Sigh...bards take it once again

[ZeebaNeighba]

Spellsong vigor doesn't stack with druid vigor. Basically it's just like the virtuoso's HP regen song, where it's cast and then the spellsong vigor is gone forever. I wouldn't be surprised if virtuoso's HP regen and druid vigor didn't stack, but I don't know for sure. I'd appreciate it if someone could test it and bug report it if appropriate.

So spellsingers, avoid your fellow druids, and druids, know this when there's a spellsinger around. And bug report it. Bards are getting pretty ****ed over here, Inspire Excellence has to get nerfed as a cost of convenience, and we've had several bugs that have been around for years and never got fixed. I think only monks (maybe druids I haven't tried them, but they were just released) are more bugged because bard bugs just never get fixed.

[ShadowFlash]

From what I've seen, opinions aside, fatesinger seems to be the most polished bug-free ED, but I love a good bard rant, so I'll give ya a free bump :p

I like the 8 bard virtuoso split atm, all the enthrall goodness, along with hajeplacement and essentially greater heroism (-2 skills) via song...none of the bardly duties to worry about :D and no bard icon.

ShadowFlash

[ZeebaNeighba]

From what I've seen, opinions aside, fatesinger seems to be the most polished bug-free ED, but I love a good bard rant, so I'll give ya a free bump :p

I like the 8 bard virtuoso split atm, all the enthrall goodness, along with hajeplacement and essentially greater heroism (-2 skills) via song...none of the bardly duties to worry about :D and no bard icon.

ShadowFlashWell, aside from fatesinger not exactly the same as bard, there is the link to the thread in my sig :p in Breca's quote, as he comes up with an excuse for making many of the fatesinger buffs stop affecting the rest of the party while not changing the description...but I guess it's ok besides that thing there. I don't really think bard is the best class for fatesinger, since a lot of it is kind of redundant...ironically, the main advantage that bards have is easily twisting in stuff from fatesinger. But that's a different rant, I guess. If you think about it, most destinies don't have any noticeable advantage on the class they represent, they are just specced for the same role as the usual for that class.

[Ew_vastano]

dont worry my bard has just been tred into a fvs

[fco-karatekid]

Well, aside from fatesinger not exactly the same as bard, there is the link to the thread in my sig :p in Breca's quote, as he comes up with an excuse for making many of the fatesinger buffs stop affecting the rest of the party while not changing the description...but I guess it's ok besides that thing there. I don't really think bard is the best class for fatesinger, since a lot of it is kind of redundant...ironically, the main advantage that bards have is easily twisting in stuff from fatesinger. But that's a different rant, I guess. If you think about it, most destinies don't have any noticeable advantage on the class they represent, they are just specced for the same role as the usual for that class.

Yah, first 6 points for my Tempest Ranger have been from Magister (Unearthly Reactions and Impregnable Mind), and I have some targets in Draconic I will be after in the future. After aboutthe first half hour reading these, I realized that many actually synergize best with classes that they DON'T represent.