The Reconstructor - Healer of Warforged

[Ushurak]

Just a thought and an idea...mostly to see if it is a build that would be accepted or effective or make questing (raids mostly) more efficient.

Don't take this next statement as an opening for a debate...it is just a way to rationalize the build.

IF Divines MUST play heal bots (due to having inherent abilities to be able to do such) then the logical conclusion should be that Arcanes MUST play recon bots for WF (for same reasons).

My Capped lvl/ED Sorc carries a 120% Recon / 12% Recon Lore item.
He does not have transmutation focus nor any of the crit enhancements.

So, let's take a Wizzie and give him the same item plus crit enhancements plus full string of Transmutation focuses (which would open up a unique spell line as well), let's give him Repair Serious Mass, Critical Mass and Reconstruct.

Would all Warforged grouping become viable?

The biggest problem I see is there is NO Reconstruct Mass (completely bigoted IMHO) and the Reconstruct does not cure other ailments (unlike Heal...again...bigoted) and no way to inherently increase Reconning Amp (bigoted).

If someone were to take the time to make this build (such as someone that loves playing the Healer but wants a change of pace), and they went out of their way to let the server know that this is the role they were trying to fill, would there be a place for them?

[DrakHar]

No, at least not with the type of people who run the most difficult content. My guild doesn't consist of people who ply only the best, but we don't make terrible characters. WF melee are terrible.

The real reason, besides poor heal amp, is that there is no repair amp. (Which you noted, and its the biggest issue). I dont care what *your* spellpower is. The heal...ee... if that's a word, doesn't have the +100% or more that most DPS and tanking type characters will have to their healing amplification.

You may find a niche group where it's appreciated, but realistically, no. I can't pretend I never encountered (and healed!) wf melee on my wf sorc when I was TRing. But it was rare to see one. I think I saw one competent one, who was worth healing. (Old player who had the character left at 12 or so. He was getting to 20 to tr out of the horribleness that was wf).

[DarkForte]

He'd still be worse than a cleric with emp-healing at healing wf with decent healing amp.

[Hessenfeldt]

This needs to be moved

[Ushurak]

No, at least not with the type of people who run the most difficult content. My guild doesn't consist of people who ply only the best, but we don't make terrible characters. WF melee are terrible.

The real reason, besides poor heal amp, is that there is no repair amp. (Which you noted, and its the biggest issue). I dont care what *your* spellpower is. The heal...ee... if that's a word, doesn't have the +100% or more that most DPS and tanking type characters will have to their healing amplification.

You may find a niche group where it's appreciated, but realistically, no. I can't pretend I never encountered (and healed!) wf melee on my wf sorc when I was TRing. But it was rare to see one. I think I saw one competent one, who was worth healing. (Old player who had the character left at 12 or so. He was getting to 20 to tr out of the horribleness that was wf).

I figured the HA argument would be the biggest and rightly so.
I didn't cover it in detail due to making the op unbearably long...but now that we are here...

Let's assume that some dev with a heart decides to once again show WF some love and adds a recon amp enhancement and possibly empower reconstruct...would that change things?

[Hellllboy]

I figured the HA argument would be the biggest and rightly so.
I didn't cover it in detail due to making the op unbearably long...but now that we are here...

Let's assume that some dev with a heart decides to once again show WF some love and adds a recon amp enhancement and possibly empower reconstruct...would that change things?

My guild has tried all WF static teams before. We usually end up carrying a Cleric or FvS anyhow just to fix the stuff that others can not.

While it would be great if they amp'd up Repair and gave us Mass Reconstruct-there will never be a majority of Caster type players that will invest in this or even carry the spell.

Most reliable Healers will out-heal any WF reductions to the point that I think a build like this looses much potential over what they could do in other areas.

[Tyrande]

My guild has tried [...]-there will never be a majority of Caster type players that will invest in this or even carry the spell.

Most reliable Healers will out-heal [...]

This. I do not have statistical data but AFAIK including myself playing arcane casters DO NOT WANT TO WATCH other players health bars or other players ailments.

These players either want to nuke, blast, instant kill or crowd control and be ubertastic. That is all.

[Ingemar]

There are those cleric types that don't want to watch the red bars of other players too.

The only thing Artificers, Wizards and Sorcs don't have that clerics and fs do is the ability to rez. I suppose if you get your umd up high enough and buy a few scrolls you can get around that one too.

For the most part, people go wf so that they can self heal. Self healing teams are far better than those that think you should simply try to pound the enemy without regard to your own defense because a healer will keep your bar up.

I see no need for mass reconstruct.

Take healers friend a couple of times if you are really worried about it.

[SirValentine]

Reconstruct does not cure other ailments (unlike Heal...again...bigoted)
But Reconstruct doesn't NEED to cure those other ailments, because Warforged are completely immune to...oh, wait...nevermind.

[Blue100000005]

HEALS FOR EVERYONE.


And i do throw WF heals IF i have the spells on that toon.

[Paleus]

For the time being, I would suggest you retitle this thread The Reincarnator - Kruz - Healer of Warforged. Until several of the items mentioned are redressed (heal/recon amp imbalance, significant loss of immunities) or other boons are added, warforged will remain a niche race for arcanes and artificers.

[Ushurak]

Well, I can say that even though it may be a general consensus that a "Reconstructor" would not be a great idea (at least as the current state of WF stand) we have come to a conclusion that there are some things we all agree that Turbine should address in a more positive manner when it comes to Warforged and the repair/reconstruct spell line.

Guess I should go to Suggestions section and bring this together in a thread in a positive manner...

The worst that can happen is that they ignore it :D