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DDOGoz
08-29-2012, 03:38 PM
I noticed both the GS weapon and TOD upgraded ring's exceptional +2 ability bonuses have been changed to insight bonuses. Why was this changed? And is there anymore exceptional +2 bonuses in game now?

djl
08-29-2012, 03:45 PM
I noticed both the GS weapon and TOD upgraded ring's exceptional +2 ability bonuses have been changed to insight bonuses. Why was this changed? And is there anymore exceptional +2 bonuses in game now?

This was changed with U14, I believe. They did that because they added Insightful +3 bonuses. Exceptional bonuses only exist in +1 form now; past that, they are insightful bonuses.

-Zephyr-
08-29-2012, 03:46 PM
This was changed to add the +3 insights. That way you upgrade your +2 into a +3, one point of ability increase, and frees slot (making yet another type and making it +1 wouldn't have brought that slot freeing part).
Keeping the "exceptional" would have made the +3 stack with the +2, giving too much an increase and not giving the free slot part.

That's the explanation given by a dev. It did cause a lot of stacking problems when it was done, most of which are fixed now, but not all. Power surge (Kensai 2) doesn't stack anymore with titan gloves' buff for exemple.

Arkat
08-29-2012, 04:07 PM
How about the Epic Bracers of the Claw? They used to have "Exceptional Constitution +2" on them. Is that still the case??

Shade
08-29-2012, 04:39 PM
It gets a lot worse then just stat bonuses.

There changed/removed ALL exceptional bonuses from the game as of U14. Pretty massive nerf no one ever asked for.

U14.2 they put back exceptional +1 stat bonuses. All others remain changed.

Most were changed to type "insight". This includes exceptional fortfication, sneak attack, resistances, and more.