Thank you for Mabar

[sandypaws]

I had concerns that gratitude might have been lost amidst the hundreds of threads identifying problems with spawns, drop rates, etc., so:

Thank you. Thank you for getting Mabar up in time for Halloween, even with Sandy and everything else thrown at you folks. It was amazing to have it up and running on a day when most facilities down where I am, which wasn't even hit very hard at all, were still shuttered.

[Qaliya]

Agreed. Has been a nice distraction for those of us worried about the election, too. :)

[EllisDee37]

Disagree completely. I found it to be in poor taste and remarkably lacking in empathy. Like millions of other people, I had no power or internet for days and days. Specifically, I lost all services Monday night, fibnally got power back Saturday afternoon and then phone/internet/cable was restored this (Tuesday) afternoon, 8 days after I went dark. So I completely missed out on half of Mabar this year due to Sandy.

I was quite surprised they opted to run an event while so many people were clearly unable to get online or even heat their homes. Personally I think it was in poor taste.

[Brendae]

Yeah, on Friday and Saturday the 4-9 instance was working perfectly and spawning the correct CR mobs. It was a great time and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

The rest of the time the nagging guilt about ruining at level spawns in the 8-12 instance ruined things a bit.

[Kareena]

Yes, despite various lag and bugs i really enjoyed mabar. Managed to figure out how to get a decent mote/hour ratio and actually got all the things I had planned on getting :)

I hope you guys continue to work on smoothing out the issues, but please continue to promote events. It helps me enjoy the game immensely breaking up some monotony. Mabar is one of my favorite and I hope to see it back for a visit later this month. :)


Thank you.

[teh_meh]

Same. It was fun to boot around in there for a bit. Appreciate the effort devs, especially during the hurricane.

[ddo.rsmo.pt]

Disagree completely. I found it to be in poor taste and remarkably lacking in empathy. Like millions of other people, I had no power or internet for days and days.

Although I sympathize with the drama that happened over there, and understand that you feel the world should stop and pay attention to your problem, unfortunately the world doesn't stop. As probably you never felt the need to stop playing a game when there is an earthquake in China, or a Tsunami in Japan, or major storms in Europe.

I'm glad that in the end, you are alive and kicking to complain about some game, I hope you and your family recover well from Sandy.

Carry on.

[Cyiwin]

Add me to the thank you list, despite the problems I had fun with Mabar and I know a lot of effort was made to get it out by Halloween.

[bartharok]

my thanks for mabar as well, it made me some money even though i didnt have the time to farm for items

[Cyiwin]

Although I sympathize with the drama that happened over there, and understand that you feel the world should stop and pay attention to your problem, unfortunately the world doesn't stop. As probably you never felt the need to stop playing a game when there is an earthquake in China, or a Tsunami in Japan, or major storms in Europe.

I'm glad that in the end, you are alive and kicking to complain about some game, I hope you and your family recover well from Sandy.

Carry on.

And well said BTW.

[EllisDee37]

Although I sympathize with the drama that happened over there, and understand that you feel the world should stop and pay attention to your problem, unfortunately the world doesn't stop. As probably you never felt the need to stop playing a game when there is an earthquake in China, or a Tsunami in Japan, or major storms in Europe.This is an American game made by a company who was in the path of the same storm that I'm talking about. It's hardly a matter of something halfway around the world.

I do feel that people in the storm should stop and pay attention to the storm, yes absolutely. And I don't think that's remotely unreasonable.

EDIT: if you recall, they cancelled their scheduled maintenance last Monday because of the storm. As in, the storm they were concerned was coming at them. Hardly an earthquake in China in terms of immediate personal relevance.

If this were a Japanese game, and the home offices were within easy driving distance of the devastation caused by the tsunami last year or the year before, I would fully expect them to not hold a once-a-year event in the immediate aftermath of the tsunami. That would strike me as inappropriate and disrespectful.

[Bzzzt]

This is an American game made by a company who was in the path of the same storm that I'm talking about. It's hardly a matter of something halfway around the world.



Turbine is bringing Mabar back later in November, after u16...

[bartharok]

This is an American game made by a company who was in the path of the same storm that I'm talking about. It's hardly a matter of something halfway around the world.

I do feel that people in the storm should stop and pay attention to the storm, yes absolutely. And I don't think that's remotely unreasonable.

EDIT: if you recall, they cancelled their scheduled maintenance last Monday because of the storm. As in, the storm they were concerned was coming at them. Hardly an earthquake in China in terms of immediate personal relevance.

If this were a Japanese game, and the home offices were within easy driving distance of the devastation caused by the tsunami last year or the year before, I would fully expect them to not hold a once-a-year event in the immediate aftermath of the tsunami. That would strike me as inappropriate and disrespectful.

Then it would. They could keep the game going so they did. Nothing disrespectful about it.

[ddo.rsmo.pt]

This is an American game made by a company who was in the path of the same storm that I'm talking about. It's hardly a matter of something halfway around the world.

Thanks for the reply.

You may also consider that, for the Turbine people, getting Mabar up and running despite the problems (both software and hardware related), was a way of them fighting Sandy and coming through. Just a matter of perspective.

Carry on.

[EllisDee37]

They could keep the game going so they did. Nothing disrespectful about it.
I didn't suggest shutting the game down. I suggested that maybe when 8 million of your neighbors (and potential customers) lose power for up to a week, don't run your yearly event during that week. Maybe waiting til Monday might have been the classier move.

Maybe as a company you could demonstrate some empathy for people in your area.

[Shtinkie]

I'll join the ranks of those that appreciate your efforts and achievements. Great job DDO team. Especially at such a turbulent time. Thank you for Mabar and the game in general.

[Bzzzt]

I didn't suggest shutting the game down. I suggested that maybe when 8 million of your neighbors (and potential customers) lose power for up to a week, don't run your yearly event during that week. Maybe waiting til Monday might have been the classier move.

Maybe as a company you could demonstrate some empathy for people in your area.

And what about all the other customers that are unaffected, should Turbine delay their plans for people who planned vacation time around Mabar and just so happened to live outside of the area of Sandy's influence? I'm sure the people in Germany would appreciate the fact that Turbine was so considerate.

Second point, Mabar was finally ended today and has been promised again, later in November. This, more then anything, seems to be a fair compromise. I didn't loose power due to Sandy, I appreciated being able to do my Mabar farming despite the hurricane. You missed over half of Mabar, good news, Turbine is bringing it back (in such a time frame as everyone should be settled from Sandy and able to farm it!)!

./bellyache?

[EllisDee37]

And what about all the other customers that are unaffected, should Turbine delay their plans for people who planned vacation time around Mabar and just so happened to live outside of the area of Sandy's influence?People who planned their vacation time around Mabar fared no better, as Mabar started a week later than it was scheduled. That ship had already sailed.


I'm sure the people in Germany would appreciate the fact that Turbine was so considerate.As was pointed out earlier in the thread, nobody cares what happens halfway around the world. That's just part of human nature. However, most people do care what happens in their own backyard, and Sandy happened in Turbine's back yard.


Second point, Mabar was finally ended today and has been promised again, later in November. This, more then anything, seems to be a fair compromise. I didn't loose power due to Sandy, I appreciated being able to do my Mabar farming despite the hurricane. You missed over half of Mabar, good news, Turbine is bringing it back (in such a time frame as everyone should be settled from Sandy and able to farm it!)!Sure, now that everybody else is all farmed out, how about for the late November run Turbine gives a nod to Sandy victims and sets the instance turn-in to 10k instead of 15k since so many fewer people will be farming motes.

I got online 14 hours ago. The Mabar instance has run twice in those 14 hours, and only once in the past 12 hours.

[bartharok]

People who planned their vacation time around Mabar fared no better, as Mabar started a week later than it was scheduled. That ship had already sailed.

As was pointed out earlier in the thread, nobody cares what happens halfway around the world. That's just part of human nature. However, most people do care what happens in their own backyard, and Sandy happened in Turbine's back yard.

Sure, now that everybody else is all farmed out, how about for the late November run Turbine gives a nod to Sandy victims and sets the instance turn-in to 10k instead of 15k since so many fewer people will be farming motes.

I got online 14 hours ago. The Mabar instance has run twice in those 14 hours, and only once in the past 12 hours.

So, why should the customers who didnt lose their internet care about your complaints, you live halfway across the world. And you seem to be more concerned about you missing out on Mabar than anything else. Dressing it in fancy clothes and claiming something about respecting the victims is just plain disrespectful.

[Coyopa]

People who planned their vacation time around Mabar fared no better, as Mabar started a week later than it was scheduled. That ship had already sailed.

As was pointed out earlier in the thread, nobody cares what happens halfway around the world. That's just part of human nature. However, most people do care what happens in their own backyard, and Sandy happened in Turbine's back yard.

Sure, now that everybody else is all farmed out, how about for the late November run Turbine gives a nod to Sandy victims and sets the instance turn-in to 10k instead of 15k since so many fewer people will be farming motes.

I got online 14 hours ago. The Mabar instance has run twice in those 14 hours, and only once in the past 12 hours.

In other news...stupid troll is stupid. Film at 11!

[EllisDee37]

So, why should the customers who didnt lose their internet care about your complaints, you live halfway across the world. They shouldn't, of course. Turbine should, though, because Turbine isn't halfway around the world. Turbine is right here.

[Bzzzt]

They shouldn't, of course. Turbine should, though, because Turbine isn't halfway around the world. Turbine is right here.

And isn't that why Mabar is coming back later in November? Because Turbine is caring?

[Talam]

I loved MABAR, except because of the delay I missed getting all the scales I needed early on. It seems like everyone got their scales early. I tried for the last 3 days, and each time I entered the SC there weren't enough people to complete it (this happened 4 separate times). Lost EK, and no scales. If there's not at least 16 people in the chamber it should just kick you and return the EK. Or, better yet, make it a reason people want to do the SC even if they have their scales, i.e. make the scales worth something to those who already have them, like allow them to be converted to motes, or make lots of motes drop while fighting for scales, etc.... Something. Bottom line, I'm helpless to get my final items because I can't get enough people to do the dragon fight with me. All people in the zone are interested in are the mote camping. Any ideas? Help please Turbine.

[Double_O]

It worked well, I spent allot of TP on Pots and Coffee.... and had a blast... TY

OP/signed

[Gloreindl]

Turbine has closed Mabar already? Many of us here in the areas where superstorm Sandy hit (and Nor'easter Athena is currently hitting) are just getting our power back. We didn't get power till late yesterday, and many friends still are without power, that is if they have homes left (some 40K people lost everything). Why couldn't Turbine leave it up for a few weeks given how the widespread power outages here on Long Island, NJ NYC and parts of upstate NY and CT are on the news every day? I was looking forward to the festival as a way to get my mind off everything that has happened over the last week and a half. :(

[justagame]

I am still without power and heat at home, but I don't begrudge anyone holding or running this, that's silly. Play on, the rest of us will join back in when we can. If not in time for Mabar, there's always the next event.

[Krelar]

Turbine has closed Mabar already? Many of us here in the areas where superstorm Sandy hit (and Nor'easter Athena is currently hitting) are just getting our power back. We didn't get power till late yesterday, and many friends still are without power, that is if they have homes left (some 40K people lost everything). Why couldn't Turbine leave it up for a few weeks given how the widespread power outages here on Long Island, NJ NYC and parts of upstate NY and CT are on the news every day? I was looking forward to the festival as a way to get my mind off everything that has happened over the last week and a half. :(


I am still without power and heat at home, but I don't begrudge anyone holding or running this, that's silly. Play on, the rest of us will join back in when we can. If not in time for Mabar, there's always the next event.

Fear not!



Once we have our fixes in place, we will patch the festival during Update 16 on November 12th. With the updates applied, there will be an encore of the festival closer to the Thanksgiving holiday - while pumpkins are still fashionable before Festivult time rolls into town. We apologize for the inconvenience, and look forward to bringing Mabar back with the corrections.

[Silverleafeon]

Thank you, indeed!

High praise for the Devs for keeping things going during difficult times.

I believe Mabar was shut down early to enable fixes to the software during the update 16.
The orginal stop date was Nov 12?
Perhaps the thanksgiving Mabar should have extra days thrown in?

[G_Lich]

Thanks for the 4 (24) Cloaks 2 (20) wraps and the massive loot from trading motes - No thanks for making solo more profitable than grouping by a wide margin, No thanks for not letting me play on my 20+ toons for a decent ROI on time. It was a grind, but at least cove is a fun grind because I'm grouped, Mabar was a chore but the payouts were worth it.

If you can squeeze in a rare undead turkey for the Thanksgiving Mabar event that drops "Rotting Waddles" worth 100+ motes - you will have totally redeemed yourself.

[DocBenway]

If you can squeeze in a rare undead turkey for the Thanksgiving Mabar event that drops "Rotting Waddles" worth 100+ motes - you will have totally redeemed yourself.

I totally suggested defend Nash Braza's Farm from the Zombie Turkey Hordes instead, when Mabar came back for US Thanksgiving in 2010. Well, I responded to someone asking why Mabar was back with the planned Braza event being bugged, so Mabar was consolation event.
:p

[jillora]

I loved MABAR, except because of the delay I missed getting all the scales I needed early on. It seems like everyone got their scales early. I tried for the last 3 days, and each time I entered the SC there weren't enough people to complete it (this happened 4 separate times). Lost EK, and no scales. If there's not at least 16 people in the chamber it should just kick you and return the EK. Or, better yet, make it a reason people want to do the SC even if they have their scales, i.e. make the scales worth something to those who already have them, like allow them to be converted to motes, or make lots of motes drop while fighting for scales, etc.... Something. Bottom line, I'm helpless to get my final items because I can't get enough people to do the dragon fight with me. All people in the zone are interested in are the mote camping. Any ideas? Help please Turbine.

I disagree with kicking you out if there aren't more than 16 people. I tried it 8 times and only failed twice. There were less than 16 people in all but the last two times. It was a lot easier with more people, and but didn't seem particularly hard with fewer. One of the completions has 1 person on each lever and altar,barely enough.;)

I echo the thanks. This was my first Mabar and I can't wait for the encore to get gear for some of my alts. I didn't get into it until Saturday night so there just wasn't enough time.

[wonko_the_sane]

I love this event and was amazed and thankful it was up in time to be played on Halloween night.

THANKS!!

This game rocks.

[Badnade]

I also would like to say thanks for Mabar.

Sadly, I am still without power / heat / water at home, and was not able to log on for Mabar this holloween. I also was unable to enjoy kids trick or treating, or "spooky" halloween movies this year too.. So while my areas misfortunes ruined the whole holiday, I do think that holding Mabar, despite bugs, spawn rates, and power outages (in Turbine's "backyard") (boston is not in NJ btw...) was the right choice. Turbine has also said they would bring Mabar back in a bit, with fixes, so those who missed out can enjoy. Again, thanks DEVS.

This is a nice change in the way Turbine has cared for its customer.

An update ago, I would have never expected and encore run of Mabar.

An update ago, I would have expected Turbine to shut down servers to keep costs down while server population was low. "less money coming in?.. shut it down.. ill call FEMA.."

This is EXACTLY what Turbine should be doing.. Im VERY happy to see it being done.

Thank you DEVS, for restoring some of my faith in you as people.

Thank you for helping those who missed out.

Thank you for not stopping Mabar while the power is out.

[FestusHood]

As was pointed out earlier in the thread, nobody cares what happens halfway around the world. That's just part of human nature. However, most people do care what happens in their own backyard, and Sandy happened in Turbine's back yard.


And yes, this belongs on a clipboard under the heading 'why do people hate americans'.

[The-Old-Man]

I was quite surprised they opted to run an event while so many people were clearly unable to get online or even heat their homes. Personally I think it was in poor taste.

I really feel for you, but did you feel the same way last year when the Gulf Coast was hit with yet another Hurricane, and had no power or internet for days?

Probably not. You sat at home joyfully playing games, chatting, posting, etc. Your life went on, while others did without.

That, my friend, is the way of the world. The real one and the gaming one. If everything else stopped because of a crisis somewhere else, nothing would ever get done. You would never be able to play DDO, Mabar, The Cove, or anything else.

Your biggest priorities should have been helping friends and neighbors in a time or crisis, and not about what am I missing on the internet.

[EllisDee37]

I really feel for you, but did you feel the same way last year when the Gulf Coast was hit with yet another Hurricane, and had no power or internet for days?If they were running a yearly event during that, then yes I would have.


That, my friend, is the way of the world. The real one and the gaming one. If everything else stopped because of a crisis somewhere else, nothing would ever get done. You would never be able to play DDO, Mabar, The Cove, or anything else.Again, not talking about taking the game offline. Just talking about rushing out a limited-run yearly event.


Your biggest priorities should have been helping friends and neighbors in a time or crisis, and not about what am I missing on the internet.Who says I wasn't? The entire 8 days I was offline I was completely unconcerned about Mabar because I couldn't even conceive that they would have run it in the aftermath of Sandy, mainly because Sandy also effected them. (They scrapped that Monday's maintenance due to Sandy.) I would have bet the farm they'd pushed it back to this past Monday since when I went offline the previous Monday there was still no ETA on them even getting Mabar to work at all.

[Zeldarr]

I had concerns that gratitude might have been lost amidst the hundreds of threads identifying problems with spawns, drop rates, etc., so:

Thank you. Thank you for getting Mabar up in time for Halloween, even with Sandy and everything else thrown at you folks. It was amazing to have it up and running on a day when most facilities down where I am, which wasn't even hit very hard at all, were still shuttered.

I personally have no use for Mabar and avoid it like the plague. However, I certainly don't have a problem with other people enjoying it and I appreciate the fact that you made this post. Thanks for keeping it positive in here.

[shibe]

I also want to thank you. It gave me a chance to play an event and demolish undead for hours and pick up some cool stuff. I am just wondering what to do with my left over motes :) I usually solo but partied up with a new folks and learned a few things.

[illusion28]

Yes, thanks indeed for such a nice event.

Everything is never perfect, i's just expected to be the best it can be, and I'm really happy with the way Mabar worked. Bits of issues but lots of fun.

And I'm sorry for those who weren't able to be early because of severe weather conditions, but I don't think that we can think that Turbine would've postponed the event, there are millions of players all over the world, their best bet to keep everyone happy is to extend it or, reopen it later.

Still, thanks Turbine for all this fun :)

[sharachan]

Sure, now that everybody else is all farmed out, how about for the late November run Turbine gives a nod to Sandy victims and sets the instance turn-in to 10k instead of 15k since so many fewer people will be farming motes.

I got online 14 hours ago. The Mabar instance has run twice in those 14 hours, and only once in the past 12 hours.

So the fact that people died, and it will take years to recover is overshadowed by the fact that you missed out on the best farming periodes?

[NyteByrd1017]

I want to say thank you for Mabar. As usual, it was a blast. Looking forward to the next Mabar event.

[Coyopa]

So the fact that people died, and it will take years to recover is overshadowed by the fact that you missed out on the best farming periodes?

Yes, that is the crux of his gripe when you take all his posts in this thread together.

[karsion]

Disagree completely. I found it to be in poor taste and remarkably lacking in empathy. Like millions of other people, I had no power or internet for days and days. Specifically, I lost all services Monday night, fibnally got power back Saturday afternoon and then phone/internet/cable was restored this (Tuesday) afternoon, 8 days after I went dark. So I completely missed out on half of Mabar this year due to Sandy.

I was quite surprised they opted to run an event while so many people were clearly unable to get online or even heat their homes. Personally I think it was in poor taste.

So to show solidarity they should turn off their own electricity and heating? Wow, the logic of your complaint is mind boggling.

Add to the fact that any time the game is offline becomes a potential loss of the revenue and clients and it makes your post even sillier.

[Stealthdog]

After the early glitches were identified, I enjoyed Mabar again this year and look forward to seeing it again during Thanksgiving. Thanks Turbine! :)

[BigButter]

I also had a very good time this year in Mabar. Got to run some builds through that did not exist for the previous one. I even respec'd my lvl 22 PM to quasi-nuker but due to the spawn/instance problems, I just dropped back to my lvl 18 earth savant and thoroughly enjoyed it!