Screen Shot Your Choices and Why

[samthedagger]

I am curious what other divine players are doing with their Exalted Angel ED and what their reasons for their choices are. So post a screen shot of your capped EA build and explain why you picked what you did. Here is mine:
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac185/samthedagger/DDO/ScreenShot00057.jpg
As you can see I am grinding out my fate points, but this is still what I use when I swap to EA. My cleric is a caster build (evoker, metamagics, and spell pen). So I opted for more spell power, spell points, and Wisdom boosts. Also reborn in the light is excellent and easy to build up to by spamming nimbus of light and cure light wounds during party down time (while others are shrining, group is waiting at entrance, etc.) I took Blood and Radiance 1 just to get to it. Blood and Radiance isn't so bad itself especially since 90% or more of my castings are heals or light spells anyway (with occasional implosions and sound bursts tossed in). I've played around with most things, but not all.

The Judgment tree is fun to play with but not exceptionally useful, at least not in my experience. There are a few quests and a couple raids where it makes a big difference, but when I am in my primary role as healer/evoker during a raid, I think it is just a waste of points.

Avenging light is great, and I wish I had enough points for it. It is a great way to add some excellent DPS at low cost. I may at some point swap out my epic moment for it, maybe when I get to Shiradi.

I have never taken Embrace the Light. It seems like the only place you need it is Caught in the Web. That might be reason enough to take it once I get to the point where I can run it on Epic Elite. But I don't know that the reduction is really all that worth it.

I never tried Smite the Wicked because my character is optimized for casting, not melee. Though I imagine it packs quite a punch.

Renewal looks interesting, but I have never tried it. It might be worth trying out for extra healing for barbs and other high HP characters with little damage mitigation.

Purity of Essence just looks like a waste. Such little healing amp for such a high cost.

I tried Rebuke Foe, but I rarely found opportunity to use it. I definitely see some potential there for using it against raid bosses though.

I tried Excoriate but it just didn't seem to proc often enough to be useful.

Be at Peace seems expensive and so easy to break that I never tried it.

Divine Wrath is fun, but sometimes it takes a while to build up to that Endless Ardor 10 stack.

I never tried Strike Down because my character isn't built for melee.

[HuneyMunster]

Also reborn in the light is excellent and easy to build up to by spamming nimbus of light and cure light wounds during party down time (while others are shrining, group is waiting at entrance, etc.)



Why not take 2 points in Renewal instead of 1 wisdom to top people up? Instead of using CLW to get enough stacks for Reborn in the Light? You could twist in 1 wisdom until you can balance your wisdom back to an even number.

Not gonna bother with a screenshot, but Ive taken.
Wisdom *3
Avenging Light (For Endless Ardor stacks)
Radiant Power, Healing Power, Endless Faith 3/3 (Spell points/Echos)
Renewal 2/3 (Choice was between another Wisdom, but this seems too good to miss)
Blood and Radiance 1/3 (preq)
Rebuke Foe (preq)
Divine Wrath (Love this spell, just hate the targeting isssues and that it cant be Quickened)

Would have been nice if Rebuke and Excoriate were 1 point instead of 2 which would alow me to max Renewal.

[samthedagger]

As a cleric I have no difficulties topping people up. Recharging radiant auras and bursts take care of that easily. If I were a favored souls I might consider renewal more seriously. But it seems like many divines are taking it so maybe it is worth another look. But honestly, I don't have SP management problems. And on top of that I rarely use scrolls except to raise. But you look to have an interesting setup. I have a hard time sacrificing the wisdom though. I get a lot of mileage out of implosion, even on epic elite where I get around 20% procs.

[zeichen-thest]

I know people are entitled to their choices but I just don't understand why you would gimp your build so much for a few extra points in wisdom. 12 AP for wisdom is the ultimate waste.

My build is similar to huney munster.

Avenging light is a very powerful spell. You can put all of your metamagics and for only 3 points do about 300points of dmg and 800+ crits. I have even had crits as high as 1400.

Also I think that Divine Wrath is incredibly powerful. Why wouldn't you want an AOE that heals allies and dmgs enemies at the same time. Though I like reborn in the light, it really hasn't been the most practical spell overall. I do a lot more dmg overall with divine wrath loading and ready for action at least 2-3 times per battle whereas reborn might be ready 2 times in a long dungeon and not even once in a short one.

The four AP you get for losing one DC from 2 wis points is worth it for me. I still can break 50DC with draconic and magister DC twisted in and the extra fire power from the avenging tree with those four points adds a lot to my damage capabilities.

[Niwareka]

Brunhildha has capped the Exalted Angel ED taking the following, and is now working through Unyielding Sentinel.

Exalted Angel
Tier One - Avenging light, Endless faith, Radiant power x 3, Healing power, Wisdom
Tier Two - Wisdom
Tier Three - Wisdom
Tier Four - Rebuke foe, Blood and radiance x 3, Wisdom
Tier Five - Wisdom
Tier Six - Divine Wrath

She was partly inspired by this thread
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=386134
which pushes a build that ignores the high Wis requirement of the usual Evoker, and instead aims at Light-based damage. In fact Brunhildha discovered that you can have your cake and still eat most of it. She took all but the most expensive Light boosting enhancements but still has evoker DCs good enough for Implosion to land most of the time.

She throws a rotation of searing light / avenging light / nimbus of light at the boss along with Divine Punishment and the Archon ticking away. It is all light based, and having 3 ranks of Blood and Radiance means she can throw Divine Wrath at about 10 sec intervals. Frankly she hardly ever uses Mass Heal any more. Why interrupt that nice damage flow when mass healing centred on the boss is so much better than targeted on some unreliable barb!

The one thing she is missing is Renewal, but healing on a FVS is so effective and cheap I don't see that it matters.

[samthedagger]

I know people are entitled to their choices but I just don't understand why you would gimp your build so much for a few extra points in wisdom. 12 AP for wisdom is the ultimate waste.

My build is similar to huney munster.

Avenging light is a very powerful spell. You can put all of your metamagics and for only 3 points do about 300points of dmg and 800+ crits. I have even had crits as high as 1400.

Also I think that Divine Wrath is incredibly powerful. Why wouldn't you want an AOE that heals allies and dmgs enemies at the same time. Though I like reborn in the light, it really hasn't been the most practical spell overall. I do a lot more dmg overall with divine wrath loading and ready for action at least 2-3 times per battle whereas reborn might be ready 2 times in a long dungeon and not even once in a short one.

The four AP you get for losing one DC from 2 wis points is worth it for me. I still can break 50DC with draconic and magister DC twisted in and the extra fire power from the avenging tree with those four points adds a lot to my damage capabilities.Wow! How do you get the 50 DC without maxing the Wisdom? I am at 47 even with the Wisdom maxed! Would you mind breaking it down? I'd like to see what I am missing.

[samthedagger]

Brunhildha has capped the Exalted Angel ED taking the following, and is now working through Unyielding Sentinel.

Exalted Angel
Tier One - Avenging light, Endless faith, Radiant power x 3, Healing power, Wisdom
Tier Two - Wisdom
Tier Three - Wisdom
Tier Four - Rebuke foe, Blood and radiance x 3, Wisdom
Tier Five - Wisdom
Tier Six - Divine Wrath

She was partly inspired by this thread
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=386134
which pushes a build that ignores the high Wis requirement of the usual Evoker, and instead aims at Light-based damage. In fact Brunhildha discovered that you can have your cake and still eat most of it. She took all but the most expensive Light boosting enhancements but still has evoker DCs good enough for Implosion to land most of the time.

She throws a rotation of searing light / avenging light / nimbus of light at the boss along with Divine Punishment and the Archon ticking away. It is all light based, and having 3 ranks of Blood and Radiance means she can throw Divine Wrath at about 10 sec intervals. Frankly she hardly ever uses Mass Heal any more. Why interrupt that nice damage flow when mass healing centred on the boss is so much better than targeted on some unreliable barb!

The one thing she is missing is Renewal, but healing on a FVS is so effective and cheap I don't see that it matters.That's some really good info. I think I need to play around with Divine Wrath to see what I can get out of it. I have light damage nearly maxed (only missing tier 4 cleric enhancement) so I should be able to get some pretty good numbers.

[samthedagger]

I decided to try a completely different path based on some of the feedback I've received from this thread and build up my EA path focusing on light damage and spending zero points on Wisdom. Instead I took Avenging Light, Renewal 3, Blood and Radiance 3, Rebuke Foe, and Divine Wrath. I have to say it seems to work pretty well. However, I am still practicing using some of the new abilities. Renewal is more effective than I thought it would be and the cost is very low. And trying to use Divine Wrath as often as possible while cycling light spells works better than I previously experienced, maybe because this time I put more focus into light damage.

It is still hard to give up that +3 to Implosion DCs though. My implosion just isn't proccing as much as it used to.

[sirgog]

Firstly, Renewal. It's the single best epic destiny ability in any tree for a healing-oriented character. Must have, 3/3, take it at any cost. (If in doubt, decide randomly which other thing to sacrifice for it, as Renewal is better than whatever else you could pick).

Then I think you need to pick one - Light damage oriented DPS caster, or DC caster. Take everything toward your goal. There's some minor tools for melee builds too but they don't do much compared to real melee destinies.

Healing Amp is such an overpowered stat that even a small amount of it can be very potent - if you abuse escalating returns on it. However it doesn't fit most builds.

[samthedagger]

Well, I've been using Renewal, and it's nice. But I don't know that I would say it is that critical. I have fairly good SP management skills and so Renewal is just sort of a bonus. If I were a favored soul I would say it is a must-have. But as a cleric, you have burst and aura to top up with heals for no SP. Maybe my opinion will change over time.

Right now I am focusing on light damage DPS and it's a lot of fun. I am actually starting to get a lot of use out of Divine Wrath. That's a cool little ability to use.

I did have one point left over and used it for healing amp 3%. I still don't think it is really worth the point investment. Maxing out at 10% is kind of poor for 3 points. Maybe if it maxed out at 15%.

[Terebinthia]

I've given out too much rep today to rep, so I'll say thanks instead for an interesting topic. Definitely food for thought here. Still going for Shiradi on my FvS for the moment, but bookmarked :)