What's a good undead beater for a level 16 pally?

[Qaliya]

I'm Mabaring a bit and currently using a Fury of the Flame, which is working pretty well. I also have a GS maul, but it's only level 2.

Anything else I should consider that's reasonably easy to get?

[Dysmetria]

I'm Mabaring a bit and currently using a Fury of the Flame, which is working pretty well. I also have a GS maul, but it's only level 2.

Anything else I should consider that's reasonably easy to get?Any weapon with disruption on it should work better than most anything else. An undead guard item will help too.

[Meetch1972]

When I was far from rich I bought some Holy Sword spell component (blanks) from Featherfall's Apothecary and used the Holy Sword spell for my all round evil beater... :)

[Daemoneyes]

Electric of Disruption are nice

For undead guard, you might want to check out the Challenge Armor.
But it could end up as more grind then Mabar ^^

[visibleman]

Or you could make a GreenSteel weapon: Holy, Goos Blast, Good Burst and Greater Disruption.

Shroud Loot Planner: Hammer of Undead Doom (http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~delallea/ddo/shroud/cgi-bin/shroud.cgi?item=item&weapon=warhammer&effects=great_disr_,__good,_good,holy&altar=3)

[Kawai]

Ever see a Half Orc pull out his Dual Halflings?
...scarey.

[Mastikator]

A triple positive GS maul with holy, good burst, good blast is probably the best undead beater at any level.

[MRMechMan]

A triple positive GS maul with holy, good burst, good blast is probably the best undead beater at any level.

That. But, consider 30% amp in place of the good blast.

Good blast is 1.5 damage/swing on a x3/20 weapon (maul w/out IC:B). 30% amp probably is a better choice, particularly given how few 30% amp items there are, and NONE when TRing.

[Qaliya]

Thanks for the suggestions. Can't make a GS as I don't have shards and am not flagged yet on this life.

[thouston]

That. But, consider 30% amp in place of the good blast.


^^^ thats how i built mine

[Mastikator]

Thanks for the suggestions. Can't make a GS as I don't have shards and am not flagged yet on this life.
A basic +5 something of Smiting will go a long way.

A fury of the flame deals on average:
1d10 x3/19-20 = ~6.6
+4 enhance
+4.6 flaming burst
+3.5 light
+5.5 weapon
+7 vs skeletals
A total of 20.2 damage on average against non-skeletal undead (not including PA, strength etc bonuses) and 27.2 against skeletals

A +5 Maul Of Smiting will deal an average:
1d10 x3/20 = 6.05
+5 enhance
+19 smiting (4*3.5+100/20 = 19)
A total of 30.05 average against ALL undead

Vampires take double damage from light AFAIK and maybe extra from fire (not sure), which may lead to Fury Of The Flame being better against those, any undead with DR/Adamantite will also give you an advantage to Fury, but those don't exist AFAIK.

So yeah, get a smiter. Smiters are awesome.

Edit-
Probably gave too much damage to Fury Of The Flame, since the Impact means nothing against undead beyond the Flaming Burst bonus.

[elraido]

A basic +5 something of Smiting will go a long way.

A fury of the flame deals on average:
1d10 x3/19-20 = ~6.6
+4 enhance
+4.6 flaming burst
+3.5 light
+5.5 weapon
+7 vs skeletals
A total of 20.2 damage on average against non-skeletal undead (not including PA, strength etc bonuses) and 27.2 against skeletals

A +5 Maul Of Smiting will deal an average:
1d10 x3/20 = 6.05
+5 enhance
+19 smiting (4*3.5+100/20 = 19)
A total of 30.05 average against ALL undead

Vampires take double damage from light AFAIK and maybe extra from fire (not sure), which may lead to Fury Of The Flame being better against those, any undead with DR/Adamantite will also give you an advantage to Fury, but those don't exist AFAIK.

So yeah, get a smiter. Smiters are awesome.

Edit-
Probably gave too much damage to Fury Of The Flame, since the Impact means nothing against undead beyond the Flaming Burst bonus.

Disruption.

[Feralthyrtiaq]

a pair of +2 Holy of Undead Bane Handwraps ml9 just for mabar fun on my 10 (2Monk/8Pal) with <50 in each school.

I have ghost touch as HotD so I skipped the +x Ghost Touch of Greater Incorporeal Bane I could have made (with a swap to a higher crafting level toon)

Unless you can find something similar on AH just craft yourself up something temporary until you can choose a better option listed in above posts.

[Uma-Quixote]

A basic +5 something of Smiting will go a long way.

A fury of the flame deals on average:
1d10 x3/19-20 = ~6.6
+4 enhance
+4.6 flaming burst
+3.5 light
+5.5 weapon
+7 vs skeletals
A total of 20.2 damage on average against non-skeletal undead (not including PA, strength etc bonuses) and 27.2 against skeletals

A +5 Maul Of Smiting will deal an average:
1d10 x3/20 = 6.05
+5 enhance
+19 smiting (4*3.5+100/20 = 19)
A total of 30.05 average against ALL undead

Vampires take double damage from light AFAIK and maybe extra from fire (not sure), which may lead to Fury Of The Flame being better against those, any undead with DR/Adamantite will also give you an advantage to Fury, but those don't exist AFAIK.

So yeah, get a smiter. Smiters are awesome.

Edit-
Probably gave too much damage to Fury Of The Flame, since the Impact means nothing against undead beyond the Flaming Burst bonus.

Since when did smiters do damage against undead? I thought they only do the vorpal damage versus constructs.

[unbongwah]

I think a lot of people are missing the fact that the OP is looking for something easy to acquire so he can use it for Mabar farming. Telling him to farm up a GS whatever is impractical given time constraints.

If you're S&B, what about Templar's Justice / Retribution? Find an arty willing to buff you with Silver weapons for vamp-beating purposes. It's not ideal, but shouldn't take long to farm it from Spinner.

Otherwise, shop the AH for Holy Burst of Disruption or whatever you can find.

[Qaliya]

Thanks for the replies. I'm assuming Mastikator meant disruption and not smiting.

I didn't realize how much more damage that would do than what I am currently using.

I'll scan the AH.

[voodoogroves]

Holy of Disrupt are things I commonly search for on the AH, just to have.

[Qaliya]

Well, I found a +3 greatsword of disruption, but that's it. :) (I fight 2H.)

I guess the time to look for an ideal weapon was last week.

[unbongwah]

Silver lining: you can start shopping for next year's Mabar. :D

[Paryan]

If you have access to cannith challenges or saved free tokens, mournlode weapons may be a good route to go as well.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Mournlode_Weapons

[Qaliya]

Yeah but I don't know what class I will be then. :)

I did consider the mournlode, I have some random components around. But I'm not sure how they stack up to the disruption.

[unbongwah]

Pretty sure Disruption is better overall than Mournlode: +4d6 per hit & instakill or +100 dmg on vorpals vs +4d6+2 per hit & +2d10 on 10% of atks (presuming GA or maul w/Imp Crit). The vamps will take extra light dmg from Mournlode, but without silver buff their DR makes it kind of a wash, I think.

[Qaliya]

Using the disrupter now for a test. Hard to tell how much better it is because of the randomness.

Does a disruption hit always show "-100" even if the instakill activates. I see it all the time even on mobs mostly dead and was thinking this meant they were always saving against the instakill, but some of them show "-100" and then die and seem to have a lot more than 100 hp.

[Celastelin]

Does a disruption hit always show "-100" even if the instakill activates. .

Yes it does.

[Karavek]

gave one new playing friend a simple sickle of disruption and it made his day. My other friend who is newish to the game is dual wielding scimitar and long sword of disruption I lent him and he is doing very well.

I run around on my clonkcher with the lvl 16 wraps from mabar last year, as well as a holy long sword of disruption and shocking short sword of disruption and an acid bow of disruption. I like to be well geared for my anti undead based character.

[G_Lich]

Pretty sure Disruption is better overall than Mournlode: +4d6 per hit & instakill or +100 dmg on vorpals vs +4d6+2 per hit & +2d10 on 10% of atks (presuming GA or maul w/Imp Crit). The vamps will take extra light dmg from Mournlode, but without silver buff their DR makes it kind of a wash, I think.


Craftable +3 tier 3 ML:16 version allows you to put in Metalline (+3 still?) and a masterful craftsmanship shard so it should be ML:20 but a good vamp beater. Sorry it's not necessarily helpful for a 16 Pally but it's a thought.

[IronClan]

Buy cannith crafting shards from the AH: +3 holy, greater undead bane, a Mark of making -2ml and put them on a maul or Warhammer(s). For an ml15 If the mark is too expensive on the AH just do a +2 enhancement. No mark, cheap crafting ings might even get someone to make you shards for free. Put them on a silver blank.

Cheap quick and easy op wasn't asking for perfect min/max.

[Qaliya]

I remembered that I hoard stuff and I had a +1 unholy greataxe of greater undead bane with icy burst in the bank. It worked pretty well but at my level I get a lot of frostmarrows and the green numbers were bugging me. :)

The +3 greataxe of disruption seems to be working pretty well. I'll stick with that for now.

Thanks for the suggestions.

[Ungood]

I was going to suggest for ease of getting a Mourlode Blunt-Weapon ML16

Very sweet undead killer and if you have the junk to make it, you may as well.

[sirgog]

I recommend the following:

1x Slashing weapon of Disruption with Holy, Vicious, Flaming, Flaming Burst, Shock or Shocking Burst as a prefix (some other rare prefixes work well too but these are the good ones)

1x Blunt weapon with the same setup.

Disruption is so far ahead of the next best suffix (Greater Undead Bane) that it is not even close.

[voodoogroves]

What server are you looking for this on?

I tend to horde q-staff and other blunt holy/disrupt items and have spares all over the place.

[Qaliya]

What server are you looking for this on?

I tend to horde q-staff and other blunt holy/disrupt items and have spares all over the place.

Thanks for the offer! I'm on Sarlona. I have a greataxe disruptor right now but there don't seem to be any mauls around. :)