Does Fernando know about the Enhancement overhaul or is it not on this years schedule

[Trasak]

This is a fairly simple question that is getting asked repeatedly: When are we going to see the Enhancement changes namely the Prestige Classes? Fernando is understandably a producer and not a programer, tester or game designer so it is possible he is out of the loop on how important the enhancement update is and is just lumping it in with "known bug list". By not mentioning that we will be seeing the enhancement update this year the rumor mill is grinding away that the needed update is being pushed back further behind new pay to play content.

I wont making any silly claim that I am quitting until prestige classes are updated or calling for a boycott of turbine points or spending points on new content until they are released but I am personally concerned by the lack of stated priority table. Hard dates are at best ill advised from a programer perspective but project priority can help putting consumers minds at ease. Could we please get a U# for the enhancement update, preferably U16 even if the current content for U16 would need to become U17 to have enough man hours for testing and coding.

Thanks,
A nerd who wants his fix for munchkining DDO characters.

[Ertay]

The question itself pretty much nails it. We all know Fernando is totally disconnected with the actual game, so that he doesn't mention it could be just because he doesn't know. That being said, I don't expect it to go as planned either way.

Oh, and I would be seriously ****ed to find out they charge extra $ for new epic destinies (which are basically meant to be used with paid classes already...). Then again, I'm having a blast with gw2 so far, which has cost me roughly 1/4th of what I've paid for ddo.

[karsion]

Oh, and I would be seriously ****ed to find out they charge extra $ for new epic destinies (which are basically meant to be used with paid classes already...). Then again, I'm having a blast with gw2 so far, which has cost me roughly 1/4th of what I've paid for ddo.

So in a couple of weeks(?) you spent one fourth of what you have spent on DDO in three years? Nice ;)

[dejafu]

My guess: since it wasn't mentioned in the letter for either this year or next, and there haven't been any dev comments confirming or denying its release in u16...

...They're HOPING it will be done for u16, but it's either still on the backburner in favor of fixing Epic Destinies or they've got an almost-complete version that's very, very buggy. Given the snafu lately, I imagine they'll opt to delay the release of the system until it's (reasonably) working. But have no idea yet how long that'll take.

Dev silence usually seems to mean "we don't know."

[Systern]

Given that Fernando's quotes about the way-pre-alpha crafting system have been thrown in his face repeatedly, and the excitement over an Enhancement Update that was never given a firm release but told that it'd be pushed back, I'd say he's not going to give anything that remotely resembles a quotable fact, other than Festivult in Faerun.

[Juduss]

IIRC The enhancement overhaul was initially announced as to be part of the U14/xpac release, then pushed back to maybe U15, and subsequently placed in "someday" status. Even if it were announced as coming in updateX I would be highly skeptical at this point. While my hope is that this is do to "taking the time to get it right," lately that particular concern seems to be low on the totem pole. My personal suspicion is that as they can't charge a fee (can they!?) for the enhancement changes, it's been put off in favor of more lucrative developments - working or not.

[mystafyi]

Oh, and I would be seriously ****ed to find out they charge extra $ for new epic destinies

you will be upset then, the plan in turbines office is to charge for them.

[captain1z]

If I may be so bold as to add a player poll to this thread:

Do you think Fernando knows about the enhancement pass?

And

Do you believe he plays this game?

[Qhualor]

from the letter, all i read was

blah blah blah a lot has happened this summer blah blah blah released new content 8 weeks after the expansion

blah blah blah monster manual blah blah blah moving quickly and adding tons of content blah blah blah u16 8 weeks

later blah blah blah revisiting a classic story line in Eberron blah blah blah epic gianthold in 2013 blah blah bl... wait

a second, what was that!?

[captain1z]

If I may be so bold as to add a player poll to this thread:

Do you think Fernando knows about the enhancement pass?

And

Do you believe he plays this game?

- I think he was told and filed it away, thinking it a smaller addition than everyone else.
- current and previous posts about playing character xyz lead me to believe his great stable of characters is pure fiction. I do not believe he has the skills, time nor the desire to play ddo. Its just work for him.

[Siro]

Given that the enhancement pass doesn't add anything new and chargeable, I don't see why there'd be any marketing push for it.

[My2Cents]

It was a bi-yearly or yearly attempt to communicate a positive and enthusiastic vision of DDO from upper management to the DDO public and quite possibly the staff as well.

I'm not overly worried about disecting the exact wording or the specific accuracy of his letter.

I'm going back to playing DDO.

[Grosbeak07]

Given that the enhancement pass doesn't add anything new and chargeable, I don't see why there'd be any marketing push for it.

This.

The enhancement pass was/is already well known about. This was a marketing letter to announce what NEW stuff they have planned for the next 6 months or so.

The enhancement pass is delayed not new. Remember how long it took them to get Druids and Half-Orcs/Half-Elves...

[mystafyi]

This was a marketing letter

This.

+ enhancement update might not be important enough to make the short list in fernando's eyes.

Edit: Holy chit! I sorta defended fernando.

[Grosbeak07]

This.

+ enhancement update might not be important enough to make the short list in fernando's eyes.

Edit: Holy chit! I sorta defended fernando.

heh. :cool:

[skullzz]

It was mentioned by a Dev not sure post and restated by other players.

The enhancement pass will be U16 which will most likely be late October early November.




Given that the enhancement pass doesn't add anything new and chargeable, I don't see why there'd be any marketing push for it.

And this does add the possibility of new costumer which will make more money in the long run because the change will make the system, easier to understand and (hate to say it) like other RPG games out there.

[captain1z]

Given that the enhancement pass doesn't add anything new and chargeable, I don't see why there'd be any marketing push for it.

Assuming they dont reset everyones enhancements and say:

- free players get 1 tree
- premiums get 2 trees
- vips get 3 trees

Additional trees unlockable through the ddo store for 1450 tp.

[Trasak]

It was a bi-yearly or yearly attempt to communicate a positive and enthusiastic vision of DDO from upper management to the DDO public and quite possibly the staff as well.

I'm not overly worried about disecting the exact wording or the specific accuracy of his letter.

I'm going back to playing DDO.

I am guessing that Fernando's post was exactly that, an enthusiastic vision of DDO from upper management. It would be nice to hear from Tolero or if we are lucky Mad could give us an update but it might be out of their hands. This is that ugly point in Free To Play games where something that will take an extensive amount of resources but will not generate any direct revenue is strongly needed/desired. I would imagine that the development and QA teams would love to put plenty of time into this and their other pet projects but the managers of those departments are going to be responsible for delivering cost/benefit analysis and it is hard to prove revenue not lost vs new revenue generated.

[arkonas]

Assuming they dont reset everyones enhancements and say:

- free players get 1 tree
- premiums get 2 trees
- vips get 3 trees

Additional trees unlockable through the ddo store for 1450 tp.

i dont think their going to do that. they would mean all the multi classed non vip toons would be screwed

[vegabond1969]

i dont think their going to do that. they would mean all the multi classed non vip toons would be screwed

And that would matter to Turbine how? To them it is just a means to more revenue. You guys that are free 2 play aren't even considered during the meetings I'll wager. Just as a potential source of revenue...

[Chai]

i dont think their going to do that. they would mean all the multi classed non vip toons would be screwed

With the current amount of pay to win already in game, it wouldnt surprise me if something like that happened.

The door is pretty much open to build the game with arbitrary limits and then charge us to circumvent those limits. Three tree limit, purchase access to additional trees in the store. Its not too far fetched considering we have a 3 day raid limit for everyone who doesnt pay for the item that circumvents it.

[Raithe]

i dont think their going to do that. they would mean all the multi classed non vip toons would be screwed

You realize that Turbine defines what stats you need as well as get, right?

If Turbine reduced the number of trees to which I had access, I would then think that they were going to adjust content so that I didn't need access to multiple trees to be effective. Oh wait, they already did that... and they didn't even touch my enhancements and added epic destinies to boot.

With epic destinies and other game changes I currently need to scrap 90% of the enhancements on all of my characters. Things like Fighter's Armor Mastery II when I'm not even filling out the max dex bonus on my armor anymore (just an example). Taking bonuses to hit over bonuses to damage, etc and so forth. I haven't bothered because the enhancements just aren't making that big of a difference anymore.

My point? Two things:

1) I wouldn't be suprised if part of the enhancement pass includes unlockable trees obtainable through TP purchases, other methods, or both.

2) I probably won't be bothering to unlock anything that isn't trivially unlocked, and I couldn't care less if you think it gimps my characters. You most likely won't know what I have locked or unlocked.

[DnD3]

So in a couple of weeks(?) you spent one fourth of what you have spent on DDO in three years? Nice ;)

Um yes, not all of us pay 9.99 a month, some of us are smart and bought the packs when they where at a 50% discount and buy the rest when they go on sale or with TP ;).

And I would think him being knowlegable about the game and its future content helps him so I don't see how he would not know.

[azrael4h]

Lets try this again.

Last I heard, the announcement for the next delay of the enhancement pass was set for U16. So we should hear when the next delay announcement is soon.

PS Firefox for Androids suck.

[sdrocky]

epic gianthold in 2013

For real. YEEEAHHHHAAAAA

[LightBear]

from the letter, all i read was

blah blah blah a lot has happened this summer blah blah blah released new content 8 weeks after the expansion

blah blah blah monster manual blah blah blah moving quickly and adding tons of content blah blah blah u16 8 weeks

later blah blah blah revisiting a classic story line in Eberron blah blah blah epic gianthold in 2013 blah blah bl... wait

a second, what was that!?

Really... Epic Gianthold... Whooo ha!
Going to make a wish list for the epic versions of items from there. :)
(Here's to hoping they don't forget the quest items.)

I have to dig up that letter to read it myself.

[Daemoneyes]

Really... Epic Gianthold... Whooo ha!
Going to make a wish list for the epic versions of items from there. :)
(Here's to hoping they don't forget the quest items.)

I have to dig up that letter to read it myself.

yeah, more items i wont get cause the damned seals dont drop :(

[LightBear]

Given that the enhancement pass doesn't add anything new and chargeable, I don't see why there'd be any marketing push for it.

Then you don't know "Bull Dung" about marketing, have no grip on the term "New" and have no clue on how to run a department that's run on a budget.

If we, as customers, make a demand for it and we keep asking for it again and again then someone from marketing will pick this up and will make a push for it.

The thing is, imho, that the player feedback on the first release on the new enhancement system was a bit overwhelming for Turbine. So much overwhelming that they decided not to release it.

For me this means that some developers totally misinterpreted what should be build. (And yes I do know it is very hard to get things right and near impossible to get things right the first time around.)

What people wanted was that all prestige enhancements would have their 3th tier and all classes would get their missing prestige enhancements. Mainly because of the rings from ToD that have no real use for some prestige enhancements and because some of the classes only have one prestige enhancement and it's not much fun to play. (If only you could trade in your wrong ToD ring at some vendor for another at the right price.)

What people got was something that they felt was totally ruining their builds.

For me this means there is a HUGE gab between pre alpha and closed alpha. And an even bigger gab between closed alpha and closed/open beta.

[Ryiah]

Fernando is understandably a producer and not a programer, tester or game designer so it is possible he is out of the loop on how important the enhancement update is and is just lumping it in with "known bug list".

He's only out of the loop in the sense that he states things way ahead of time when they are up in the air as to whether it will work or not. I would sooner he not say something as then it would indicate that development may not be that far along.

[My2Cents]

For those who have not yet seen it, Fernando just added brief remarks about the enhancement pass...confirming it is in progress and will be coming but not giving a firm date until they feel its ready...

[Persiflage]

With apologies to the memory of Messrs Gilbert & Sullivan, and any Pirates of Penzance fans who may be lurking herein... [1]

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I am the very model of a Turbine top executive,
I head up the production team for game updates consecutive,
But I don't have the time to care when code we push is incomplete;
My eyes are firmly fixed upon the numbers on the balance sheet!
I can't permit developers to waste my money fixing flaws
When they should be devising ways to get the money that is yours!
(You see, I'm never pers'nally exposed to all the players' ire...
There's hardly any risk to me if they set Jerry's house on fire!)

I won't resource QA because they always seen to find the stuff
That means the game's delayed so my next bonus isn't big enough:
In short, I'll never listen to a single word that's negative
I am the very model of a Turbine top executive

Though many times I've been accused of anti-social reticence,
I've taken money-grabbing to the greatest heights of excellence;
Including many obstacles and difficulties arbitr'y
Which can be circumvented by Store items (for a modest fee)
I tantalise the players with a "soon-to-happen" epic brawl,
While knowing it will take a month of Sundays (if it comes at all)
And lyrically wax about the imminence of u-16...
While caring not a jot that stuff's as broken as it's ever been!

You say you pay my wages, but the longer you've been playing for
The less you tend to spend your hard-earned money in the Turbine store...
I need to keep the "stoners" spending cash: this is imperative!
I am the very model of a Turbine top executive

I've heard you can't climb ladders and your spells will often fail to cast,
I've heard that stunning mobs just gets them moving from you extra-fast,
I've heard reports that many folks have lost their Epic Destinies,
But I don't play this game so I won't let these matters get to me!
So long as we release on time I can't be held responsible
If people are unhappy (or indeed it doesn't work at all);
Each dollar spent on testing is just wasted when all's said and done...
(Oh, testers are fine folks but would you let your daughter marry one?)

And if you're still not happy then I'll tell you just what you should do:
Keep paying your subscriptions! (Yes we'll fix it all, I swear it's true!)
In short, we need your cash if we're to keep this game competitive,
I am the very model of a Turbine top executive!

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Views expressed are not necessarily my own; more a satirical collection of oft-expressed opinions in this, the "fix the Epic Destinies", and the "still broken" threads. Nothing personal here, and in the unlikely event that Fernando gets to hear of it, I hopes he takes it in good part. Still, I couldn't resist :D



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[1] I'm well aware that this tune is likely to be better-known in these parts as the basis for Tom Lehrer's "Elements Song" ;)

[TheGuyYouKnow]

they said they were going to finish all the prestieges along with changing how enhancements work so it will take a while to get evrything done properly and have it all balanced, i give it another 5 or 6 weeks

[FrancisP.Fancypants]

Epic Gianthold. How much will it break regular GH? Is it just a shiny distraction?

The important question: How much will the Reaver's disintegrate hit for on epic?

I'd really like to see the PREs first.

[Silverleafeon]

If I may be so bold as to add a player poll to this thread:

Do you think Fernando knows about the enhancement pass?

And

Do you believe he plays this game?
Yes he does.
To answer the first read here:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?&postid=4667973#post4667973
".....Yes we are also still working on updating our enhancement system. We're not ready to announce when it will be released - in the interest of keeping the system polished we'll be shipping it once we feel it is ready."

Yes he does.
To answer the second read here:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?&postid=4667510#post4667510
"....The biggest problem I’ve had is that now each time I play I need to decide between advancing my Druid and running around in bear form, advancing my second Destiny on my fighter / Legendary Dreadnought or helping my sorcerer get going as a Draconic Incarnation...."


But a ton more important to the enhancement update is these two posts:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?&postid=4623971#post4623971
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?&postid=4640393#post4640393

[Silverleafeon]

This is a fairly simple question that is getting asked repeatedly: When are we going to see the Enhancement changes namely the Prestige Classes? Fernando is understandably a producer and not a programer, tester or game designer so it is possible he is out of the loop on how important the enhancement update is and is just lumping it in with "known bug list". By not mentioning that we will be seeing the enhancement update this year the rumor mill is grinding away that the needed update is being pushed back further behind new pay to play content.

I wont making any silly claim that I am quitting until prestige classes are updated or calling for a boycott of turbine points or spending points on new content until they are released but I am personally concerned by the lack of stated priority table. Hard dates are at best ill advised from a programer perspective but project priority can help putting consumers minds at ease. Could we please get a U# for the enhancement update, preferably U16 even if the current content for U16 would need to become U17 to have enough man hours for testing and coding.

Thanks,
A nerd who wants his fix for munchkining DDO characters.

A ton of people have been running around yelling "The sky is falling" on the DDO boards about the bugs.

The people such as myself who are very glad the Epic levels were introduced with the bugs instead of waiting 6 months or a year or two years for it to come out bug free did not post tons of threads stating such.

[Trasak]

For those who have not yet seen it, Fernando just added brief remarks about the enhancement pass...confirming it is in progress and will be coming but not giving a firm date until they feel its ready...

I had not noticed Fernando updated the initial thread and props to him for taking the time to respond to the issue.

Silver, I had assumed that the Mournlands testers request was for the new druid quests and not the enhancement pass but . . . (insert any one of 3 or 4 phrases about assumptions).

[psteen1]

With apologies to the memory of Messrs Gilbert & Sullivan, and any Pirates of Penzance fans who may be lurking herein... [1]



i'm impressed!

[BurningDownTheHouse]

*One big giant AWESOME!!!*

My wife happens to be a part time G&S society performer and I heartily approve!!!

A well earned +1 to you sir!

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

from the letter, all i read was

blah blah blah a lot has happened this summer blah blah blah released new content 8 weeks after the expansion

blah blah blah monster manual blah blah blah moving quickly and adding tons of content blah blah blah u16 8 weeks

later blah blah blah revisiting a classic story line in Eberron blah blah blah epic gianthold in 2013 blah blah bl... wait

a second, what was that!?

All I read in these forums is this :

bla bla blabla nerf bla bla bla rant bla bla bla stop this !!!111!11!! bla bla bla

bla bla bla bla unnerf ! bla bla bla or else I ragequit bla bla hurts all players (but mostly me !) bla bla bla

bla bla in epic levels bla bla bla newbies ? haven't seen one in ages bla bla bla nerf bla bla bla rant bla bla ragequit bla

[vegabond1969]

With apologies to the memory of Messrs Gilbert & Sullivan, and any Pirates of Penzance fans who may be lurking herein... [1]

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Views expressed are not necessarily my own; more a satirical collection of oft-expressed opinions in this, the "fix the Epic Destinies", and the "still broken" threads. Nothing personal here, and in the unlikely event that Fernando gets to hear of it, I hopes he takes it in good part. Still, I couldn't resist :D



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[1] I'm well aware that this tune is likely to be better-known in these parts as the basis for Tom Lehrer's "Elements Song" ;)

Very nice lol. +1 on the effort.:D

[Juduss]

Perciflage, there isn't enough +1s available for the awesomeness you have graced us with. That amazing feet of creativity left me literally laughing out loud and nerdgasimming as I read & reread it. Wow.

[Juduss]

If we, as customers, make a demand for it and we keep asking for it again and again then someone from marketing will pick this up and will make a push for it.

With no statistical information to support my hypothesis, I suspect the ratio of player (customer) requests -quality ones ratified by multiple other players- that have been acted upon vs. gone unheeded may call this statement into question.

[GermanicusMaximus]

With the current amount of pay to win already in game, it wouldnt surprise me if something like that happened.

The door is pretty much open to build the game with arbitrary limits and then charge us to circumvent those limits. Three tree limit, purchase access to additional trees in the store. Its not too far fetched considering we have a 3 day raid limit for everyone who doesnt pay for the item that circumvents it.

Crikey, its a rare day when I agree with anything that Chai says, but today is that day.

I think its almost a given that the heroic enhancement update will have some revenue generation capability. Why? Epic Destinies, the epic enhancement system, is completely pay to play. That went down with hardly a whimper from the player base. The extension of that same model to heroic enhancements is the next logical step. Couple that with Turbine's recent obvious need to scramble for any revenue it can find, and you have your answer.

There may be some token heroic enhancement option that is completely free (just as there are free quests, classes, and races), but anything a serious player would want to have will be either

1) Free to VIP and a require a purchase from everyone else
2) Require a purchase from everyone

You may not like it, but this is the new DDO. Are you still anxiously awaiting the arrival of the enhancement update?

[DarkForte]

If they put enhancements in the store for VIPs to buy, it's going to be the metaphorical straw that breaks the camel's back.

[legendlore]

Asked about this in the Lets talk: enhancements thread a couple of weeks ago, this was the answer from Madfloyd;


Correct, enhancement modifications are not a premium feature.

So it seems the enhancement system in it self will be free for all, I'm guessing though that it will come with store items similar to the "destiny skip" and "tome of fate" to generate revenue.

[DeafeningWhisper]

Asked about this in the Lets talk: enhancements thread a couple of weeks ago, this was the answer from Madfloyd;



So it seems the enhancement system in it self will be free for all, I'm guessing though that it will come with store items similar to the "destiny skip" and "tome of fate" to generate revenue.

I don't see how it could be any other way, unlike destinies that was a new thing been added, enhancements were already available for free. It would have been a terrible move to make the new version p2p.

[legendlore]

I don't see how it could be any other way, unlike destinies that was a new thing been added, enhancements were already available for free. It would have been a terrible move to make the new version p2p.

True. I am worried though that they'll deliberately put in some form of arbitrary limiter in the system, just so it can be bypassed by the store.

It seems to be a trend of this lately with the locked destiny spheres and destiny keys in the store followed by the raid timer bypass.

While I'm more ok with this in a free system (compared to the destinies I bought and 'can' use if I pay up again) I hope that it will be fun and playable without store items.

My guess is that it's put on the back burner simply because they haven't found a good balance between profitable and playable yet.

[ThePrisoner]

It appeared from the statement that fixing bugs was going to be the number one priority, which is good because that is what is needed most right now. So it goes 1) bug fixes, then 2) new content. I would expect the new prestiges when the "known issues" list starts to look manageable.

Not sure you could put a timetable on that or that you would want to. Rushing content has probably worked for Turbine for the purposes of grabbing revenue before it goes to other MMORPGs instead, but it hasn't worked well for the players of DDO.

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

... Just wanted to express that I received equally the same number of neg rep & of pos rep for my "bla" entry. ;)

[Persiflage]

i'm impressed!


Very nice lol. +1 on the effort.:D


Perciflage, there isn't enough +1s available for the awesomeness you have graced us with. That amazing feet of creativity left me literally laughing out loud and nerdgasimming as I read & reread it. Wow.


My wife happens to be a part time G&S society performer and I heartily approve!!!

A well earned +1 to you sir!

Aw shucks, thanks everyone :)

Nergasmming, eh? I hope you read the disclaimer: the Management accepts no responsibility for undue laundry occasioned by the content of any post! :D

[Starp]

With apologies to the memory of Messrs Gilbert & Sullivan, and any Pirates of Penzance fans who may be lurking herein...
----snip
----/snip


Wow, just wow! +1 to you!:cool:

[Aelonwy]

With apologies to the memory of Messrs Gilbert & Sullivan, and any Pirates of Penzance fans who may be lurking herein...

+1
I laughed so hard I started crying and my infant is now looking at me like I'm a crazy woman.

[Persiflage]

+1
I laughed so hard I started crying and my infant is now looking at me like I'm a crazy woman.

Um... Far be it from me to cast aspersions, and I wouldn't be the one to suggest that your infant has a point or anything, but it might be worth pointing out at this juncture that your signature contains the words "Blood Scented Axe Body Spray".

I'm just sayin', is all :D

Seriously though, thanks folks!

[Ausdoerrt]

I don't see how it could be any other way, unlike destinies that was a new thing been added, enhancements were already available for free. It would have been a terrible move to make the new version p2p.

Well, with the direction the game is taking, I'm persuaded that the new enhancement system will have some significant revenue-generating method tied in. It probably won't be a "pay XXX TP for enhancements" kind of thing, but I expect any (or all) of the following: premium enhancement trees, tree limit bypass, and AP tomes.

I dare the devs to prove me wrong. I'm rarely wrong though :p

[Eladiun]

I can tell you with complete certainty he knows about it. How? At PAX East, I spoke to him about it directly during a conversation and demo of U14 with Glin and he. He told me at the time that they wanted to have ALL the PRE's completed for the enhancement pass and it would likely slip from U14 to U15 but waiting an extra couple months would be worth it to have all the PRE's done. He was very excited about it as well.

Now, I am far from a Turbine apologist but I assume the bugapalooza that was U14 bumped this out of U15.

[Deadlock]

With apologies to the memory of Messrs Gilbert & Sullivan, and any Pirates of Penzance fans who may be lurking herein... [1]

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You, sir, are a genius. Absolutely top drawer :) +1 in an instant :)
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[Sarnind]

Now ddo end game is a cake walk mode, not signed for revamp enchantmen , this game need a serious fun harder end game.

[Persiflage]

You, sir, are a genius. Absolutely top drawer :) +1 in an instant :)
http://www.strangesports.com/images/content/168659.gif

Is... is that a scene from The Golden Child?!? OMG, I thought I was the only person in the world who'd seen it!


"I waaa... I waaa... I waaaant the kniiiiiiiiife."

...

"Pleeeeeeeeease."

:D

[My2Cents]

Uncle Nuumpsey!


Is... is that a scene from The Golden Child?!? OMG, I thought I was the only person in the world who'd seen it!


"I waaa... I waaa... I waaaant the kniiiiiiiiife."

...

"Pleeeeeeeeease."

:D

[jandhaer]

wait... did someone say EPIC GIANTHOLD O.O

wanted Epic TOR since I started playing. please please please

[Persiflage]

Uncle Nuumpsey!

I officially now love this forum.