic version) & also tower shields, as a long-term thing for if i ever manage to get around to making an alchemical shield (make it crystal material & it no longer breaks druid oath).

you need atleast 13 dex for precision, and with primal avatar I can get evasion, so I was thinking slightly higher dex for more reflex saving goodness :D

And ISM and precision at higher levels does seem more sensible lol, but will be swapping out empower heal (and maybe going half elf, just gotta figure out which 6 APs I can drop lol.

Also for shield I was thinking Wall of Wood (epic normal, so the 20% heal amp will stack with PDK gloves), that works correct?

Also, for the 375 PDK favour armour upgrade, if you upgrade an armour is it still unbound if not equipped yet, or does it become BTC/BTA? Haven't unlocked it yet on my main server yet, so juts curious :D

Thanks all for the welcome

Also what is a fruidonk? Fruit drunk monk?

[kierg10]

I'd get reaving roar it's good stuff. Also if you use silver flame potions at all remember that wolf from lowers int and cha by -2, you'll also want an int item to hit runes in wizking. I ran a melee druid up to cap with pretty much this build, it went well in heroic levels but felt weak in epic to me just as an fyi. Welcome to Thelanis.

Well, if it feels too weak for me in epics I can always TR to a different build :D

and thanks for the welcome :D

[kierg10]

Revised build:

Half elf Druid 20/epic 5/fury of the wild 5 or Primal avatar 5 (really leaning primal avatar as it has some super sexy abilities)

Str 16
Dex 14
Con 14
Int 8
Wis 16 (level ups here for decent spell DCs, but if it is better to put in strength........)
Cha 8

Feats:
Rogue dilletante, so need atleast 13 starting dex
1-Shield mastery
3-toughness
6-precision
9-Natural fighting
12-quicken
15-IC:bludg
18-ISM
21-Natural fighting
24-Natural fighting

The nat fightings come later, but I would like stable self healing earlier lol

Enhancements:
Natural adept (capstone)
Druid reaving roar
Natures warrior 2
Beastial nature 2
aggravate 2
shifting rake 2
wisdom 2
human toughness 2
druid tougghness 3
eminence of life 3
waxing life 2
zenith of life 1
human adaptability wisdom
druid strength 2
human greater adaptability strength
human improved recovery 2 (more heal amp, what can I say)
hide of the crocodile 2 (um.........-70% physical and acid damage? uh, ya!)
Druid natures warden 2 (eGH+MOTU=lots of undead/abberations as big baddies.....talking about FoT raid boss, and a lot of enemies in demonweb/CITW)
Improved rogue dilletante 2

What dya think?

[jortann]

Also what is a fruidonk? Fruit drunk monk?

Bairclaw decide to help you because Bairclaw used to being around people who need lots of help. 'Bairclaw can you do this?' 'Bairclaw can you do that?' 'Bairclaw why are you so awesome?' ... it goes on all day long...

But Bairclaw digests... or umm diegrass... or ... err die sum thin. You know what Bairclaw trying to say. Here is some magic text http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=385905 if you touch it, it will take you to a conversation Bairclaw had a while ago with some people about being Fruidonkulous!

and short answer is fighter training and monk training and druid training... maybe it is a little like fruit salad.

[kierg10]

Bairclaw decide to help you because Bairclaw used to being around people who need lots of help. 'Bairclaw can you do this?' 'Bairclaw can you do that?' 'Bairclaw why are you so awesome?' ... it goes on all day long...

But Bairclaw digests... or umm diegrass... or ... err die sum thin. You know what Bairclaw trying to say. Here is some magic text http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=385905 if you touch it, it will take you to a conversation Bairclaw had a while ago with some people about being Fruidonkulous!

and short answer is fighter training and monk training and druid training... maybe it is a little like fruit salad.

bearclaw I have a question for you, why are you around people who need help all day?

Are you a therapist?

EDIT: also cool looking build

[jortann]

Well, when Bairclaw started out he was heroic. Bairclaw guess that people like heros. They were on Bairclaw like Bairclaw on donut.

Then one day someone told Bairclaw he was Epic. Bairclaw actually already knew this - duh!?! shocker!?! If you think being a hero is bad, Bairclaw can tell you that being an Epic Hero is wurss. People then come to Bairclaw all the time. 'Help us fight spider lady! help us! help us!

Well, Bairclaw is nice so he say, 'ok, dont look dat hard,' and he fight spider lady. Then everone was like ,'wow.'

So, thats kind of how it happened.

[slimkj]

you need atleast 13 dex for precision, and with primal avatar I can get evasion, so I was thinking slightly higher dex for more reflex saving goodness :D
I'm a fan of Precision too, as I found I was getting quite a few glancing blows in tougher content with Power Attack on. If you've not got the tomes to support dropping Dex and you want it, stick with it. 2 pts of Con isn't going to often mean the difference between life & death. I was lucky and had tomes from a PL to rely on.

Fuzzy is right, Emp Heal can be useful. I just don't think it's worth a feat slot on a human if you're going pure and not splashing for extra feats. Personal taste is all.


Also for shield I was thinking Wall of Wood (epic normal, so the 20% heal amp will stack with PDK gloves), that works correct?
Yep that's correct.


Also, for the 375 PDK favour armour upgrade, if you upgrade an armour is it still unbound if not equipped yet, or does it become BTC/BTA? Haven't unlocked it yet on my main server yet, so juts curious :D
It stays unbound until equipped.
--
Helf for Sneak Attack is always a nice option... I decided against it on mine as it was primarily one of my solo chars I use when guildies are offline, so I wanted the extra feat for better defence. Down to intended playstyle I guess!

[kierg10]

I'm a fan of Precision too, as I found I was getting quite a few glancing blows in tougher content with Power Attack on. If you've not got the tomes to support dropping Dex and you want it, stick with it. 2 pts of Con isn't going to often mean the difference between life & death. I was lucky and had tomes from a PL to rely on.

Fuzzy is right, Emp Heal can be useful. I just don't think it's worth a feat slot on a human if you're going pure and not splashing for extra feats. Personal taste is all.


Yep that's correct.


It stays unbound until equipped.
--
Helf for Sneak Attack is always a nice option... I decided against it on mine as it was primarily one of my solo chars I use when guildies are offline, so I wanted the extra feat for better defence. Down to intended playstyle I guess!

I plan to be in a group mostly, but also have improved deception for when i need to solo :D

and being an epic hero is always worse bairclaw, so come over to the dark side :D

[danotmano1998]

Welcome to your new (alternate?) home.

Have a cup of tea?
Build looks solid, but being a Fruidonk is hard work. You may not want all that hooplah, it's hard to get anything done when you're always being bombarded with media opportunities.

See you on the field.
P.S. Jortann's guild is a great choice if you're looking for a new home. ;)

[kierg10]

Welcome to your new (alternate?) home.

Have a cup of tea?
Build looks solid, but being a Fruidonk is hard work. You may not want all that hooplah, it's hard to get anything done when you're always being bombarded with media opportunities.

See you on the field.
P.S. Jortann's guild is a great choice if you're looking for a new home. ;)

thanks :D

I will probably wait until I hit level 20 to join a guild......so that if I just give up I don't anger anyone :D

hope to see you in game :D

[xSeverinax]

Do you have monk class? I ask because the synergy is very good and you get to have evasion and a couple of extra goodies. I used stunning blow in the middle of an ice storm ans would knock the pants of the mobs. Fists of light along with the druid healing spells will do a great job at keeping you healthy, and likewise the other finishers like walking on air for a blure effect, fire for an attack bonus and the water one that makes your spells cheaper. Plus on top of that you get to add your wisdom bonus to your AC.

[kierg10]

Do you have monk class? I ask because the synergy is very good and you get to have evasion and a couple of extra goodies. I used stunning blow in the middle of an ice storm ans would knock the pants of the mobs. Fists of light along with the druid healing spells will do a great job at keeping you healthy, and likewise the other finishers like walking on air for a blure effect, fire for an attack bonus and the water one that makes your spells cheaper. Plus on top of that you get to add your wisdom bonus to your AC.

yeah, I'm VIP, the only thing is I really want to go pure druid :D

Might TR into a monk splash druid meleeist eventually though :)

[xSeverinax]

Ahh, ok. My Drunk was probably one of my more fun lives. I definitely recomend reaving roar, - i used to bounce around in a group of mobs, get their health down and then when you kill one the bonus damage starts a chain reaction of death and more bursts throughout the group, mad fun!

[kierg10]

Ahh, ok. My Drunk was probably one of my more fun lives. I definitely recomend reaving roar, - i used to bounce around in a group of mobs, get their health down and then when you kill one the bonus damage starts a chain reaction of death and more bursts throughout the group, mad fun!

Was watching a druid destroy in shadow crypt the other day, since he would kill something, then get the chain reaction of booms from reaving roar :D

Was fun to watch xD

[Ivan_Milic]

Are you strong?

[kierg10]

Are you strong?

http://ddocrafting.info/myddo/argonnessen/Jikksill/

I run this through EEs with minimal issues.

EDIT: those are my stats with ship buffs :p the other day was running EE reclaiming the rift, the deaths went as follows: Wizard 1, barbarian (900ish unbuffed HP) 3, paladin (900ish HP) 3, cleric (900ish HP) 3, fighter/rogue (900ish HP) 3, Me on that artie 2.

Boo yaa

[Charononus]

Are you strong?


http://ddocrafting.info/myddo/argonnessen/Jikksill/

I run this through EEs with minimal issues.

EDIT: those are my stats with ship buffs :p the other day was running EE reclaiming the rift, the deaths went as follows: Wizard 1, barbarian (900ish unbuffed HP) 3, paladin (900ish HP) 3, cleric (900ish HP) 3, fighter/rogue (900ish HP) 3, Me on that artie 2.

Boo yaa
Actually that's question is part of I guess you'd call it server humor. There is a lfm troll on thelanis that puts up lfms as "Strongs Only" if you see that in an lfm run the otherway.

[kierg10]

Actually that's question is part of I guess you'd call it server humor. There is a lfm troll on thelanis that puts up lfms as "Strongs Only" if you see that in an lfm run the otherway.

Okay.

So I should leave the door to my room open while playing?

[bruener]

cant comment on your druid build. gave the class a whirl for a bit....wasnt for me but welcome to the server

[Ivan_Milic]

Okay.

So I should leave the door to my room open while playing?

No,you have to be a cat.

[kierg10]

No,you have to be a cat.

meow.


:3

[Ivan_Milic]

We dont like cats.

[kierg10]

we dont like cats.

meow!

:3

[Ivan_Milic]

Woof woof.

[MuleAxe]

Might as well move all yer peeps over here now. Save yer self the trouble of doing it later on.

[kierg10]

Might as well move all yer peeps over here now. Save yer self the trouble of doing it later on.

meh, I like the people I might on argo (even though it is argo) and will be playing on both servers lol.

[MuleAxe]

meh, I like the people I might on argo (even though it is argo) and will be playing on both servers lol.

Bring em with ya... plenty of room for all

[Cryohazard]

Wait...you actually thought we were going to let you leave and go back to argo?

Btw, Hai and welcome. Ignore the cats, squash some butterflies, and watch out for the squirrels.

[kierg10]

Wait...you actually thought we were going to let you leave and go back to argo?

Btw, Hai and welcome. Ignore the cats, squash some butterflies, and watch out for the squirrels.

And always ignore, squash, and watch out for buttercatirrels?

[begbie]

Welcome to the server.

May I give a piece of advice w/o it being taken wrong?

(most likely not) :)

Forget "builds", forget copying others and past concepts... forget trying to being "uber".. and just be cool. Know how to solo almost everything, and only pug if you are after one of two things.. a freaking disaster of epic proportions (it happens).. or if you want a fast Zerg with no deaths and tons of tasty xp. Both can happen and well.. be prepared to learn which party is which.. lol

Anyhow, have fun.. be a solid player and don't join the first guild that has an lfm up.. the best guilds require an application and trial period.. don't join anything less, and don't take the yellow pill.

[kierg10]

Welcome to the server.

May I give a piece of advice w/o it being taken wrong?

(most likely not) :)

Forget "builds", forget copying others and past concepts... forget trying to being "uber".. and just be cool. Know how to solo almost everything, and only pug if you are after one of two things.. a freaking disaster of epic proportions (it happens).. or if you want a fast Zerg with no deaths and tons of tasty xp. Both can happen and well.. be prepared to learn which party is which.. lol

Anyhow, have fun.. be a solid player and don't join the first guild that has an lfm up.. the best guilds require an application and trial period.. don't join anything less, and don't take the yellow pill.

Thanks mate.

I know not to join the first guild don't worry, I made that mistake already (and even started a few guilds of my own that flopped, since I thought normal practice was invite out of harbor, ofc I hadn't made it past tempests spine -er- level 12 yet......so :3

I PUG a lot! I like to pug.

Mostly because I have been in a small guild for most of the last 2 and a half years lol.

I do worry about builds, because I want something that works well, I don't want to have to spend money later on many LRs to fix some dumb mistake :D

And thanks for the welcome :)

[JamnJD]

Welcome to the Canada of DDO.

Just remember to say "sorry" if someone bumps into you.

:)

...J

[kierg10]

Welcome to the Canada of DDO.

Just remember to say "sorry" if someone bumps into you.

:)

...J

Yay being canadian :D