Update 16: Leveling Event #2 - Quests!

[SqueakofDoom]

Hello! It's about time for another Lamannia Event! For this event, I would like everyone to play through the new U16 Quests in the High Road Adventure Area. We would greatly appreciate your feedback on this new content!

Of course you need things to run these quests, so I will be waiting for you in Eveningstar (perhaps with a few others) on the following days and times to distribute Heroic/Epic Experience, Plat, and to fill the Auction House with loot! Additionally, there will be a Door to Eveningstar placed in the Harbor near the Founder's Fountain to assist your arrival.

Friday, October 19th from 7pm to 9pm

Saturday, October 20th from 9am to 11am

All times are Eastern (GMT-4)

Smiles!

[Dawnsfire]

Since you have not wiped the characters on lam, no one I have there can get to Eveningstar. I refused to spend hours running 4 different quests just to be eligible to do so. Thank you for the invite but I decline to RSVP.

[Systern]

Thank you for the invite but I decline to RSVP.


Hello! It's about time for another Lamannia Event! For this event, I would like everyone to play through the new U16 Quests in the High Road Adventure Area. We would greatly appreciate your feedback on this new content!

Of course you need things to run these quests, so I will be waiting for you in Eveningstar (perhaps with a few others) on the following days and times to distribute Heroic/Epic Experience, Plat, and to fill the Auction House with loot! Additionally, there will be a Door to Eveningstar placed in the Harbor near the Founder's Fountain to assist your arrival.

Friday, October 19th from 7pm to 9pm

Saturday, October 20th from 9am to 11am

All times are Eastern (GMT-4)

Smiles!

Reading is essential to participating in a forum.

[Buttkierownsmade]

Thank you squeakofdoom!!! I need another event or 2 haa... you guys complaining about the character wipe that's not gonna happen anytime soon.... NEVA!!!

[shadereaper33]

Reading is essential to participating in a forum.

The point still stands though. The last character wipe I heard of was back when U14 was still on lamma, it stands to reason that a large portion of the player base has made a fair amount of progress since then. Why would we want to take characters that are 6 months out of date to test new content with? That is the single reason why I do not currently have lammania installed, and I won't have it installed until they actually do a character wipe so I can get my updated characters over there.

[Terebinthia]

Folks, while I agree a wipe would lead to better feedback, particularly on the harder difficulties, epic casual was completely unthreatening to my not massively geared fvs, and the High Road is fine also. So it is worth giving feedback even if you dont have a toon all destinied up.

[Fefnir_2011]

The point still stands though. The last character wipe I heard of was back when U14 was still on lamma, it stands to reason that a large portion of the player base has made a fair amount of progress since then. Why would we want to take characters that are 6 months out of date to test new content with? That is the single reason why I do not currently have lammania installed, and I won't have it installed until they actually do a character wipe so I can get my updated characters over there.

Testing on Lammania is about testing the new content. It's not about playing with the new toys on your toons, so I fail to see why you need that exact version of your toon to run the quests.

[Dawnsfire]

Reading is essential to participating in a forum.

D'oh. I very much agree and regret my snark. I will however leave it up so others can laugh at me. Maybe it will remind me to read before I gab :o

[Dawnsfire]

Thank you squeakofdoom!!! I need another event or 2 haa... you guys complaining about the character wipe that's not gonna happen anytime soon.... NEVA!!!

It makes no sense for to keep going without a wipe. Most folks prefer to test new stuff on current characters. Not pale copies of what they once were. Dev events get lots of folks attention simply because of the fun stuff devs do. But how many bother to show between events?

I know I spend very little time testing on Lam these days because I'm not going to grind all the gear I have now on test characters. I suspect I am far from the only one.

[cdbd3rd]

... you guys complaining about the character wipe that's not gonna happen anytime soon.... NEVA!!!

Sure it will - right after I go back over there again and get another character actually XP'd and Geared.
So while I stay away, your characters are safe.

...You're welcome. :D




....

Smiles!


I tried hearing that in Rourke's 'Fantasy Island' intro speech voice - but it keeps coming across all squeaky-sounding. :p

[Dawnsfire]

Testing on Lammania is about testing the new content. It's not about playing with the new toys on your toons, so I fail to see why you need that exact version of your toon to run the quests.

Testing the new content? Probably not. The new ED? I absolutely do.

[sirgog]

Testing on Lammania is about testing the new content. It's not about playing with the new toys on your toons, so I fail to see why you need that exact version of your toon to run the quests.

So that you can give honest feedback on difficulty having run quests on a toon you know how to play well.

I know I'd overestimate quest difficulty if I was playing it on a toon I hadn't played in six months.

[mystafyi]

So that you can give honest feedback on difficulty having run quests on a toon you know how to play well.

I highly doubt turbine cares one bit about feedback anymore. besides, lamma isnt a test server, live is.

bug reporting tool - broken since inception. lamma character copy - broken for so long most forgot when it worked. exit survey - broken.

~shrugs~

[BruceTheHoon]

I highly doubt turbine cares one bit about feedback anymore. besides, lamma isnt a test server, live is.

bug reporting tool - broken since inception. lamma character copy - broken for so long most forgot when it worked. exit survey - broken.

~shrugs~

Sounds like everything is broken, except exaggerations.

[mystafyi]

Sounds like everything is broken, except exaggerations.

sadly, I exagerated nothing. the 3 things I listed are and have been broken. the fact that they have to do with gathering feedback is just the icing on the cake.

[lucreciacrescent]

how about those who can't enter evening star due to low level? w/o a key to evening star

[MrkGrismer]

how about those who can't enter evening star due to low level? w/o a key to evening star

Well... I guess it bears repeating, again and again:


Additionally, there will be a Door to Eveningstar placed in the Harbor near the Founder's Fountain to assist your arrival.

[Buttkierownsmade]

Hey! thanks that's nice of you after all that work I put into my toons I hear they are safe

[AlexMonk]

I have to agree that a wipe is long overdue. Several of us from Khyber have chosen to skip all events/testing on the server until a wipe is done. Granted we number only about 20, but perhaps a dev will read this and choose to listen anyway.

[stoopid_cowboy]

I have to agree that a wipe is long overdue. Several of us from Khyber have chosen to skip all events/testing on the server until a wipe is done. Granted we number only about 20, but perhaps a dev will read this and choose to listen anyway.

I couldn't agree more....

Why would I want to go test quests on a character(s) that I have not played in MONTHS? Not to mention MONTHS worth of work to level ED's and gather gear.

Dev's. thank you for the invite, but no thanks...

If you want open honest feedback, allow us players the tools to do that.

yuda :(

[My2Cents]

In my opinion testing is about helping improve the game and about a cooperative attitude towards that goal. I'm sure the development team has more important things to do than spend their time dealing with unnecessary drama about this.

I'd much rather see a mechanism to allow transfers from live via overwrite or some other mechanism than have a wipe. I really don't want to go through yet another XP event and regearing, etc.

More important than my own petty little desires, its essential to test all aspects of the leveling/building experience as it exercises very important parts of the game - enhancements, lowbie quests, new items, etc..etc.. Without such testing, DDO would be in very big trouble.

Say, can those who want to transfer their toons from live but already have them here on Lamma buy a rename token in the Lamma store and rename, then copy their toon over from live?

Remember, a character copy that claims to fail may not have failed. Be sure to check.

[Don1966]

i can't participate due to the fact the lamannia ddo store comes up as a black screen and thus i can't buy the new pack.

[MrkGrismer]

In my opinion testing is about helping improve the game and about a cooperative attitude towards that goal. I'm sure the development team has more important things to do than spend their time dealing with unnecessary drama about this.

I'd much rather see a mechanism to allow transfers from live via overwrite or some other mechanism than have a wipe. I really don't want to go through yet another XP event and regearing, etc.

More important than my own petty little desires, its essential to test all aspects of the leveling/building experience as it exercises very important parts of the game - enhancements, lowbie quests, new items, etc..etc.. Without such testing, DDO would be in very big trouble.

Say, can those who want to transfer their toons from live but already have them here on Lamma buy a rename token in the Lamma store and rename, then copy their toon over from live?

Remember, a character copy that claims to fail may not have failed. Be sure to check.

The devs have stated before that the only way to allow people to retransfer a character over is to whipe the entire Lam server. Apparently it is not possible to implement a 'retry' mechanism for failed character copies.


Unfortunately, the only way to allow individuals to reattempt a failed character transfer would be to wipe the entire server clean.

[My2Cents]

Is the transfer failing because a character of the same name already exists on Lamma?

[Buttkierownsmade]

thank you devs for not wipping the server...

[BOgre]

The other obvious reason for a wipe is that xp/loot events are a brutally narrow window that not everyone can make. Its ludicrous to only grace XP to those few that can by chance happen to be ingame at the same time as the devs. Why limit us this way? Either do a wipe, or give all comers regardless of preferred play time the same XP. Put an XP fountain next to the quest givers or something. Oh yeah, and maybe fix the ingame bug reporting tool?

edit: actually, here's a thought I'm sure has been mentioned before: Fix it so character wipe is optional, up to the player. I can go to the character copy page and pick which lamma toon I'd like to wipe, then when he's wiped I can copy my current character. Can't be much different code-wise than the existing World Character Transfer...

[DogMania]

Well Im sorry but offering a heroic 25% xp boost on live at the same time as this event is more important to me for mt TR's so I regret I will not be attending

[Saaluta]

In my opinion testing is about helping improve the game and about a cooperative attitude towards that goal. I'm sure the development team has more important things to do than spend their time dealing with unnecessary drama about this.

I'd much rather see a mechanism to allow transfers from live via overwrite or some other mechanism than have a wipe. I really don't want to go through yet another XP event and regearing, etc.

More important than my own petty little desires, its essential to test all aspects of the leveling/building experience as it exercises very important parts of the game - enhancements, lowbie quests, new items, etc..etc.. Without such testing, DDO would be in very big trouble.

Say, can those who want to transfer their toons from live but already have them here on Lamma buy a rename token in the Lamma store and rename, then copy their toon over from live?



The other obvious reason for a wipe is that xp/loot events are a brutally narrow window that not everyone can make. Its ludicrous to only grace XP to those few that can by chance happen to be ingame at the same time as the devs. Why limit us this way? Either do a wipe, or give all comers regardless of preferred play time the same XP. Put an XP fountain next to the quest givers or something. Oh yeah, and maybe fix the ingame bug reporting tool?

edit: actually, here's a thought I'm sure has been mentioned before: Fix it so character wipe is optional, up to the player. I can go to the character copy page and pick which lamma toon I'd like to wipe, then when he's wiped I can copy my current character. Can't be much different code-wise than the existing World Character Transfer...

I would love to see either of these options go into place so I could play on one of my fully geared characters from live or be able to multi-tr a new lama character before the lama dev events.

Saal :)

[Terebinthia]

I would love an xp fountain, and a loot fountain. The last time I was in game the same time as te devs I was in the middle of playtesting. i would love the option to pick up xp in the same way as tp, seriously.

[Mubjon]

Well I tried to join both days, but it stays with the connecting blinking and that is it. Getting tired of uninstalling and re-installing to even attempt to connect to the server anytime I want to actually test the new content out.

[Seljuck]

Well I tried to join both days, but it stays with the connecting blinking and that is it. Getting tired of uninstalling and re-installing to even attempt to connect to the server anytime I want to actually test the new content out.

I had same problem, but I found that If u run Live client, let game connect but dont type in password and just close launcher u should be able to connect in lamannia client. At least that solution works for me.

[Mubjon]

I had same problem, but I found that If u run Live client, let game connect but dont type in password and just close launcher u should be able to connect in lamannia client. At least that solution works for me.

Thanks, still a lot to go through just to be able to test.

[My2Cents]

Try this: next time you try to connect on Lamma and it doesn't connect within a few seconds (I'd allow 10 to be fair), just close the client and reopen and try again. It almost always works for me on the second time..I think one time it took 3...

But it's fast enough to only be a minor annoyance...

[shadereaper33]

Testing on Lammania is about testing the new content. It's not about playing with the new toys on your toons, so I fail to see why you need that exact version of your toon to run the quests.

I don't know about you, but if I am going to test new content, I would like to test it on relevant characters that have actually experienced the game, and the changes that have been made, over the last six months. My last transfer of characters was during the closed beta, or shortly after the open beta, it has been so long I don't even remember exactly when it was. Which means that I don't know the state of my characters, nor do I know the state of their gear. I can, however, say that they are not geared at all for level 23+ content, as 23+ content didn't exist the last time I transferred them over. They also don't have any progress into any epic destinies. This all together means that my feedback, if provided, would be inaccurate and largely useless. Thus, I will not be even attempting to log into lamma until a server wipe occurs, so that I would then be able to provide relevant, accurate, and useful feedback on the new content.

[Fefnir_2011]

Despite what you might read on the forums, you can play the game on a less than optimized-down-to-the-atomic-level character. Player skill > build > gear. I can tell you this is true because even on a naked level 16 Lords of Dust was too easy on Lam. Likewise, Servants of the Overlord was a decent step up and challenging for the unprepared, while Spinner of Shadows fell somewhere in between. You don't need anything other than a toon to play that's of a class you're familiar with to test content.


I don't know about you, but if I am going to test new content, I would like to test it on relevant characters that have actually experienced the game, and the changes that have been made, over the last six months. My last transfer of characters was during the closed beta, or shortly after the open beta, it has been so long I don't even remember exactly when it was. Which means that I don't know the state of my characters, nor do I know the state of their gear. I can, however, say that they are not geared at all for level 23+ content, as 23+ content didn't exist the last time I transferred them over. They also don't have any progress into any epic destinies. This all together means that my feedback, if provided, would be inaccurate and largely useless. Thus, I will not be even attempting to log into lamma until a server wipe occurs, so that I would then be able to provide relevant, accurate, and useful feedback on the new content.

[mystafyi]

This all together means that my feedback, if provided, would be inaccurate and largely useless. Thus, I will not be even attempting to log into lamma until a server wipe occurs, so that I would then be able to provide relevant, accurate, and useful feedback on the new content.


you mistakenly are thinking they want your feedback... they only want ooh's amd aah's from casual players now.

[oberon131313]

you mistakenly are thinking they want your feedback... they only want ooh's amd aah's from casual players now.

Empirical evidence (the fact that you can still post) suggests otherwise...

[mystafyi]

Empirical evidence (the fact that you can still post) suggests otherwise...

yanno, Yesterday I was wondering how the heck I havent been banned yet. But being able to post has nothing to do with bug reporting, testing and anything to do with turbine putting out bad quality.

I think they just dont care about ddo anymore. milk till the cow dies and move to new projects.

[BOgre]

fact that they've expanded leadership team says different.

[mystafyi]

fact that they've expanded leadership team says different.

turbine has 3 games running atm: ac, lotro and ddo. in addition, they are working on new project/s. Dont be so naive to think any new hires are for ddo.

[oberon131313]

Dont be so naive to think any new hires are for ddo.

Except, you know, the Dev that started this thread....

[AlexMonk]

myst has a point. Look at the dev tracker for Lama. No posts since the 18 by any dev, and Squeak has only made announcments not commented on any thead. Please bring back Kookie, at least he paid attention.

Just checked the live Dev Tracker. No post of substance since the 15th. So muhc for your extra team members.

[oberon131313]

myst has a point. Look at the dev tracker for Lama. No posts since the 18 by any dev, and Squeak has only made announcments not commented on any thead. Please bring back Kookie, at least he paid attention.

Just checked the live Dev Tracker. No post of substance since the 15th. So muhc for your extra team members.

They aren't required to post anything. The "silence" to me means everyone is "heads down" and working towards some probably nasty deadlines.

[SqueakofDoom]

myst has a point. Look at the dev tracker for Lama. No posts since the 18 by any dev, and Squeak has only made announcments not commented on any thead. Please bring back Kookie, at least he paid attention.

Just checked the live Dev Tracker. No post of substance since the 15th. So muhc for your extra team members.

As I acclimate to my position as Lamannia Coordinator, I have been spending much of my time investigating issues posted in the forums. However, I will do my best to better communicate my findings. After all, you should know that the problems are being dealt with!

[nivarch]

As I acclimate to my position as Lamannia Coordinator, I have been spending much of my time investigating issues posted in the forums. However, I will do my best to better communicate my findings. After all, you should know that the problems are being dealt with!

Kinda derailing the thread, but since you're reading this... I'm really willing to help testing stuff on lamannia but currently I don't because (note I give some suggestions at the end) :

It is hard to have a correct character on the server, character copy works poorly, leveling events are not at adequate hours for european players, and anyway loot is not readily accessible so even if I can access a leveling event I'll have poor gear. Why not add a level 25 veteran system for lamannia ? The tech seems to be in place, and it would work fine without having to rework the character copy tool. I'm sure players would be willing to help you create gearsets for every class.
The content tends to be very buggy, and quests are often not completable. The whole goal of lamannia being to find bugs, that's supposed to be ok, but it's still frustrating to be stucked on a quest. The best way for this would be to quickly communicate on known blocking bugs, and workaround if possible.
There is strictly no incentive to run lamannia . I don't ask big rewards, but even things such as forum titles, exclusive cosmetic items, guaranteed small amount of DDO point, early pre access (2 or 3 hours before others on live) would be nice to have.

[lucreciacrescent]

Kinda derailing the thread, but since you're reading this... I'm really willing to help testing stuff on lamannia but currently I don't because (note I give some suggestions at the end) :

It is hard to have a correct character on the server, character copy works poorly, leveling events are not at adequate hours for european players, and anyway loot is not readily accessible so even if I can access a leveling event I'll have poor gear. Why not add a level 25 veteran system for lamannia ? The tech seems to be in place, and it would work fine without having to rework the character copy tool. I'm sure players would be willing to help you create gearsets for every class.
The content tends to be very buggy, and quests are often not completable. The whole goal of lamannia being to find bugs, that's supposed to be ok, but it's still frustrating to be stucked on a quest. The best way for this would be to quickly communicate on known blocking bugs, and workaround if possible.
There is strictly no incentive to run lamannia . I don't ask big rewards, but even things such as forum titles, exclusive cosmetic items, guaranteed small amount of DDO point, early pre access (2 or 3 hours before others on live) would be nice to have.


yep, true. having an ungeared level 25 toon is pretty much useless, a lot of quests have tons of bugs, and yeah, very little incentive is given to players who wish to test servers for you guys.

[Olath_Senger]

It is hard to have a correct character on the server, character copy works poorly, leveling events are not at adequate hours for european players, and anyway loot is not readily accessible so even if I can access a leveling event I'll have poor gear. Why not add a level 25 veteran system for lamannia ? The tech seems to be in place, and it would work fine without having to rework the character copy tool. I'm sure players would be willing to help you create gearsets for every class.


I actually really like this idea and I believe it's very possible to do. I had suggested (and I'm certain it has been suggested before) that there should be an experience giver similar to the TP giver, but a level 25 veteran status-like deal seems like a much better idea. And yes, there's definitely people out there willing to help with given level 25 characters good gearsets.

[QuantumFX]

As I acclimate to my position as Lamannia Coordinator, I have been spending much of my time investigating issues posted in the forums. However, I will do my best to better communicate my findings. After all, you should know that the problems are being dealt with!

You still haven’t chosen your “SOON™” variant. The playerbase needs this important term to describe “Stuff that is on the Lammania server.”


SoDoon™
SOONofDoom™
SqueakofSOON™
SonofTHOON™

[AlexMonk]

Squeak I appologize. I was responding to a snarky post made to another perosn. It was not my intent to insult you or imply you were not doing your job. I have been a loyal VIP player for many years, and have been (mostly) very happy with the devs work. Again I'm very sorry. Welcome to DDO.

[Buttkierownsmade]

Squeak I appologize. I was responding to a snarky post made to another perosn. It was not my intent to insult you or imply you were not doing your job. I have been a loyal VIP player for many years, and have been (mostly) very happy with the devs work. Again I'm very sorry. Welcome to DDO.

You are Anouncing that you didn't do something makes people look at you, and you look all suspicious...

[49dae13]

I was just wondering what happened to Epps the kobald did you give up on him ? He was a great idea and I dont understand why you didnt finish his development. Seems like you would get alot more people trying the new content if they could lvl up a toon on there own time schedule. Also would be nice if you kept the AH stocked with decent gear. Or at least make the drop rate for epic gear 100%.

[Sylvurdragon]

Kinda derailing the thread, but since you're reading this... I'm really willing to help testing stuff on lamannia but currently I don't because (note I give some suggestions at the end) :

It is hard to have a correct character on the server, character copy works poorly, leveling events are not at adequate hours for european players, and anyway loot is not readily accessible so even if I can access a leveling event I'll have poor gear. Why not add a level 25 veteran system for lamannia ? The tech seems to be in place, and it would work fine without having to rework the character copy tool. I'm sure players would be willing to help you create gearsets for every class.
The content tends to be very buggy, and quests are often not completable. The whole goal of lamannia being to find bugs, that's supposed to be ok, but it's still frustrating to be stucked on a quest. The best way for this would be to quickly communicate on known blocking bugs, and workaround if possible.
There is strictly no incentive to run lamannia . I don't ask big rewards, but even things such as forum titles, exclusive cosmetic items, guaranteed small amount of DDO point, early pre access (2 or 3 hours before others on live) would be nice to have.



I agree completely. I have Llamania installed on my computer but I find it's just collecting dust as there's no point to getting on it. The adventure area that i really wanted to check out is 23+, however my character on lamannia is only level 20. I have a level 23 on live that I want to port over to try out some of the new stuff and help with bugs (since I'm pretty active on the bug reporting tool) but since I can't copy it over, and I am never around when the XP events are going on, there's no point.

I think it's time, especially after 2 high level updates, to wipe the servers and allow players to re-copy characters.. I don't rant much, but seriously - how do you expect things to be tested adequately when players are forced to play their "gimped" toons (for lack of a better term).

[SqueakofDoom]

I agree that certain processes on Lamannia need to change. I definitely appreciate your suggestions, and I will take them into consideration. However, (start speech regarding changes) changes will not happen overnight, so I ask for your patience. We have to first consider consequences for any changes that we make. Unfortunately, deviating too much from the experience on Live creates a discrepancy that could lead to bugs not being found. (end speech)

As for general Lamannia maintenance: I will do my best to keep the AH stocked, and I’ll tell you about known bugs and workarouds.

And AlexMonk, if I couldn’t handle snarky comments, they wouldn’t have given me this responsibility! :D

Also, I rather like SonofTHOON™

[Buttkierownsmade]

Squeakofdoom I have a suggestion for lvling here... you all should Scale the dungeons XP to like 10 ,000% so we can atleast quest our way up to 25 in under a day... not even need the xp bot either... :p

[whiteline]

if a wipe is needed I will start again this is still a game and to find bugs is fun

[Mage4Ronnie]

I'm not sure I understand some of the complaints about gear I've read here...I checked out the AH after the last leveling event and its packed with level 25 gear. Is the problem that they don't have any gear for lower level characters? That did seem to be the case. I could not find anything for level 20 characters.

[lucreciacrescent]

I'm not sure I understand some of the complaints about gear I've read here...I checked out the AH after the last leveling event and its packed with level 25 gear. Is the problem that they don't have any gear for lower level characters? That did seem to be the case. I could not find anything for level 20 characters.

well along with the devs putting random loots in the AH, there comes an xp event for players to benefit from

[49dae13]

I'm not sure I understand some of the complaints about gear I've read here...I checked out the AH after the last leveling event and its packed with level 25 gear. Is the problem that they don't have any gear for lower level characters? That did seem to be the case. I could not find anything for level 20 characters.

Sorry but some of us cant be on at the times they have lvling events and if you check the AH the day after it is empty

Edit: When is next leveling event planned ?

[SqueakofDoom]

The Next Event will probably be next week (I'll keep you updated). I understand many people will want to participate in Mabar, so I don't want to interfere with that.

As for loot in the AH. I will be filling the AH tonight. I'll make this batch lvl 20

[Cetus]

The Next Event will probably be next week (I'll keep you updated). I understand many people will want to participate in Mabar, so I don't want to interfere with that.

As for loot in the AH. I will be filling the AH tonight. I'll make this batch lvl 20

Don't worry, I doubt you'll interfere with our participation in mediocrity with a choice to participate in more mediocrity.

That might've been harsh - but no character wipe coupled with 4 mostly lackluster items to entice us into an event doesn't create a very competitive environment.

[49dae13]

Don't worry, I doubt you'll interfere with our participation in mediocrity with a choice to participate in more mediocrity.

That might've been harsh - but no character wipe coupled with 4 mostly lackluster items to entice us into an event doesn't create a very competitive environment.

Frankly I am glad that there has been no character wipe Yes I only got 2 of my 5 toons to copy but have since created 16 more toons and would hate to see that work just go down the tube I try to run every class through the quest to see how the differant spells will work or not work to see if one class has more problems than another and have found in some cases they do. But as for having uber gear like i do on the live servers i have found that i can make it through the quest with just decent gear. If you HAVE to have uber gear then i would suggest that you have a problem with your build or your just not a good enough player to make it through the quest.

Oh and SqueakofDoom thank-you for the info will look forward to next week maybe will be a time i can actually join into lvl'n event. Also welcome to the team.:)

[stonealot]

Frankly I am glad that there has been no character wipe Yes I only got 2 of my 5 toons to copy but have since created 16 more toons and would hate to see that work just go down the tube I try to run every class through the quest to see how the differant spells will work or not work to see if one class has more problems than another and have found in some cases they do. But as for having uber gear like i do on the live servers i have found that i can make it through the quest with just decent gear. If you HAVE to have uber gear then i would suggest that you have a problem with your build or your just not a good enough player to make it through the quest.

Oh and SqueakofDoom thank-you for the info will look forward to next week maybe will be a time i can actually join into lvl'n event. Also welcome to the team.:)

I agree

[Buttkierownsmade]

Hey, i have a question for you Squeak, When will we be gettin another leveling event soon?

[49dae13]

The Next Event will probably be next week (I'll keep you updated). I understand many people will want to participate in Mabar, so I don't want to interfere with that.

As for loot in the AH. I will be filling the AH tonight. I'll make this batch lvl 20

here ya go

[Cetus]

Frankly I am glad that there has been no character wipe Yes I only got 2 of my 5 toons to copy but have since created 16 more toons and would hate to see that work just go down the tube I try to run every class through the quest to see how the differant spells will work or not work to see if one class has more problems than another and have found in some cases they do. But as for having uber gear like i do on the live servers i have found that i can make it through the quest with just decent gear. If you HAVE to have uber gear then i would suggest that you have a problem with your build or your just not a good enough player to make it through the quest.

Oh and SqueakofDoom thank-you for the info will look forward to next week maybe will be a time i can actually join into lvl'n event. Also welcome to the team.:)

Whats your reasoning around a failed cahracter copy?

[49dae13]

Whats your reasoning around a failed cahracter copy?

Me I am unsure of why character copy does not work right, but I learned along time ago to just make the best with what you do have. Yes it took alot more time and alot of grinding but I got there. Just hate to see that work go to waste because someone else wont put the effort into it. Rather just complains for a character wipe so that in all probability will mean that they still won't be able to copy the characters they want.

[irnimnode]

Me I am unsure of why character copy does not work right, but I learned along time ago to just make the best with what you do have. Yes it took alot more time and alot of grinding but I got there. Just hate to see that work go to waste because someone else wont put the effort into it. Rather just complains for a character wipe so that in all probability will mean that they still won't be able to copy the characters they want.

Now here is a person that makes sense. A MMO game is about adapte and overcome not whine and cry about your character being unplayable and demanding a wipe. Show some creative abaility and find a way to make that character playable

[Seikojin]

The Next Event will probably be next week (I'll keep you updated). I understand many people will want to participate in Mabar, so I don't want to interfere with that.

As for loot in the AH. I will be filling the AH tonight. I'll make this batch lvl 20

I am sure with mabar borken like it is, many people at work will be busy.

I understand xp boosting making it hard to gauge new quest rewards, but I hope that it could be done so people can get new toons to playable levels for the content. Or some levelling NPC or item for Lam in the points store.

[Buttkierownsmade]

Hey y'all, Remember when the artificer class came out on lama and they SCALED the dungeons to 1,000% xp?? and we could quest to get lvled? how about you devs do this again! it was fun!!

[Cetus]

Me I am unsure of why character copy does not work right, but I learned along time ago to just make the best with what you do have. Yes it took alot more time and alot of grinding but I got there. Just hate to see that work go to waste because someone else wont put the effort into it. Rather just complains for a character wipe so that in all probability will mean that they still won't be able to copy the characters they want.

Make the best of nothing? On a server where progress is meaningless?

Lol, all of this "work" you put into your lamannia characters is useless. The servers population is rediculously low, and goes on and off at the devs discretion. Why won't you put all of this work on the live servers where it actually counts?

If the devs can't even successfully get me to copy my character over, then the chance that I will work for free is zilch.

I expect to not only play my main characters that exist on live, but I also expect to have all my toys as well. Otherwise, I'm not even remotely interested.

I'm not gonna make the best with what I have when I'm play testing for THEM to release a better, less screwed up product, I'll just remain on live.

[49dae13]

Make the best of nothing? On a server where progress is meaningless?

Lol, all of this "work" you put into your lamannia characters is useless. The servers population is rediculously low, and goes on and off at the devs discretion. Why won't you put all of this work on the live servers where it actually counts?

If the devs can't even successfully get me to copy my character over, then the chance that I will work for free is zilch.

I expect to not only play my main characters that exist on live, but I also expect to have all my toys as well. Otherwise, I'm not even remotely interested.

I'm not gonna make the best with what I have when I'm play testing for THEM to release a better, less screwed up product, I'll just remain on live.

Well i can say to you is to each his own one mans trash is anothers treasure. But there is a big differance between you and I, I am not just play testing for them ,but for myself also. I use this oppritunity to test out builds , especially on my tr's I've made some bad choices on builds when i tr'd and had to suffer through that life to tr again as i'm sure alot of people have. So by testing it here i dont have to suffer through it just delete and start over. I enjoy playin the new content before it comes out live. Also i just enjoy having fun I mean thats what the game is all about right ?

If I were a developer frankly I wouldnt care if you tested or not. From your attitude you probably dont check to see if the bug your reporting is already a known issue and would cost me more time than worth.

And for the rest of you and the developers I am sry that this has gotten off the topic of lvl'n events. And in the future will send my comments directly to the person invovled unless related to topic at hand.

[stonealot]

Make the best of nothing? On a server where progress is meaningless?

Lol, all of this "work" you put into your lamannia characters is useless. The servers population is rediculously low, and goes on and off at the devs discretion. Why won't you put all of this work on the live servers where it actually counts?

If the devs can't even successfully get me to copy my character over, then the chance that I will work for free is zilch.

I expect to not only play my main characters that exist on live, but I also expect to have all my toys as well. Otherwise, I'm not even remotely interested.

I'm not gonna make the best with what I have when I'm play testing for THEM to release a better, less screwed up product, I'll just remain on live.

Lol sounds like a spoiled child whinning cause he didnt get his way.

And to 49dae13 its nice to see that mature adults play this game.

[Buttkierownsmade]

Hey y'all, Remember when the artificer class came out on lama and they SCALED the dungeons to 1,000% xp?? and we could quest to get lvled? how about you devs do this again! it was fun!!

DEVS I wanna See this happen Please!!

[lucreciacrescent]

DEVS I wanna See this happen Please!!

this will probably make sense since we're just going to test out the bugs inside the quests and not level up manually :P lol

[mystafyi]

If I were a developer frankly I wouldnt care if you tested or not. From your attitude you probably dont check to see if the bug your reporting is already a known issue and would cost me more time than worth.

you are exactly the type of player turbine wants. The type that accepts and encourages mediocrity and poor quality.

[TazMan098]

Hey Squeak or Kookie, next event can we get some actual raid loot this time, getting sick of seeing only cheap random loot in the AH and half the time all the good stuff is taken before I finish lvling my chars. Just want a change from random stuff and most of my geared chars can't be coppied over atm.

[lucreciacrescent]

Hey Squeak or Kookie, next event can we get some actual raid loot this time, getting sick of seeing only cheap random loot in the AH and half the time all the good stuff is taken before I finish lvling my chars. Just want a change from random stuff and most of my geared chars can't be coppied over atm.

i agree to this one too

[49dae13]

you are exactly the type of player turbine wants. The type that accepts and encourages mediocrity and poor quality.

Just the kind of sentiment i would expect from someone with 19 post in last 10 days all belittling ddo and its developers and players and if mediocrity is understanding that Dev's should be working on bugs and not going through 100's of bug reports on a known issue means that I encourage it then i guess i do but as far as excepting poor quality thats why Im here playing with toons that arent set up the way i would like them to be. Seems to me the ones accepting poor quality are the ones that complain because they cant get the toons they want and so will not even try to help fix the game

But again back to subject come on Devs if you want this new update tested you should offer more lvl'n events or place an npc that can lvl you or at least raise the xp bonus so that we can lvl our toons Yes i do have 3 toons now that can and have run the new update lvl's 25-22-20 and even the lvl 20 can run them on epic hard with lvl 16-20 gear from the AH. But as stated before I like to run all classes through it so have 10 other toons that need to be lvl'd

[lucreciacrescent]

yeah just add another NPC beside sir poincelot maybe where we can get exp from so that we won't have to wait for lvling events no more :D oh yeah and can the next drop event be all epic loots? may it be shards, seals, or scrolls, or even the whole epic item itself.. that would be nice :)

[Buttkierownsmade]

Hey Squeak, when exactly is that event suposed to happen ??

[mystafyi]

Just the kind of sentiment i would expect from someone with 19 post in last 10 days all belittling ddo and its developers and players and if mediocrity is understanding that Dev's should be working on bugs and not going through 100's of bug reports on a known issue means that I encourage it then i guess i do but as far as excepting poor quality thats why Im here playing with toons that arent set up the way i would like them to be. Seems to me the ones accepting poor quality are the ones that complain because they cant get the toons they want and so will not even try to help fix the game

I wouldnt complain if I didnt care about the game and the community. Perhaps I have been too critical and at times mean, but that is a direct result of seeing this game get worse.

When there is no complaining, you better be worried.

[lucreciacrescent]

Hey Squeak, when exactly is that event suposed to happen ??

squeak said that sometime this week, hope it's really soon though. hoping for an exp NPC rather than an exp event

[Krelar]

squeak said that sometime this week, hope it's really soon though. hoping for an exp NPC rather than an exp event

Depending on how bad the hurricane ends up being I could see this getting pushed back to next week.

[lucreciacrescent]

Depending on how bad the hurricane ends up being I could see this getting pushed back to next week.

actually one of the reasons why i want it to be earlier, either earlier or moved next week :\ either way

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=396563
wasn't sure if the devs would be reading it from the General Discussion Forum so I might as well add it here

[Lord_Darquain]

The Next Event will probably be next week (I'll keep you updated). I understand many people will want to participate in Mabar, so I don't want to interfere with that.

As for loot in the AH. I will be filling the AH tonight. I'll make this batch lvl 20

Sooooo, if we hit November without the Mabar Fesitval launching can we get a leveling event this weekend?

[Seikojin]

They could do like UO; make the first X amount of time being logged into Lam be a boosted exp time. So the first 2 hours you could get 1000% exp.

[Thud]

I would reinstall Lamina if there was a char wipe. But, don't see the reason to do so since I have been doing a lot of work learning how the ED's work together. Now, if I go on Lam, I have to spend 3 months getting my ED's back up to where I'm testing live? Sorry, but I'm having a lot more fun learning how to exploit live bugs... I would be interested in testing Lam and reporting bugs, if I was testing with something familiar, unfortunately I have no clue what those toons have except NO ED levels.

[lucreciacrescent]

so can at least someone provide us with an event over at lama? xD a lot of people are finally tuned in

[49dae13]

I would reinstall Lamina if there was a char wipe. But, don't see the reason to do so since I have been doing a lot of work learning how the ED's work together. Now, if I go on Lam, I have to spend 3 months getting my ED's back up to where I'm testing live? Sorry, but I'm having a lot more fun learning how to exploit live bugs... I would be interested in testing Lam and reporting bugs, if I was testing with something familiar, unfortunately I have no clue what those toons have except NO ED levels.

3 months ? I got 4 ED lvl's on 3 differant toons (that were created on Lamannia) over the weekend just running the new update.

But now am back to playin on live server till next lvl'n event still have 10 more toons that I want to run through there (since I like to test with all classes) but there lvl is not high enough yet.

Squeak, when is next lvl'n event ??????? You said maybe this week, but still no word. :( You said you didnt want to interfere with Mabar, but still no Mabar.

Edit: Oops just logged on live and saw Mabar is up, my bad. Sorry Squeak.

[Cetus]

Lol sounds like a spoiled child whinning cause he didnt get his way.

And to 49dae13 its nice to see that mature adults play this game.

Congrats on your second post!