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fco-karatekid
01-13-2013, 11:11 PM
Whatever code is behind Albus' behavior - copy and paste it into other divines' routines.

I always have a sincere feeling of confidence when I hit 20, because Albus is my hireling of choice when I am soloing. He can heal through Epic Hard 24's with ease. His timing on tossing heals is perfect - not too early, not too late - and this is whether I am melee or ranged. He glitches VERY infrequently on follow commands... one exception being he's not fond of rivers.

I don't think I've ever used any of the epic hirelings yet because of this... nice job to whomever programmed him.

FestusHood
01-13-2013, 11:12 PM
Yes, absolutely agree. Albus is the best of the best.

Lonnbeimnech
01-14-2013, 12:10 AM
Larafay Do'rret.

That is all.

FestusHood
01-14-2013, 12:14 AM
Larafay Do'rret.

That is all.

The mad bomber? The cometfall queen? She's fun until you actually need her to heal you and she's out of sp.

Shishizaru
01-14-2013, 12:36 AM
Albus is my go-to guy as well. Only issue I run into sometimes is his preference for trying to cast unquickened Mass Heals on himself when taking damage (often resulting in him failing). But, given all the other things he does "right," I don't mind that much. :)

zwiebelring
01-14-2013, 02:00 AM
Is there any player who can match his timing of non quickendd mass heals? :)

Dandonk
01-14-2013, 02:02 AM
one exception being he's not fond of rivers.

Uh oh. I bet you don't see his reflection in mirrors, either?

FranOhmsford
01-14-2013, 05:05 AM
Sorry but I have to disagree - Albus I've always found to be way too slow!

And I use a lot of Hirelings!

At Lvl 20 it's Wyoh! {Implosion ftw}
At Lvl 19 - Klin and his Hezzy
At Lvl 16/17/18 - Isadora {Natasha if I need DV} - Ayron is just too d@rn squishy!
At Lvl 14/15 - Tempys {Larafay's been nerfed - I'm sure of it}!
At Lvl 13 - Duerim Guardwell {First Hire with Mass Deathward}
At Lvl 12 - Miranda {DV} or Roshan
At Lvl 9-11 - Marissa Lorle {Superb}
At Lvl 7-8 - Zaghar Everstar {Or Laerathor if I need DV}
At Lvl 6 - Mareth Lorestryn
At Lvl 5 - Kendra Estleton
At Lvl 3-4 - Erythyn Veridyn
At Lvl 1-2 - It really doesn't matter!

Good Rogues
---------------
Lvl 1 - Riana Montague
Lvl 4 - Talonia
Lvl 5 - Kelorn
Lvl 8 - Shadow
Lvl 13 - Fira
Lvl 16 - Morlass

Good Melees
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Lvl 3 - Frenzy
Lvl 4 - Kurik
Lvl 10 - Anvil
Lvl 11 - Mikayl {only for DDoor}

Good Casters
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Lvl 5 - Zeran {Insanely good - Some would say broken}
Lvl 6 - Blast
Lvl 11 - Toad
Lvl 13 - Barrage
Lvl 14 - Sigil
Lvl 18 - Lalisa Forestwing

Good Bards
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Lvl 2 - Ronen Alborn
Lvl 4 - Lairon Hester

A lot of hirelings aren't much kop but the truly awful ones:

Elizabeth Cinder {Lvl 1 Sorc} - Grease Monkey
Steel {Lvl 1 Fighter} - Battleaxe and Towershield - DPS truly lacking compared to the other Melee Hires
Chalice {Lvl 1 Cleric} - WF Cleric! - Dryad and Breven are so superior it's not funny
Maloren {Lvl 4 Cleric} - Just abysmal!
Fergus {Lvl 8 Cleric} - Ditto!
Riswald the Pure {Lvl 13 Paladin} - Why?
Nedry Smallfoot {Lvl 17 Wizard} - Waste of space!
Kaylen {Lvl 20 Sorc} - Just don't bother!

danzig138
01-14-2013, 09:40 AM
Sorry but I have to disagree - Albus I've always found to be way too slow!

And I use a lot of Hirelings!

At Lvl 20 it's Wyoh! {Implosion ftw}

In my experience (and I too use a lot of hirelings), Wyoh mostly stands around and dies.

FranOhmsford
01-14-2013, 10:02 AM
In my experience (and I too use a lot of hirelings), Wyoh mostly stands around and dies.

1. Make sure she's off timer!
2. As you get to the next set of mobs tell her to cast Implosion!
3. You'll be in between her and the mobs so they'll have to get past you to get to her.
4. Profit as 2-4 mobs simply vanish!

She's not quite as squishy as she used to be - All hirelings having gotten more HP!
And I personally take Augment Summoning at every opportunity {this has always pushed her past the one-shot limit at level {18 quests on Elite, 19 hard, 20/21 E-Normal}.

Albus may have plenty of HP but too many times has he stood there trying to cast mass heal on himself while I'm lying dead on the floor.
And of course he joins me as the mobs can easily distract him so he can't cast at all!

Miow
01-14-2013, 11:10 AM
I have to say albus has been my buddy at 20 and beyond but lately he's been horrible not sure why....he'll just stand there at 50 hp and not heal himself or not healj meh.

Kinerd
01-15-2013, 04:22 PM
The #1 healing hireling is Althea, the level 16 FvS. This is because her panic heal of choice is Mass Cure Critical, and when it fails she doesn't stand around pointlessly like Albus after his Mass Heal is inevitably interrupted. This isn't a problem with his AI, more a problem with the wisdom of whoever designed his spell/feat selection.

Missing_Minds
01-15-2013, 04:27 PM
Yes, absolutely agree. Albus is the best of the best.

When leveling, I often choose Larafay Do'rret as well. I also have a lot of fun with Barrage.

Used to really like Caraneth Myar, but they royally screwed over her AI so much, she just isn't worth it. She is a hinderance and NOT a help. If she droped firestrike for a res spell, she'd at least be salvageable, but in her current state.... get her drunk and let her waste.

voxson5
01-15-2013, 04:36 PM
I quite like Anthem (sp?); lv6 WF warchanter

He will get conquest and ransack in every quest, perfect for flower sniffing moments ;)


Larafey is still no. 1 (mad bomber should be in her description)

FranOhmsford
01-16-2013, 06:47 AM
I quite like Anthem (sp?); lv6 WF warchanter

He will get conquest and ransack in every quest, perfect for flower sniffing moments ;)


He'll get Ransack yes!

I've never seen him actually attack a live mob however!

He has Hunter of Boxes Enhancement that's for sure!

voodoogroves
01-16-2013, 08:55 AM
Heh, when I use them they tend to be ...
- Larafay & Caraneath or whatever the L19 FVS for when I want to annoy people with their kill counts
- Divines w/ DW
- Divines w/ DV
- Mr. D-Door
- The low level drow Wiz who can hit the INT rune in Tear

Ginarrbrik
01-16-2013, 10:24 AM
Albus ftw! Better than the epic lvl divine hires imo. If I need a hire when im on my fighter, I always go to him. The spells on his hotbar are very useful.

beilschmidt
01-17-2013, 09:51 AM
I don't remember the name but my level 13 FVS hireling zerged in one of the Sands quest and died horribly.
And not divine but - one of the low level fighters (level 10 or 11) can cast Dimension Door. (Dragonmark)

Nitesco
01-20-2013, 03:48 PM
All my toons carry multiple Albi. :)

AZgreentea
01-20-2013, 03:54 PM
I always figured that the hireling AI was the same for all, and their behavior was more related to their ability/attempts to use the skills given to them. Some skills and feats seem easier for their AI to understand.

I would love it more if they were to give the hirelings PRE's like they gave the epic ones Destinies. A healing aura would go a long way for the standard cleric hirelings.

Vellrad
01-20-2013, 04:38 PM
Andaro FTW ;p

Spoonwelder
01-20-2013, 05:04 PM
Larafay #1 for sure - you just ahve to manage her SP a bit - when she gets below 400 I start locking her down before fights so I can get healed and she doesn't blow her wad before the next shrine. If I am doing it right though we get to the next shrine just when she is out of gas.

Next for me is any Cleric with DV...when I am on a caster. Natasha is worth about 500SP so pretty much better than a Major Pot.

The only epic hireling I have used is the rogue for holoing Impossible Demands and LostThread.

SealedInSong
01-21-2013, 06:49 PM
Sorry but I have to disagree - Albus I've always found to be way too slow!

And I use a lot of Hirelings!


Very nice. Some made me laugh out loud. +1

SealedInSong
01-21-2013, 06:50 PM
The mad bomber? The cometfall queen? She's fun until you actually need her to heal you and she's out of sp.

Absolutely hilarious. I have to use her now.