Demonweb resetting Elite Bravery Bonus

[Desdemonte]

The other day I went into a CiTW on Normal with one of my melee. It was his 2nd run, with the 1st one being on EH. I was looking at the XP screen and it said it was breaking my Elite BB. I submitted a ticket but the GM couldn't help me. So I submitted a bug report. No big deal, as his Elite BB was only around 20.

So yesterday I go into the Demonweb quests on my 11th life sorc. Have been doing Elite streak since start of 1st life. Had it up to 1095. Did Trial by Fury and Deal and the Demon on EE. I go back in today to do Reclaiming the Rift, and I notice my BB is at 2. Submitted ticket- no help. Bug Reported (for all the good it's going to do me. Grrrrr)

F**king Demonweb quests are resetting my elite BB's. The first one I didn't care about. This one I'm P**SED about.

[EllisDee37]

Same thing happened to my wizard on the underdark chain. It was only up tto like 176 but still annoyed me. Didn't notice until I'd finished that my normal run was breaking my streak. I'd already run the whole chain on hard for bravery, and was doing a normal pass for the free first-time bonus xp. Worth mentioning: I was epic xp capped when this happened.

Oddly, the next day I logged on and presto! Bravery streak was inexplicably restored.

[Cryptic.Assassin]

I don't think its just demon web quests and I also don't think its just elite streak. I had almost the same thing happen to me while running in the belly of the beast. Had a hard streak of around 250 and ran it epic hard for the first time, completed and got full xp like I should. However, when I went to run it again on epic normal, I noticed that the xp log said it was going to break my streak but I just assumed it was a display bug and proceeded anyway. Nope, it reset my streak back to 0.

It's not that big of a deal to me as I always seem to run something once capped that resets my streak before TRing again but I can see how it would be very frustrating for others who are trying to keep a streak through TRs. Especially an elite streak. I think there was another thread a little while back that had brought up this issue as it has happened to others before.

[Dandonk]

This just happened to me on eADQ and eDQ. This bug is getting annoying.

It's interesting that EllisDee's streak was restored. Mine wasn't, back when I first was hit by this. But more recently I've just recalled and ran on hard instead, so I can't say if this is a partial fix that's been put in lately... hmmm...

[EllisDee37]

I'm trying to remember the details. I'm pretty sure (but not positive) that the run that broke my streak was the last run I did that day.

After completion I often like to bring up the xp log to see what bonuses I got. (eg: Did the 2 patches of breakables I lobbed some sonic blasts at get me vandal?) That was when I noticed the scary red "This breaks your streak" with the Hard streak listed at 0. So it was pretty darn broken.

[kaleid0star]

Doing rusted blades on normal/hard also breaks elite streaks, consequently, if you red box it on hard it counts towards your hard streaks too so you can like get a hard streak going just farming it on hard.

[Innara]

On one of my lives I was trying to run DD on casual to upgrade my stones. I was lv23 at the time and went in on casual only to have it say it will break my streak. DD is lv20 base which means only lv22 and below should break their streak for not running on elite (Like how one could run shroud with lv20+ on norm/hard to keep their elite streak if they're lv19 or below). I sent in a ticket and had the gm tell me it is 'WAI'. Seriously? I was however able to get a friend with a lv25 to come in and it no longer broke my streak.

At another point, I was running the lod chain for the first time (that is, I did not run it at heroic level at all) on eh at lv20 with a lv25 toon in the party. It said I'd break my elite streak despite the base quest level being 21 and thus max 23 for the purpose of BB.

IMO, it has got to do with the changes to over level xp penalty for epic toons. A lv25 is counted as a lv23 for example so as to not impose a hefty penalty on lower level toons. It's a shame that they broke the BB system with it tho, which should not count a lv25 as a lv23 character. The fact that the gm even went so far as saying 'WAI' is a bit worrying, however. It might never get 'fixed'. An actual dev response would be greatly appreciated.

[Shacker]

I guess it's a shame I didn't read/find this thread earlier......not sure if I would have done it differently though.

I just submitted a bug report after losing my 300+ bravery bonus on an EN CitW. Noticed it when I stepped in, submitted a ticket, GM came in and said he could do nothing, and that I should submit a bug report. Took screenshots of everything, not like it will help (Experience Report showing warning that bravery bonus would be broken, Adventure Compendium showing CitW already completed on EH, Experience Report after completing quest showing bravery bonus broken).

I also screenshotted my conversation with the GM. As a side note, and I apologize because this is probably the subject of numerous other threads, what a lame customer service model! The in-game GM "help" takes the time to get in touch with me shortly after submitting my ticket (I have to give kudos for this at least) only to tell me to submit a bug report. I think it's OK that an in-game GM can't actually fix the problem, but they should be able to handle the bug reporting function. It's bad customer service to ask a customer to double-report a problem that the company can't/won't do anything to fix (at least in the short-term).

[Forzah]

Luckily by then you have done most quests in the game already, so that the streak isn't that vital anymore :)

[Shacker]

Luckily by then you have done most quests in the game already, so that the streak isn't that vital anymore :)

You are right -- definitely not that big of a deal, and thumbs up to you Forzah for your positive attitude.

I am not always so positive though, and thought this would be a helpful reminder to those not aware of this bug (as I was not aware of it) as well as a little jab at Turbine's customer service model/capabilities.

[Vanshilar]

Not sure if this is the cause. But if you are level XP capped (i.e. can take level 25), the quests that you never touched while leveling up may keep incrementing your streak counter even if you've done them before -- so they may break your streak if you do them at a lower difficulty, even if you've done them before. You only get the streak bonus the first time you do a quest, but for those quests, subsequent runs can still increase (or decrease) your streak count.

[Dangered]

Quests that you did not do, before u hit 25 levels worth of xp will break streak count, when u redo it on a level below. However, it can continue to add streak count in this case.

Quest with a heroic counter part will not count for streak if u already did it in heroic.

Also, quests that show that you break streak Before completion, WILL break your streak.
Quests that do not show that you break streak, but indicates streak is broken in xp report when quest is done is just a visual bug.

I am not 100% sure about the following.
but the EE high road chain done out of order might cause streak to be reset when done in lower difficulty levels.

[Shacker]

Quests that you did not do, before u hit 25 levels worth of xp will break streak count, when u redo it on a level below. However, it can continue to add streak count in this case.

Quest with a heroic counter part will not count for streak if u already did it in heroic.

Also, quests that show that you break streak Before completion, WILL break your streak.
Quests that do not show that you break streak, but indicates streak is broken in xp report when quest is done is just a visual bug.

I am not 100% sure about the following.
but the EE high road chain done out of order might cause streak to be reset when done in lower difficulty levels.

I never heard that one before -- if you do a quest at say lvl 23 (like I think I was when I first did CitW on EH), your streak will be broken if you then do it on EN once you hit 25. Maybe there was a forum post(s) about this, but I guess I didn't see it. Either way, it's still a flawed system and sounds like a bug to me. I know this isn't the case with all quests, I did plenty on EH from levels 20-25 and did not lose my streak for going back and doing them on EN once I was 25.

[LOOON375]

The Druid chain reset my streaks on two different toons.

[goodspeed]

man the favor list doesn't even half work anymore. Let alone the game trying to remember anything other then HEY! WE GOT RECORDS YOU RAN THIS 5 TIMES! NO PENALTY FREE XP FO YOU!!

Keep it mind it will still show heroic elite no matter how many epics you've run but that's a mute point.

[Shade]

Been like this for all quests since U14.

Pretty much they couldn't be bothered to code the streak bonus prperly after it bugged in U14, so they just had it go on the visible "completion count" in the xp report.

That count will always be 0 once youve hit the level cap, if you didnt do said quest before you hit it (25 atm).

So yea I've run CiTW EE, Some 25+ EH, but decided to try a EN one day, and yea there it goes.

It's a dumb and pointless bonus anyways that does too much to encourage noobs to try things about there skill level. Should be deleted.

And yea the idea of "hey I have the highest streak" I though had some merit at first, before streaks lasted thru TRs or were so bugged to allow you to run them up running the same quest (bug works in revese too, you could complete a easy 5min quest a couple thousand times in a row if u really wanted to break the record).

[Shade]

man the favor list doesn't even half work anymore. Let alone the game trying to remember anything other then HEY! WE GOT RECORDS YOU RAN THIS 5 TIMES! NO PENALTY FREE XP FO YOU!!

Keep it mind it will still show heroic elite no matter how many epics you've run but that's a mute point.

Favor list is actually WAI, tho the WAI way is again, the lazy way out because the devs making it work per the original release notes was too hard/expensive.

Epic and non epic give the same amount of favor. So, Heroic Elite gives more then EC/EN/EH.

However if you run EE after HE, your favor report will properly update to indicate your completion (tho no more favor will be granted, and a relog may be neccesary to make it show up).

[Matuse]

I never heard that one before -- if you do a quest at say lvl 23 (like I think I was when I first did CitW on EH), your streak will be broken if you then do it on EN once you hit 25.

No, that's not how it works. If you run a quest at 23, then you can run it again at 25 with no impact on you streak.

If you wait until 25 to run a quest, then all runs of that quest are subject to the streak rules as if you've never run it before.

So run "Don't Drink the Water" for the first time at 25 on EE, and then immediately run it again on EH, and your Elite streak will break, and your Hard streak will be extended by one.

[cdr]

Basically, don't expect to have any streak at all at level 25 unless you want to run nothing but EE. I've long since given up on keeping streaks on my 25s.